William Scott Sr.
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William Scott Sr. (abt. 1720 - bef. 1794)

William Scott Sr.
Born about in Charles, Maryland, British Colonial Americamap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married about 1751 in Charles, Maryland, British Colonial Americamap
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 74 in Goose Creek, Bedford, Virginia, United Statesmap
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The Birth Date is a rough estimate. See the text for details.
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2018 Collaborative Research Project is currently underway, involving the family of William and Lucy Scott. Details on this project and research notes for William Scott, Sr. may be found at Space:Supplemental William Scott 1720-1794 of Bedford, Virginia. This profile is currently at Phase 4 of 5.

Contents

Biography

This biography will be updated here as our research project progresses. There really are no easy, short answers regarding William Scott, Sr., certainly for his vital statistics and also for his relationships. We have presented the range of possibilities and then shown our reasoning for the most likely estimates, suggestions or conclusions.

There is no primary source to support William's birth date or place, as well as no source proving who his parents were. His 1793 Will does provide many clues as to his identity and relationships for spouse and children. The Will names his wife Lucy, as well as the names of his twelve children living in that year. It also gives his residence in the last year of his life as Bedford County, Virginia.[1][2] There are many suggested versions of his origins on many on-line trees, of which a sampling are summarized in the research sections of Space:Supplemental William Scott 1720-1794 of Bedford, Virginia. Some say that William was born in Scotland and immigrated into eastern Maryland.[3] Some say that his father was born in Scotland,[4] but none of this is proven. See the origins section below for more discussion

William's widow's (second wife) maiden name remains unproven, but many trees name her Lucretia James of James City county, Virginia.[5]We have no source that proves William and Lucy's marriage date and place, if it was about 1752 in Maryland. There is a birth record for a William Scott 1751, with parents William Scott and Lucresy, but in St. Lukes Parish, Queen Anns county, MD. Since the record is not in Charles or Prince Georges counties, its relevance is questionable.
The western part of Lunenberg county was subdivided to form Bedford County in 1754, so events before that date would be referenced in the older county. Some other boundary changes of Bedford county occurred, and these need to be reviewed and summarized here in order to qualify place names within various given date ranges. We do not know the birth dates and places of William and Lucy's children, except for two. Their ninth child, Joseph, who was born in 1757, and their tenth child, Obediah, who was born in 1764, both in Bedford county, Virginia, according to each of their military service pension records. These confirmed dates have shifted the commonly accepted birth estimates of the rest of the children. Another reason for adjusting birth year estimates is to align their birth order to coincide with the order of their listing in the 1793/1794 Will. Study of the 1793 Will, the residences of the children, naming patterns of the grandchildren, and some other conclusions reasoned from general information gives us clues that William probably had an earlier marriage before Lucy. See the theory on two marriages and the list of indicators.

Several possible land records for our William, dated 1753 through 1769, have been found. One example is "William Scott, 400 acres Bedford Co. July 14, 1769. (38, p.821)."[6] We are continuing to analyze these sources and search for additional relevant records. A number of records in the Valentine Papers which are recorded in Bedford county also reference Chesterfield county and these records probably all apply to a William Scott who came to Bedford from Chesterfield county and was not our William.

However, much of William's identity and relationships remains uncertain, but we do know that his Will was written on 7th December 1793, and processed in probate court on 24th November 1794 in Bedford county, Virginia. This record proves that his death occurred in that county and between those dates.[7][8]

As this ongoing research project uncovers more sources, this biography and the specific life event sub-sections below will be updated. (Note by Steve Lake on 18Aug2018.)


Origins

Several secondary sources have been found which describe possible origins of William Scott and his ancestors. These are considered poor quality sources because they consist of unsupported information and also disagree with one another, but these are being aggregated here under one heading to show the similarities from diverse places and dates, which may lend the information a higher level of credibility, or at least acceptance.
"We have no certain evidence where our Scott family originated, perhaps in the highlands or the lowlands of Scotland or perhaps they were Scots-Irish. The progenitors of the Scott family in the Tug River Valley were William and Lucretia James Scott of Bedford County, Virginia. The Scott Family Sketch (1851) states that William Scott’s father emigrated from the Highlands of Scotland to either Charles or Prince Georges County, Maryland, early in the 18th century. William emigrated early in his life from Maryland to Bedford County, Virginia, shortly after his marriage to a Miss Lucretia (Lucy) James.4
4   William Poston Scott (author 1851) and Mrs. C. L. Arnold (compiler 1958), The Scott Family Sketch. This document is widely cited, but I could not find the source in library catalogs or online references. This reference was by Col. Fred W. Scott in The Scott Genealogical Quarterly, 43, found on Google Books.
Goodwin, Rebecca Hoskins. "Who Are Her People?: The Life and Family of Louise Maynard Hoskins" 2018. (Kindle Locations 2970-2973). iUniverse. Copied from Kindle Edition. Also available for viewing at (https://books.google.com/books?id=gThmDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT121&lpg=PT121&dq=%22Axton+Scott%22+%22Dorcas+Wright%22+Virginia+1748&source=bl&ots=TPx615yk08&sig=R0BmYaGBvgQhasOGODEkZTz8CiA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjAyKyWyKTeAhWDqIMKHbk1DdQQ6AEwB3oECAEQAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false : accessed on 26Oct2018).

77-88. William SCOTT d. Bedford Co., VA; will probated there, 1794. SCOTT FAMILY SKETCH (1851) states William SCOTT'S father emigrated from the "Highlands" of Scotland to either Charles or Prince Georges Co., MD early 18th Century. William emigrated early in life from MD to Bedford Co., VA shortly after marriage to Lucretia (Lucy) JAMES. Seeking info of William and Lucretia--birth place, parents, MD residence, marriage.
Col. Fred w. SCOTT, 146 Feeser Rd . . Littlestown, PA 17340 . Page 43.
78-88. James SCOTT came to KY as early as 1805 from Bedford Co., VA and settled in Scott Co., where he d., 1810. James, his brothers George and Obediah, are listed in Campbell Co. Census of 1810. Nicholas and Henry, sons of James, were in Breckenridge Co. in 1810. Seeking info of James to include last residence, place of death and burial.
Col, Fred w. SCOTT, address above.

