John Savage KG KB (abt. 1444 - 1492)

Born about 1444 in Clifton, Cheshire, England [uncertain]

Ancestors

Husband of Dorothy (Vernon) Savage — married about 1470 in Clifton, Cheshire, England [uncertain]

Descendants

Died 18 Oct 1492 at about age 48 in Boulogne, France

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Biography

Sir John Savage was a member of the aristocracy in England.

John Savage was born in 1444, [est: he was 21 when knighted in 1465^[1]] in Clifton, Cheshire, England.

John was the oldest son of Sir John Savage, of Clifton, Cheshire, and his wife, Katherine Stanley, the daughter of Sir Thomas Stanley, Lord Stanley, and the sister of Thomas Stanley earl of Derby.^{[2] [3]}

Sir John Savage, junior, had brothers:

1. Thomas Savage, bishop of Rochester in 1492, bishop of London 1497, archbishop of York in 1501, died 1508 and buried at York with his heart buried at Maxfield, Cheshire;^{[2] [3]}
2. James;^{[2] [3]}
3. Lawrence;^{[2] [3]}
4. Edward^[3] or Sir Edmund Savage, knighted at Leith in Scotland in 1544 by the earl of Hertford, married Mary, the widow of Roger Legh del Ridge nigh Maxfield, and the daughter and heir of William Sparke of Surrey, 1538;^[2]
5. Sir Christopher Savage^[3] of Macclesfeld;^[2]
6. George;^[2]
7. William;^{[2] [3]}
8. Richard;^{[2] [3] [4]}
9. Sir Homfrey Savage;^{[2] [3]}
10. Ellen, who was married to Peter Legh of Lyme, Cheshire, licence to marry 1467 by Philip Sancti Laurentii in Lucina presbyter cardinalis,^[2] Elenor's husband Sir Piers Leigh was after her death a priest;^[3]
11. Katherine, who was married to Thomas Legh of Adlington, Cheshire,^[3] esq, licence to marry 1479 by John Giglis utriusque juris doctor, collector of the pope's rents in England.^[2]
12. Margaret, who was married to Edmund Trafford of Trafford, Lancahsire;^{[2] [3]}
13. Alice, who was married to Roger de Pilkington^[3] of Lancashire;^[2] and
14. Elizabeth, who was married to John, the son of William Leeke of Langford, Derbyshire;^{[2] [3]}
15. a daughter who was married to Sir Thomas Waterton;^[3]

John's wife's name is unknown. ^[5]

John and his wife had children:

1. John Savage, heir, married Anne, the sister of William^[4] and daughter and heir of Raufe Bostock,^[6] or Rafe Bostock of Bostock, esq;^[3]
2. Alice, who was married to sir William Brereton of Brereton, Cheshire,^[6] Lord Justice of Ireland;^[3]
3. Felicia, who was married to Robert Milward of Eaton in Derbyshire, esq;^[6]
4. Ellen, who was married to John Hawarden;^[6] and
5. Maud, who was married to sir Robert Nedham^[7] of Shenton in Shropshire,^[6] or Isabel who married — Needham of Shevington;^[3]
6. Anne who was married to — Hampden;^[3]

John also had an illegitimate son, George Savage, parson of Davenham, Cheshire,^[6] or parson of Dunham in Dunham. ^[8]

On 26 May 1465, John was made a Knight of the Bath by King Edward IV of England at the coronation of his wife, Queen Elizabeth, and on 16 November, 1488, Sir John was made a Knight of the Garter by King Henry VII of England.^[1]

Sir John Savage, the elder, had a Warrant dated at Shene, on 4 June, 7 Henry VII [1492], to be released from prison, where he'd been committed owing to the nonappearance in Court of his son Richard, who was supposed to have murdered Thomas Starkey, of Stratton, gentleman; Sir John Savage, the younger, was surety for Richard's appearance.^[4]

While reconnoitering during the siege of Boulogne, France, in October 1492, Sir John was intercepted and then killed when he refused to surrender.^[1] He predeceased his father,^[6] Sir John Savage senior who died, aged 73, on 22 November, 1495.^[2] This siege was at Boulogne-sur-Mer which is now in Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais not Boulogne-Billancourt, Hauts-de-Seine, Ile-de-France.^[9]

On 10 April, 11 Henry VII [1496], at Ludlow Castle, John Savage, Esq, had a Warrant to receive livery of lands, as son and heir of Sir John Savage, junior, son and heir of Sir John Savage, senior, and as husband of Anne, sister and heir of William Bostock, Esq.^[4]

Research Notes

Ormerod indicates that his wife was not Dorothy Vernon and lists no name for his spouse. The confusion stems from the inheritance of the manor and Barony [Cheshire] of Shipbrook - he indicates John's father John IV was heir general to the Barony of Shipbrook [Cheshire], through a marriage of his grandfather to an Ellen Vernon, not through a marriage to an Vernon.^[10] No name listed for his wife. ^[11]

However, Richardson in MCA ^[12]cites the Visitations of Cheshire in 1580 - "Sir John Savage KG slain at Bullen vx. Dorothy d. & heir to Ralph Vernon of Shipbrooke"^[13], "Dorothy vx. Jn Savage Knight", she was the daughter and heir of Ralph Vernon of Shipbrook and Elizabeth Norris.^[14].

