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Charles Savoie (1703 - bef. 1767)

Charles Savoie
Born in Port-Royal, Acadie, Nouvelle-Francemap
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Husband of — married 16 Jan 1730 in Annapolis Royal, Acadie, Colony of Nova Scotiamap
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Died before before age 63 [location unknown]
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Biography

Charles Savoie, son of Germain Savoie and Marie dite Vincelotte Breau, was born in 1703 at Port-Royal, Acadie.[1] He was christened there on 24 June 1703.[2]

Charles Savoie and Francoise Martin, daughter of Etienne Martin and Marie Jeanne Comeau, were married 16 January 1730 in Port-Royal.[3]

Their children were:

  1. Marie Josèphe Savoie (1730– )
  2. Francois Savoie (about 1731–1780)
  3. Anne Savoie (about 1734– )
  4. Felicite Savoie (1736–1760)
  5. Rosalie Savoie (1738–1794)
  6. Marguerite Savoie (1740–1816)
  7. Madeleine Savoie (about 1743– )
  8. Guillaume Savoie (1745– )
  9. Josephine Savoie (about 1747–1764)
  10. Jean Valois Savoie (1749–1803)
  11. Ludivine Savoie (1752– )

According to Bona Arsenault, the family was deported to New York in 1755. [4] Stephen White does not mention the presence of Charles or Françoise on censuses in the New England colonies. However, her brothers François and Jean-Charles were recorded in New York in 1763, and in Champflore, Martinique in 1766. [1] It is possible that Françoise followed her brothers to Martinique.

In 1763, with the signing of the Treaty of Paris, the British authorities allowed the Acadians to go free. Most could not leave immediately, having to earn money for passage elsewhere. Some in the American colonies may have stayed, but most chose to go north to Nova Scotia, west to Louisiana, or south to Martinique shortly thereafter.

Charles died at an unknown location before the 1766 census in Martinique in which Françoise was recorded with her second husband Hugues Racle.[1]

Research Notes

The following information about Charles and his family being recorded in New York in 1756 was included in the biography but is not noted by genealogists Stephen White and Karen Theriot Reader who do not mention his presence in New England colonies. But it is quite possible that he and Françoise were there. Also on this list were François Martin, possibly Françoise's brother and Pierre Lord, married to Elisabeth Martin, Françoise's sister. (Cormier-1939 00:29, 30 December 2023 (UTC))

Charles remained in Port Royal until the day he and his family were deported in late 1755. Charles, his wife Françoise Martin and eight of their eleven children were boarded on the English vessel Experiment on December 8, 1755 and deported to New York. Charles was 52 years old. In a letter dated May 6, 1756, during the time of Gov. Hardy, appear the names of French Neutrals sent by Gov. Lawrence from Nova Scotia to New York and distributed in various towns in the Colony. Charles Savoit, his wife, and 8 children were sent to New Rochelle, Westchester County, NY. [5] Seven of the eight deported children survived the eight years of captivity.

A multiple descendant of Charles Savoie & Francoise Martin, mostly through son Jean "dit Valois" Savoie sent a message. "I manage two Savoie/Savoy Y-DNA kits @ FTDNA, one from a line here in Louisiana and one from Nova Scotia. I have upgraded both kits to 111 and my kit to Big Y 700. You can check out these results in our AAA project. The SNP my kit currently sits on is R-FT369318. However, we are not at our final SNP destination as we do not have enough Savoie Big Y participation." Deadra Doucet Bourke, Admin, Acadian Amerindian Ancestry DNA project.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes (Moncton, New Brunswick: Centre d'Études Acadiennes, 1999) p. 1458;
    Text: Sponsors: Yvon GURE (who signed) & Marie SAVOIE.
  2. Public Archives of Nova Scotia - St. Jean Baptiste Ch. Register, Annapolis 1702-1755; RG 1, vol. 26, p. 7;
    Text: Felix Pain, Priest; 24 June 1703 Baptism of Charles Savoy born 25 May 1703; Germain Savoy, Father; Marie Vinalote, Mother; Godparents Yvone Quaine and Marie Savoy
    Text: Charles SAVOY, son of Germain SAVOY & Marie VINALOTE. Sponsors: Yvone QUAINE & Marie SAVOY.
  3. Public Archives of Nova Scotia, St. Jean Baptiste Church Register, Annapolis 1702-1755, RG 1, Vol. 26a, p.44;
    René Charles de Breslay, Priest; 16 January 1730 Marriage of Charles Savoye twenty-six years old Groom; Germain Savoye, Father; Marie Brau. Mother; Françoise Martin nineteen years old Bride; Etienne Martin, Father; Marie Comau, Mother; Paul Savoye brother of the groom, Jacques Michel, son of Jacques Michel, Joseph Landry son of Claude Landry, first cousin of the bride, Pierre Michel son of Jacques Michel, cousin of the bride, Witnesses.
  4. Geneanet.org, Karen Theriot Reader's Family Tree, page for Charles Savoie citing Bona Arsenault, HISTOIRE ET GENEALOGIE DES ACADIENS; 1600-1800; Ottawa, Editions Lemeac, 1978, vols. 2-6; p. 797 (Port Royal); own copy. He was deported to New York.
  5. Calendar of Council minutes 1668-1783, New York (State). Council. (Albany, University of the state of New York, 1902). p. 427 https://archive.org/details/calendarofcounci00newy_0/page/427/mode/1up




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Confusion! I have seen a handful of other Internet sources that say Hugues Racle was married to Charles' wife Francoise Martin, about 1766. Including a reference to a 1766 Martinique census with him, Francoise, and a daughter from a previous marriage. Any comments?
posted by Kathleen (Burke) Kocks
I see a sentence that says this in the biography but the source attributed to that did not mention any remarriage. Do you have actual sources such as the census in Martinique? That would be most helpful. Cindy Bourque Cooper, co-leader, Acadians Project
posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
Steven Cormier says Charles died in New York before 1763, when his widow Francoise and eight children were on a list. See http://www.acadiansingray.com/Acadians%20of%20LA-intro-3b.html#SavoieB3. Book 3.
posted by Stephanie Ward
Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes - Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes, Première Partie 1636-1714 - Stephen A. White - 2 vols., Moncton, New Brunswick: Centre d'Études Acadiennes, 1999 - p. 1458 - Charles died before the 1766 census.

This census should be available online at https://heritage.canadiana.ca/

It's been a long time since I've waded through those censuses but they do have a lot of information.

posted by Jacqueline Girouard
Jackie or others, do you know which location the 1766 census was for? There are 154 entries on the website linked by Jackie so it would help to narrow down what to look for.
posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
The census was for Champflore in Martinique: bottom of page 3. I added it to Françoise's profile as well as sources from Stephen White and André-Carl Vachon noting her 2nd marriage to Hugues Racle. I will update Charles Savoie's profile about deportation.
posted by Gisèle Cormier
Kathleen, thank you for your comment. You have helped to uncover the remarriage, deportation and a census in Martinique for him. Thanks to Gisele who found the info and is going to update the profile.
posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper

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