  • William Scott found in “The Scott Genealogical Quarterly.”

Published quarterly by Clan Scott, USA and the Scott one-Name Study. Volume 1, April 1987, Number 1. Page 42
Aceto Bookmen, 5721 Antietam Drive, Sarasota, FL 33581, 1985 (Study Ref :PS0 1.00 1.0 12) Hannah Scott m. Christopher Webb Jonathan Scott m. Abigail Safford JAMES William Scott died in Bedford County, Virginia and his 42.
SCOTT - Seek information on William Scott, b. in Scotland, but where is an unknown factor, but came to Charles or Prince [Georges] County, MD then to Bedford County, VA with will dated 07Dec1793 probated 24Sep1794 and settled 26Sep1825.
LTC William L. Scott (AUS RET), box 1, Traveler’s Rest, Rt. 2, 1200 Johnston Road, Dade City, FL 33525. Page 44. (https://books.google.com/books?id=ixc5lN9fVN0C&pg=PA43&lpg=PA43&dq=The+Scott+Family+Sketch&source=bl&ots=mpG_tSMZQe&sig=pDtrOWegfciBnBDmOECE5bRb1JM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwim0NaG7qTeAhUJ9IMKHbq4BsgQ6AEwHHoECAsQAQ#v=onepage&q=Bedford&f=false : accessed 26Oct2018)

Similar information can also be found on D.A.R., RootsWeb.com, Ancestry, and other sites which have been collected and recorded both here, on a supplementary research page, and individual descendant researchers; "Known Ancestry of Julia Ann NEELY," Rebecca Hoskins Goodwin, Susan Scott Brouillard, Patricia Gammons, Donald Eugene Scott, and others. This research project does not assert that the information on William Scott's origins is proven, but only that it is widely accepted from earlier secondary sources.


Birth

A reasonable birth year estimate for William is about 1720, place still unproven. The year 1720 has been calculated from various other facts, some directly and some indirectly using reasoning and statistical norms. Two commonly found suggestions have been retained below for comparison.

William was born in 1732. William Scott passed away in 1794. [9] (This late date is not supported by any source, and furthermore it conflicts with the calculated range of birth years for William and Lucy's twelve children. (Comment by Steve Lake 01Jan2019) The 1732 date cannot be possible if the marriage date of 1740 is accepted. Work is still being done on the children to establish better birth date estimates, the 1740 marriage estimate still seems to be a reasonable estimate and when lined up with a reasonable average age of 20 at time of marriage. (Note by Steve Lake on 12Jun2018.)

William Scott. Born about 1720 in Bedford Co. Virginia.[10] The 1720 date fits his marriage date of 1740. Other birth year estimates have been suggested, such as 1716 and 1719, which would also work out if we could just find a source. (Note by Steve Lake on 12Jun2018.)

Parents

No primary source has been found which proves who William's parents were. However, three secondary sources suggest either that his father was the immigrant from Scotland or Ireland, that William came from unknown locality to Maryland, or that his origins are varied without substantiation.

"We have no certain evidence where our Scott family originated, perhaps in the highlands or the lowlands of Scotland, or perhaps they were Scots-Irish. The progenitors of the Scott family in the Tug River Valley were William and Lucretia James Scott of Bedford County, Virginia."
"The Scott Family Sketch (1851) states that William Scott's father emigrated from the Highlands of Scotland to either Charles or Prince Georges County, Maryland, early in the 18th century.4
"Another researcher also cites "The Scott Family Sketch" but asserts that it was William himself who came to Charles County, Maryland, and that he sold property there in 1747, 1748 and 1766 and moved to Bedford County, Virginia, where in a deed registered in 1763, he purchased property near the foot of the Blue Ridge on Goose Creek.5
"As a third Scott researcher says, "The origins of William Scott are varied and without substantiation." These vary from the following suggested parents;

  1. ) Walter Scott (1713-1818) and Helen Wilson (1718-??) whose son William was born in Denny Scotland. There is no source which links this son to our William. In addition, the dates of birth for Walter and Helen are too late, even for William's frequently given birth of 1732, which is too late for his known children. Their profiles on FamilySearch.org show a second son named William (born & died in Scotland). No profiles similar to these individuals were found on WikiTree as of 29Oct2019.
  2. ) John Scott from Ireland whose son William was born in Charles County, Maryland. This is a better possibility, but still no primary source and very little else. Profiles on FamilySearch.org are John Scott (1701-1740) and Elisabeth Nielson (1704-??), but probably a different attempt at possible parents. No similar profile for a John Scott were found on WikiTree as of 29Oct2019.
  3. ) Walter Scott (1711-1818) and Janet Inlis/Inglish (1711-1761) from Selkirk, Scotland. The profiles for these parents have been disconnected with no alternative on 29Oct2019 by Steven Lake. Their suggested birth dates are also too late to fit William's estimated birth year of 1720.
  4. ) William Scott (1693-1746) and Anne Coode (1695-1763), both born in Maryland and married there about 1719. These are more tempting possibilities, but with definite absence of proof and a second listed son named William (b:1729 in England), according to profiles on FamilySearch.org. No similar profiles to these individuals were found on WikiTree as of 29Oct2019.