The visitation has their children as Sir John Savage m. Anne Bostock, Alice Savage m. William Brereton of Brereton, Isabel m. a Needham of Shevington and Anne m. to a Hampden.^[13] He also had an illegitimate son George who was a Priest and parson of Dunham in Cheshire.^[15]

Richardson has their children as John, Elizabeth Savage m. John Hampden of Walbridge, Buckinghamshire, Alice, Felice m. Robert Milward of Eaton in Derbyshire, esq., Ellen m. John Haward and Maud m. Robert Needham of Shenton, Salop, and his natural son George.^[12]

Ormerod has John, Alice, Felicia, Ellen, Maud and natural son George.^[11]

The Dictionary of National Biography has an article on the Savage Family, which has Sir John Savage marrying Dorothy Vernon, da. of Sir Ralph Vernon of Haddon, with children John, Alice, Felicia m. Robert Milward of Eaton, Derbyshire, Ellen m. John Hawarden and Maud m. Sir Robert Needham of Shenton, Salop, along with George. George himself had several illegitimate sons, inc. George Savage, chancellor of Chester, John Wilmslow, archdeacon of Middlesex, and perhaps Edmund Bonner, bishop of London.^[16]

Former children:

1. Catherine

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2} Lee, 1897, p. 338-9 accessed 30 June 2015.
2. ↑ ^{2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13 2.14 2.15} Helsby, 1882, p. 713.
3. ↑ ^{3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 3.13 3.14 3.15 3.16 3.17 3.18} Rylands, 1882, p. 204 accessed 30 June 2015.
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3} E H Rhodes, comp, "Appendix 2. Welsh Records. Calendar of Warrants, Signed Bills, and Privy Seals, Hen VI—Eliz, for Cheshire and Flintshire", The Twenty-Sixth Annual Report of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records [18 February 1865], (London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1865), 28, e-Book HathiTrust (https://hdl.handle.net/2027/mdp.39015039450500?urlappend=%3Bseq=344%3Bownerid=34524627-343 : accessed 30 October, 2022). #10.
5. ↑ History of Cheshire v. 1 p. 526
6. ↑ ^{6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 6.5 6.6} Helsby, 1882, p. 714.
7. ↑ Richardson's Royal Ancestry (citation below)
8. ↑ Rylands, 1882, p. 205 accessed 30 June 2015.
9. ↑ David Flintham, "Boulogne", Fortified Places, https://web.archive.org/web/20160608173614/http://www.fortified-places.com/boulogne/, accessed 19 July, 2022.
10. ↑ History of Cheshire v. 3 p. 132
11. ↑ ^{11.0 11.1} History of Cheshire v. 1 p. 526
12. ↑ ^{12.0 12.1} Magna Carta Ancestry v.3 p. 492
13. ↑ ^{13.0 13.1} The Visitation of Cheshire in the year 1580 p. 204
14. ↑ The Visitation of Cheshire in the year 1580 p. 233
15. ↑ The Visitation of Cheshire in the year 1580 p. 205, note
16. ↑ Tim Thornton,‘Savage family (per. c.1369–1528)’, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004; online edn, May 2007

See also:

• Helsby, Esq, Thomas, eds. "Containing the Introduction and Prolegomena, the county of the city of Chester and Bucklow Hundred", The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester; Compiled from Original Evidences in Public Offices, the Harleian and Cottonian MSS, Parochial Registers, Private Muniments, Unpublished Ms Collections of Successive Cheshire Antiquaries, and a Personal Survey of Every Township in the County; incorporated with a republication of King's Vale royal, and Leycester's Cheshire antiquities, 2nd Edition. Compiled by George Ormerod, Esq, LLD, FRS & FSA. I. London: George Routledge and Sons, 1882.
• Lee, Sidney, eds. Dictionary of National Biography. Archive.org. L Russen—Scobell. London: Smith, Elder, & co., 1897. https://archive.org/stream/dictionaryofnati50stepuoft#page/n9/mode/2up.
• Rylands, John Paul, eds. "The visitation of Cheshire in the year 1580 made by Robert Glover, Somerset Herald, for William Flower, Norroy king of arms, with numerous additions and continuations, including those from the visitation of Cheshire made in the year 1566, by the same herald. With an appendix, containing the Visitation of a part of Cheshire in the year 1533, made by William Fellows, Lancaster Herald, for Thomas Benolte, Clarenceux king of arms. And a fragment of the Visitation of the City of Chester in the year 1591, made by Thomas Chaloner, deputy to the Office of arms". Archive.org. The Publications of the Harleian Society. XVIII. London: Harleian Society, 1882. https://archive.org/stream/visitationofches00glov#page/n9/mode/2up.
• Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), Vol IV, pp 557-558 SAVAGE #16.i. John Savage, K.G., K.B.