"Even though we have been unable to establish William's parentage and place of birth or where he and Lucretia were married, we know that William and Lucretia were the parents of twelve children. This is corroborated by William's Will, which is dated 7 December 1793, and probated 24 November 1794 in Bedford County, Virginia.7[11]

The suggested parents listed above have absolutely no proof and are only listed here as a starting point for further investigation. Obvious points are noted which indicate further research is less than promising for some, and very doubtful for others.

Marriage

"About 1740 when William was 20, he married Lucretia "Lucy" James, in Halifax County, Virginia. [She was] Born about 1722 in Bedford County, VA."[12] It appears that the 1740 date is based on the birth year estimates of William and Lucy's children. Keep in mind that Halifax county was formed in 1752 from Lunenberg county. After work is completed on all the children, we may have a slightly different picture, although that is unlikely because twelve children usually more than fills an average woman's child-bearing years. Lucy's estimated birth is probably also based on her children's birth estimates. Genealogy work needs to be done on Lucy, too. (Note by Steve Lake on 12Jun2018.)

"The Scott Family Sketch (1851) states that William emigrated early in his life from Maryland to Bedford County, Virginia, shortly after his marriage to a Miss Lucretia (Lucy) James.4[13]

Theory of Two Marriages and Six Indicators

It is assumed and/or accepted by many that Lucy, William's widow, was the mother of all of his twelve children. A careful study of the sources that we have collected so far reveals several points that we have used to reason several interesting conclusions in our Theory of William Scott's Two Marriages.

  1. The 1793 Will lists Lucy as William's widow. She inherited all moveable property and after her death, her property went to Peter, her son. This type of inheritance usually went to a daughter who provided care for aging parents. Peter is listed twice, third and next to last, and is the only child specified as Lucy's son. Since it went to a son, and not Sarah, the only daughter listed, suggests that Sarah was not Lucy's daughter.
  2. So far in our research project, we have only proven the birth dates of two children; Joseph (number 9 in the Will) in 1757 and Obediah (number 10 in the Will) in 1764. Some Wills list offspring in birth order, oldest to youngest, and that is a reasonable assumption in this case. The fact that the first two children listed in the Will, James and George, also were the only two children to inherit real property (land) and they were also jointly listed as executors, reinforces that they were the oldest. If the listed order in the Will is also their birth order, then Joseph and Obediah are consecutive with no sibling born between them, leaving a seven year gap. This gap makes it nearly impossible for Lucy to be the mother of twelve children during the average length of child-bearing years.
  3. Next we looked at the pattern of residence places for the twelve children after they married and moved away from home. We have not found proof for Sarah's husband, children or place of residence. The five oldest boys all resided in Campbell county. Kentucky, at least for a time, with one going to Tennessee and two going to Ohio. Of the younger six boys, with the exception of Evan, who moved to Madison county, Kentucky, and Axton, who remained in Bedford county, Virginia, four of these went to Washington county, Virginia. This pattern of segregation suggests that the older children had a different mother than the younger children had.
  4. A less conclusive, but interesting, indicator is found in the naming patterns of Lucy's grandchildren. Granted, the scope of our research does not include the grandchildren so we are relying on family history and the work of others for this evaluation, and we have no children for Sarah Lee and only one for James. There were nine grandchildren named William and six named Lucretia or Lucy. Two of the six older children had daughters named Lucretia, while four of the younger six had daughters named Lucretia or Lucy. This suggests that the older six were step children and the younger six were biological children of Lucy.
  5. The most conclusive indicators are land records. We have found no land record earlier than 1769 that places William and his family in Bedford county, VA, but we have proof that Joseph born in Bedford county in 1757 and Obediah was born there in 1764. The bibliography in a 2018 book helped us find land records for William in Charles county, Maryland from 1743, 1744 and 1767. These land sources leave a gap between 1744 and 1757, during which a move could have happened. The previous indicators of names and places suggests that the first six children, born before 1751, were probably born in Charles county, MD to an unknown mother. This leaves the youngest six, born after 1751, as the biological offspring of Lucy. The 2018 book states that William and Lucy were married in Charles county, MD and promptly moved to Bedford county, where all of her (six known) children would have been born.
  6. One idea that may help us find answers is allied families. Initial review of Virginia and Maryland sources has turned up many instances of same surnames as the spouses of William's children. Expanding our research to include Maryland has doubled our scope and including ten known surnames may multiply our time by a factor of ten. This would certainly be overwhelming for an individual researcher, even over a lifetime, but we have the advantages of the internet and collaboration. [14]

Our research group has discussed this "William Scott's Two Marriages Theory" and the indicators used in the reasoning that supports the theory. At first it seemed like a rather radical concept, but the more we exchanged ideas, the more obvious it became that the traditionally accepted view of Lucy being the only wife of William and the only mother of his twelve children, was only based on assumptions. We could easily move the accepted birth year estimate of William back, not knowing anything about his origins, but we could not do this knowing what we know about Lucy's origins, besides the accepted 20-year rule for child-bearing. Applying the standard rule of thumb for the average length of female fertility is based on statistical averages and is not an assumption. We admit that we probably have not thought of all the factors that relate to this idea and we hope that our presentation of a theory here will not be detrimental to our intent to move from confusingly random chaos toward systematically organized order. Surely a continued conversation from as many different quarters as possible will move our reasonable theory from an interesting possibility to the best likelihood, if not closer to most probable. Please comment here, in public comments. or by private message to me, Steve Lake.


Children

Twelve children are listed in the Will of William Scott 7 Dec 1793 in Bedford county, Virginia, in this listed order, which is assumed to be their birth order.

  1. James 1741-1817? (1m: abt.1775 Ann Watts Bufford, 2m: abt.1783 Mary Talbot, NOT the sister of Elizabeth)
  2. George 1742-1821 (1m: 1783 Martha Elmore, 2m: 1799 Theodicia "Dosha" Dent)
  3. Sarah (Scott) Lee 1743-after 1793 or 1838 (Lee was married name 1793)
  4. John 1745-after 1793 (m: abt.1771 Mary Prior)
  5. Thomas 1747-1830 or 1854 (1m: abt.1773 Mary Unknown, 2m: 1790 Ann Cooksey)
  6. William, Jr. 1749-1813 (1m: aft.1770 Unknown, 2m: 1792 Mary Thaxton/Thackston)
  7. Charles 1752-1826 (m: 1784 Elizabeth Talbot)
  8. Axton 1755-after 1793 (m: 1776 Dorcas Wright)
  9. Joseph 1757-1833 (m: 1783 Mary Talbot, sister of Elizabeth)
  10. Obediah 1764-1840 (m: aft.1784 Mary Unknown)
  11. Peter 1766-1837 (m: 1803 Rachel Ann Newell Poston) (Peter was listed twice in his father's 1793 Will. Firstly after James, George and his mother, Lucy. Secondly listed next to last, between Obediah and Evan. This suggests that Peter was a supporting caregiver to his parents in their old age and was given consideration for this. Note that Peter was the only child specifically named as a son of Lucy. If Peter was mentioned specifically as the son of Lucy, then is it possible that one or more of William's children had a mother other than Lucy? A land record also supports his role as caregiver.)
  12. Evan 1768-1847 (m: abt.1775 Elizabeth Lee)[15][16]

Birth year estimates have been adjusted to conform to the listed order in the 1793/4 Will, which is reasonably assumed to be actual birth order. Our 2018 research project has only found proving sources for the birth dates and places of Joseph (1757) and Obediah (1764). Work needs to be done on the rest of these children to try to establish more reasonable and firm birth year estimates and birth places. This work necessarily needs to include the full range of vitals, relationships and sources. Collaborators are needed for this phase, currently underway. These dates, places and relationships have been copied to profiles on FamilySearch.org along with pertinent sources and reasoned conclusions. (Note by Steve Lake on 12Jun2018. Status of profiles on Ancestry.com is unknown, but probably differs in both data and source support.)

Evidence and reasoning included in the "Theory of Two Marriages for William Scott" also applies to the children. Our research team believes William's six oldest children were born in Charles or Prince Georges counties, Maryland, and their mother's name is unknown. That implies that Lucy only had the youngest six children born in Bedford county, Virginia, but was a step-mother to, and raised, the older six, who were probably under age 10 or 12 at the time.

Residence

Starting with the proven location of Bedford county, Virginia in 1793, where his will was written and probated, and was also his probable place of death, we can work backwards. It is not known when he moved his family to Bedford county, nor where he may have come from. Halifax county, Maryland, where he may have married, is a possibility.[17] Our analysis of multiple primary and secondary sources, plus a sampling of family history and tree information, leads us to a conclusion that William lived in Bedford county, Virginia from about 1751 until his death, and resided in Maryland previous to about 1751, in Charles or Prince Georges counties. Work on his wife, Lucy, and her family may turn up some clues supporting a marriage place. At this point, William's birth place is wide open, including Scotland, but Stirlingshire probably belongs to a different William Scott.(Note by Steve Lake on 12Jun2018.) This is a preliminary conclusion. Evidence to support various residence places is presented below.

"The Scott Family Sketch" asserts that It was William himself who came to Charles County, Maryland, and that he sold property there in 1747, 1748 and 1766 and moved to Bedford County, Virginia, where in a deed registered in 1763, he purchased property near the foot of the Blue Ridge on Goose Creek.5[18]

"21 March 1753, William Scott, 100 acres on Middle Lick Run of Catawba."[19]

"John Phillip Weaver, Deed from John P. Weaver to William Scott (Buckingham) 150 acres on Stanton River. Witnesses; Mary Bumpass, Charles C. Simmons. Recorded 22 March 1763. Teste Ben Howard CBC."[20]

"Scott, William, Deed from William Scott to Josiah Bradshaw of Cumberland County. 150 acres lying on the North side of Stanton River. Recorded 28 April 1767. Teste Ben Howard CBC."[21]

"William Scott, 400 acres Bedford Co. July 14, 1769. (38, p.821)."[22][23]

William Scott, Sr. and William Scott, Jr. are listed in the 1787 Virginia Census, Bedford County Personal Property Tax List "B"[24][25] Besides William's son, William, Jr., other sons are listed; Axton, George, James and John.

I do know that our William's early property was on the headwaters of Goose creek where it flowed out of the Blue Ridge. (NW corner of Bedford county) I believe that he may have run a country store and perhaps a mill for grinding grain.(Note by Donald Scott on 06Aug2018.)

"William and brother, James, migrated to Virginia and is the beginning of our Scots of America."[26]

Military Service

Service in militia during French-Indian Wars is probable. Active military service during the American War for Independence is doubtful. William would have been in his 50's or 60's during the War for Independence, so any patriotic service may have been providing goods. He may have served in the Virginia militia during the earlier Indian wars when he was younger. One search of Daughters of the American Revolution, DAR.org found no match to birth year/Scotland. Another search found this Scott, William (no RANK), '" Service: VIRGINIA Rank(s): PATRIOTIC SERVICE, Birth: CIRCA 1716 VIRGINIA, Death: ANTE 5-13-1805 NELSON CO KENTUCKY, Service Description: PAID FOR SUPPLIES.
This latter DAR registrant is probably not relevant because it lists his death after 1805 and we know our William died in 1794. As we fine tune our William Scott's identity, DAR can be re-visited.(Note by Steve Lake on 12Jun2018.)

Death

William's death was probably during the year of 1794 in Bedford county, Virginia. Although his actual death date is not certain, his will was written on 7 Dec 1793 and it was processed in probate court on 24 Nov 1794[27][28][29], therefore his death would have been between those dates. There is a 11/12th's chance that he died in 1794, which is as close as we can get and is also universally accepted.(Note by Steve Lake on 12Jun2018.)

Will of William Scott, 1793 - Bedford Co. VA
Will Bk. 2, pg. 147
Dated: 7th December 1793, Probated: 24th November 1794
In The Name of God Amen. I William Scott of Bedford County being Infirm in body but in perfect health and memory do make & Ordain this my Last Will & Testament in form following that is to say---I give & Recommend my soul into the hands of this Almighty God that gave and my body I recommend to the earth to be decently interred at the discretion of executors and as touching such worldly estate which it has pleased Got Got to bless to me with I Will Bequeath in the following manner & form.
Item, I bequeath unto my son James Scott and George Scott all my lands and Tenements to be equally divided between them their heirs or assigns.
Item, I bequeath unto my beloved wife Lucy Scott all my moveable effects Goods & Chattles during her Life & at her decease to become my son - Peter Scott.
Item I beueath unto my Daughter Sarah Lee one Shilling Sterling.
Item I bequeath unto my son John Scott one Shilling Sterling.
Item I bequeath unto my son Thomas Scott one Shilling Sterling.
Item I bequeath unto my son William Scott one Shilling Sterling.
Item I bequeath unto my son Charles Scott one Shilling Sterling.
Item I bequeath unto my son Axton Scott one Shilling Sterling.
Item I bequeath unto my son Joseph Scott one Shilling Sterling.
Item I bequeath unto my son Obadiah Scott one Shilling Sterling.
Item I bequeath unto my son Peter Scott one Shilling Sterling and will my movable Effects Goods & Chattles after his mothers Decease----
Item I bequeath unto my son Evan Scott one Shilling Sterling.
Item I also do appoint my beloved sons James Scott & George Scott my sole Executors, and I do hereby utterly disallow revoke & disannuall all & every other former Testaments & Wills by me in any way before named. Willed & Bequeathed Rattifying this & no other to be my Last Will & Testament. In Witness where of I have herunto set my hand & seal this 7th day of December 1793
Teste
Edward Hore his
John Holladay William X Scott
William Brown mark
At a Court held for Bedford County the 24th day of November 1794.
This Last Will & Testament of William Scott Deceased was proven by the oath of Edward Hore John Holliday William Brown Witnesses whose names are thereunto subscribed and ordered to be recorded.
Teste
Ja. Steptoe, Clk.
Submitted & Transcribed by Buddy & Linda Harbin-Grubbs <lharbing[at]worldnet.att.net> Boone County, Kentucky

There are additional court records for subsequent action regarding the 1793 Will. The Appraisement of Estate of William Scott was recorded on 23 February 1795 by: John Wright, John Dent, Joseph Brown. The Inventory of Estate of William Scott was dated 3 July 1801 by: Henry Buford, John Otey, Christopher Black and recorded 27 July 1801.[30]


Sources

  1. USGW Archives.org, [1], Virginia Wills.
  2. FamilySearch.org, [2], Will of William Scott.
  3. A source for this information is needed.
  4. A source for this information is needed.
  5. A source for this information is needed.
  6. The Valentine Papers, [3] Page 1564.
  7. USGW Archives.org, [4], Virginia Wills.
  8. FamilySearch.org, [5], Will of William Scott.
  9. First-hand information as remembered by Maryrose Scott, Friday, October 3, 2014. Replace this citation if there is another source.
  10. Tripod.com, [6], The Scott Line.
  11. "Who Are Her People?: The Life and Family of Louise Maynard Hoskins" By Rebecca Hoskins Goodwin 2018, [7], No page numbers, Section on Scott's.
  12. Tripod.com, [8], The Scott Line.
  13. "Who Are Her People?: The Life and Family of Louise Maynard Hoskins" By Rebecca Hoskins Goodwin 2018, [9], No page numbers, Section on Scott's.
  14. Sources that were specifically used need to be attached to each of these six indicators of the Two Marriage Theory.
  15. USGW Archives.org, [10], Virginia Wills.
  16. FamilySearch.org, [11], Will of William Scott Names of Children.
  17. A source for this information is needed.
  18. "Who Are Her People?: The Life and Family of Louise Maynard Hoskins" By Rebecca Hoskins Goodwin 2018, [12], No page numbers, Section on Scott's.
  19. Kegley's VIRGINIA FRONTIER, [13], Page 76.
  20. BEDFORD COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOK B-2, [14], Page 152, Ann Chilton 1992, page 10.
  21. BEDFORD COUNTY, VIRGINIA DEED BOOK C-3, [15], Page 67, Ann Chilton 1992, page 7.
  22. The Edward Pleasants Valentine Papers, [16], Page 1564.
  23. The Edward Pleasants Valentine Papers, [17], Page 1564.
  24. "Laws of Virginia," [18], Page 254.
  25. BEDFORD 1787 PROPERTY TAX LISTS, [19], List "A" page 198, List "B" page 208.
  26. A source for this information is needed.
  27. USGW Archives.org, [20], Virginia Wills.
  28. FamilySearch.org, [21], Will of William Scott.
  29. WikiTree.com, [22], Image of Original Will.
  30. Bedford County Will Book 2, [23], Pages 75 & 90.


  • William Scott of Bedford County, Virginia found in "The The Edward Pleasants Valentine Papers"

Citation
(https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Edward_Pleasants_Valentine_Papers_Al.html?id=uC4lAAAAMAAJ | accessed on 07Aug2018) and (https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/001263493 | accessed on 07Aug2018) May also be found on WorldCAT (library reference) and Amazon (for sale) | accessed on 07Aug2018 by Vickie and by Steve Lake.

  • 1787 Virginia Census "Bedford County Personal Property Tax List "B"

Transcribed Information
Last Name - First name - Charged with Tax - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - Notes
Scott - William, Jr. - self - 0 - 4 - 6 - 5 - 9
Scott - William, Sr. - W.S. Jr. - - - - -
Scott - William, Jr. - self - 1 - 1 - 1 - 5 - 12
Scott - William, Sr. - W.S. Jr. - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1
From published book "Laws of Virginia," date (1987?) and author (Louis H. Manarin, State Archivist) unknown. (https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/56211686 : accessed on 12 June 2018 by Steven Lake, contributed by vNatale 6 June 2018) page 254, with Table of Contents and Foreword.

  • William Scott found in "THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LISTS FOR THE YEAR 1787 FOR BEDFORD COUNTY, VIRGINIA"

"The Personal Property Tax Lists ("A" & "B") for the Year 1787 for Bedford County, Virginia" by Netti Schreiner-Yantis and Florene Love, 1987. This reference work may be found on WorldCAT.org, which provides subsequent local locations, one of which is the Denver Public Library. (accessed on 23 Dec 2018 by Steve Lake) No digitized versions currently known.

  • "The Scott Line: My Roots" updated 6 July 2001.

(http://mkmary.tripod.com/webpage1/id5.html : accessed 11Jun2018 by SEL) This tree has twelve generations, 45 sources and an index. William and Lucy occur in the fourth generation. Attention is needed regarding proven and unproven data.

  • "Will of William Scott, 1793 - Bedford Co. VA Will Bk. 2, pg. 147 Dated: 7th December 1793, Probated: 24th November 1794"

In The Name of God Amen. I William Scott of Bedford County being Infirm in body but in perfect health and memory do make & Ordain this my Last Will & Testament in form following that is to say--- (From: http://files.usgwarchives.org/va/bedford/wills/scott1.tx and https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LY1Y-K95 | former is unknown format, latter is transcription only.)

  • Court Records: Will of William Scott written December 7, 1793. Bedford County, Virginia; will probated 24 November 1794, Bedford Co., Virginia, WB 2/p 147-8.
  • William Scott found in "1959 Letter by Mrs. C.L. Arnold"

Transcribed information from page one
1752 -Ref. “Va. Frontier” –Kegley Pgs. 171-165 Wm. Took up land that became Botet. Co.

Ref. (Augusta Co. -463 Land conveyed to Wm. (QUIT RENT not pd. Lost land
(D.B. 5-p. 92 - - 76 Deed for Land (ante 1773. Pat. Bk. 41 (p. 444-445.

1767 -Ref. Bed. Co. D. Bk. 3 p. 67 – Ind. Between Wm. S. of Bed. Co. & Josiah Bradshaw of Cumberland Co. Wm. S. sells him 150 A. on Staunton R. Rec. 28 Ap. 1767
1769 (Ref. “Va. Land Office” Pat. Bk. 38 p. 821—Wm. Obtained a Patent on 400 A. in Bed. Co. on 20 Ap. 1767.

(Ref. “The Edward Pleasant Valentine Papers” Vol. 3 p. 1564

1785-Ref. Bed. Co. Order Bk. 8 p. 145—“Wm. Was granted permission to keep an ORDINARY at his home on GOOSE CREEK” (My family ref. show Wm. S. lived on GOOSE CREEK, ESA)

Page One Letter by Mrs. C.L. Arnold

Manuscript in the collection of the St. Louis Historical Society. Photocopy provided Nov2018, image of page one found at (https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/Scott-210-3 : posted 11Dec2018). Mrs. C.L. Arnold also known as Ellanore Scott Arnold, granddaughter of William Poston Scott and descendant of Charles Scott. Original records of these references need to be found.

  • William Scott found in "VIRGINIA FRONTIER," by F. B. Kegley 1938."

Transcribed Information
March 21, 1753, William Scott, 100 acres on Middle Lick Run of Catawba. Page 76.
"KEGLEY'S VIRGINIA FRONTIER, The Beginning of the Southwest, The Roanoke of Colonial Days 1740-1783" with maps and illustrations. Published by The Southwest Virginia Historical Society, Roanoke, Virginia, U.S.A. MCMXXXVIII. Copyright 1938, The Southwest Virginia Historical Society. This reference work may be found on WorldCAT.org, which provides subsequent local locations, one of which is the Denver Public Library (accessed on 23 Dec 2018 by Steve Lake) No digitized versions currently known.

  • William Scott found in "Bedford County, Virginia, Deed Books"

Transcribed Information
Page 152, John Phillip Weaver, Deed from John P. Weaver to William Scott (Buckingham) 150 acres on Stanton River. wit. Mary Bumpass, Charles C. Simmons. Rec. March 22, 1763. Teste Ben Howard CBC. Book B-2.
Page 67, Scott, William, Deed from William Scott to Josiah Bradshaw of Cumberland Co. 150 acres lying on the North side of Stanton R. Rec. April 28, 1767. Teste Ben Howard CBC. Book C-3.
"BEDFORD COUNTY, VIRGINIA, DEED BOOK A-1, B-2 AND C-3" Anne Chilton, 1992. Compiled from the original Bedford County Deed Books and published for wider distribution and ease of access. This reference work may be found on WorldCAT.org, which provides subsequent local locations, one of which is the Denver Public Library (accessed on 23 Dec 2018 by Steve Lake) No digitized versions currently known.

  • William Scott found in "Abstracts of Bedford County, Virginia, Will Book 2, with Inventories and Accounts 1788-1803."

Abstracted and edited from the original Bedford County, Virginia Will Book 2 by Joida Whitten, date unknown. Published for wider distribution and ease of access. This reference work may be found on WorldCAT.org, which provides subsequent local locations, one of which is dated 1981 at the Denver Public Library (accessed on 23 Dec 2018 by Steve Lake) No digitized versions currently known.

  • William Scott found in "BEDFORD COUNTY, VIRGINIA WILL BOOK 2"

Transcribed and compiled by Ann Chilton 1988. The 1988 Chilton Will Book image was copied from the book held by the Denver Public Library, (accessed on 23 Dec 2018 by Steve Lake). This reference work may be found on WorldCAT.org, which provides subsequent local locations. No digitized versions currently known.


See also:

Source: MyHeritage Family Trees MyHeritage.com [online database]. Lehi, UT, USA: MyHeritage (USA) Inc. https://www.myheritage.com/research/collection-1/myheritage-family-trees

Family tree: shreve family web site, managed by WILLIAM J SHREVE JR https://www.myheritage.com/site-126332342/shreve-family

Record: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-126332342-74-118500/william-scott-in-myheritage-family-trees

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William Scott
Birth: Aug 30 1737 - Denny, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Death: Nov 24 1794 - Bedford, Bedford, Virginia, USA
Parents: Walter Scott, Janet Scott (born Inglis)
Siblings: Robert Scott, William Scott, Jennett Scott

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I want to thank the US Southern Colonies Project for making this profile project protected. Since I have not been a profile manager during our collaborative research project for the last three years, it makes it difficult for me to take the next step. I am on the trusted list and would like to request to become a manager. I will explain why and what new relationship I would like to propose. I do not have to be the one to make these changes, if some other manager, or US Southern Colonies Project representative, wants to proceed with the input consensus.

During our project we have found some hints that William Scott's widow, Lucy, was not the mother of all 12 children listed in the 1793 Will of William. The theory of two marriages and the six indicators appears on William's profile and consequently five of his children oldest lack a profile for a mother. This sets the oldest five children as half-siblings to each other.

There is a profile for "First Wife of Maryland" on FamilySearch.org, created on 4 Nov 2018 and found here https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GMWP-QGG

Using that profile as an example, we can discuss what works and what needs to be adjusted. Starting with the name, I have had a lot of interference regarding "First Wife of" for the first name and "Maryland" as the birth surname. In reality, both names are unknown, but "Unknown" in either field is unacceptable, both on FS & WT. I dislike using married name for birth name.

The proposed profile will have two sources, one is the 1793 Will of William Scott in Bedford county, Virginia. The second is a 2018 book, "Who Are Her People?: The Life and Family of Louise Maynard Hoskins" by Rebecca Hoskins Goodwin, with a link to Google books.

Thank you for your input as we proceed.

posted by Steve Lake
Public post above has been copied to profiles of five oldest children to solicit input.
posted by Steve Lake
Hi Steve! I just saw your post (tracking template errors on project profiles - the Research Notes template that ends mentioning "Phase 4 or 5" should be deleted... no idea what Phase 4 or 5 means eihter).

I've added you as a profile manager and will check the children's profiles you copied your message to

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Thank you, Liz, for adding me as manager. Our collaborative project has been dormant, partly because COVID19 closed libraries and partly because of our waning energy.

The supplemental space page (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Supplemental_William_Scott_1720-1794_of_Bedford%2C_Virginia#Phase_Four) explains the five phases of our project. Phase one is what we know, phase two is interviews, phase three is collecting and analyzing tree information, phase four is listing what we don't know and more focused research, and phase five is profile improvements and conclusions. After about 18 months, we expanded our scope to include Maryland and associated families, and that was overwhelming, probably taking the wind out of our sails. As you can see, I have not gotten any response on my suggestion in 5 months. I am not sure whether that means no one is either in favor, or no one is against, proceeding. Knowing how dangerous it is to put forth theories, which we have already done, it may be wiser not to add to them. Please enlighten me on tracking template errors.

posted by Steve Lake
Errors abound with the use of parameters with the project's sticker and project box (US Southern Colonist Sticker & US Southern Colonist, respectively). While they both can accommodate up to three "needs=" parameters, neither can process "needs3=" (the parameters are needs= needs1= needs2=). And only the sticker accommodates a colony switch - e.g., |Maryland. Then there are typos (I just fixed one for neeeds=Research ... I think I'm remembering "Research" correctly).

Anyway, I knew these errors were collected by the database scrubs but couldn't remember how to find them. Aleš kindly sent me a link, which I've modified a bit - see https://wikitree.sdms.si/default.htm?report=err6&Query=Colonist&MaxErrors=1000&ErrorID=896 - you can cange the error searched for to see other problems for profiles that include "Colonist" (which both the project templates have).

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
ps - I went down a rabbit hole and then had a computer crash where I lost all my open tabs (which is how I track what needs done "now"). Do you still want to be manager of the five oldest children? (based on their profiles, that would be James, George, Sarah, John, & Thomas)
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I'm ok with existing profile management. I think I have ten of the 12 children because I created them in 2018.
posted by Steve Lake
I can't believe its been a year since last activity. Our Maryland and allied family research phase has been stalled because of the need to go back to published record abstracts in libraries and then having libraries closed by COVID-19. Maybe we should re-think our avoidance of dealing with Maryland State Archives. I can try to find a consultant who has experience with Maryland records and could map an efficient strategy.

One positive result of being inactive for a year is that this profile may be enough over the top to discourage contributions, especially the frivolous, redundant or superfluous. It can be discouraging to put in hours of research time on a profile make-over and then have to constantly undo contributions which we have already documented as irrelevant, incorrect or simply unproven. One can hope that having such a comprehensive process has possibly spilled back out onto the world wide web and influenced the content on other tree sites into a similar source-based profiles.

I have joined US Southern Colonies Project and will be requesting project protection for this profile. The purpose for doing this is to protect the research accumulated on this profile and to bring together another layer of consultants who can objectively evaluate our conclusions.

posted by Steve Lake
edited by Steve Lake
All managers and trusted list;

Unless anyone objects, I will be submitting a request to US Southern Colonies for PPP, profile project protection. This will provide several benefits, such as profile locking to protect data, and will also put it under their management, which is a higher level of supervision. They will assist with compliance to WikiTree standards and reconciling errors. It will also give this Green line favorable standing as early settlers and pioneers in the colony of Virginia.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:US_Southern_Colonies

posted by Steve Lake
This profile had a thorough proof-reading today, with a series of edits intended to make corrections and clarifications. The most obvious changes were disconnecting William's parents. Waiting until this late in the process allowed every possible opportunity to find proving sources for any parents. The most probable details were highlighted at the beginning of each section, with other possibilities qualified. Please review and make necessary corrections or make suggestions to me.

A few other improvements remain, mainly noted in the source reference list. Several of these could be converted to multiple references to conserve space.

Overall, I am pleased with how comprehensively this profile addresses the challenges of the diversity of details on the many other profiles of this family throughout the internet. Repeatedly going back to source support emphasizes how extremely important sources are to the process of qualifying these diverse details. I understand why so many different versions have come up through the lines of descendants and I hope that the consistent use of sources has kept the focus on the information, not on the contributors. This process has involved numerous descendants' contributions, either actively or passively without knowledge or consent, so there is ongoing potential for conflict and disagreement. Hopefully all who take the time to review our process here will gain a greater appreciation of the diversity of contributions and a deeper understanding of how we reached our conclusions. As time consuming as it may be to review our entire process, doing so will go a long way toward avoiding conflict and reducing disagreement, as well as introducing opportunities to present further ideas. Our process would have been incomplete without finding and addressing at least most of the versions we were able to find.

The 2018 William Scott collaborative research project will continue to dig into Maryland records and also the many allied families both in Maryland and Virginia.

posted by Steve Lake
The 2018 Collaborative Research Project will be making edits on all of the profiles of this family. This process will involve condensing the material in the research section and moving it to the bottom of the profile. Additionally, all info will be evaluated and all possible improvements will be made to all other sections. Please make suggestions or comments.
posted by Steve Lake
Recently found materials and sources which apply to our William Scott, Sr. and his family are causing our 2018 research project team to take a closer look at what we have assembled so far.

One source which was published this year has affirmed W.S. Sr.'s origins in Maryland. Another older source has a list of duplicate James Scott's which will help us sort out the Scott lines other than our own. One of our group's recent discussions asks the question whether Lucy was the mother of all twelve of W.S. Sr.'s known children. We have identified five (now six) indicators which support this theory and these have been presented on Lucy's profile. The next round of edits will incorporate these indicators to all of the profiles of the rest of the family.

posted by Steve Lake
William Scott 1750-1835 of North Carolina was removed today because there is no evidence that he was a son of William and Lucy Scott of Bedford county, VA. During the course of the 2018 collaborative project, no response has been received from the manager of that profile regarding the question on the parents. Evidence may be found on the profiles and change histories of these Scott profiles if there are questions or if mistakes were made.
posted by Steve Lake
1787 Virginia Census - William, Sr. and William, Jr. both listed. This record moved to "Residence" section. Source created in "Sources" section. 29Sep2018 by SEL.

1769 Land Purchase in Bedford County, VA found in the Valentine Papers. This record moved to "Residence" section. Source created in "Sources" section. 29Sep2018 by SEL.

About 1785 on Goose Creek in Bedford, William, Sr. granted permission to keep an ordinary (tavern). Reminder to prep this source with citation.

Next, work is needed to move relevant info and sources of Court Records.

posted by Steve Lake
1853 Rev. War Pension Statement of Obediah gives birth date 15Feb1764 in Bedford country, VA. That would confirm Willam & Lucy's residence in that year and place.
posted by Steve Lake
I wonder if we are pushing the space limits on the profiles of these Scott family members? Even if we are not running out of space, we need to think about reasonable limits of what is a reasonable and comfortable amount of reading material for a profile. Or maybe it is too early in our process to worry about that. Still, it may not hurt to explore ways that we can use one or more free space profiles that could help us organize the parts of our research process we want to save, but not burden profile readers with at their first look.
posted by Steve Lake
Although several experienced researchers have concluded that the parents of William Scott are unknown, there are currently parents connected to this WT profile. Please be advised that William's parents are unproven and are probably best listed as unknown. It is also advisable to remain aware of the various possible candidates and their level of possibility.

Duplicate parents:

Walter Scott (Scott-211) b. 1682 d. 1762[uncertain]

Walter Scott (Scott-16729) b. 1700 d. 1780

and

Janet Scott (Unknown-277068) b. 1705 d. [uncertain]

Janet Inglis (Inglis-753) b. 06 Apr 1700 d. 1761

posted by Steve Lake
Donald Scott has suggested that we add a task to our list. There may be multiple individuals in Bedford County, Virginia named William Scott. It is just as important to identify our line as is it to be aware of those with similar identities who are not in our line. It is probably a good idea to add a section heading under which we can track these other William Scoot's. The rejected matches list below may be a good starting place. Thanks, Don.

Our brilliant researcher and able helper, Vickie, has found another treasure, "The Edward Pleasants Valentine Papers, Vol. I-IV" which lists many court documents for various men named William Scott. This will be useful in sorting out who they all were and ways to tell them apart. Analysis will take some time. My next thought is that we need to collect brief histories of when Virginia counties were formed and boundaries changed, so we have a better idea of the territories included in these documents.

posted by Steve Lake
There is a pending merge with https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Scott-16728

That is interesting as the bio for Scott-16728 says "William and brother, James, migrated to Virginia and is the beginning of our Scots of America.

With a source of: Court Records: Will of William Scott written December 7, 1793. Bedford County, Virginia; will probated 24 November 1794, Bedford Co., Virginia, WB 2/p 147-8.

I believe this profile represents that same man, however it has attached as his wife Marry Prior, who according to present information would actually have been the wife of his son John Scott.

Any thoughts?

posted by Erik Granstrom

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