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George Soule (1695 - bef. 1784)

George Soule aka Sole
Born in Dartmouth, Bristol, Province of Massachusetts Baymap
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Husband of — married 1719 in Dartmouth, Bristol, Province of Massachusetts Baymap [uncertain]
Descendants descendants
Died before before age 88 in Nine Partners, Dutchess, New York, United Statesmap
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Biography

George was a Friend (Quaker)

George Soule, son of William and Hannah (Eaton) Soule, was born 5 Oct 1695, in Dartmouth, Massachusetts.[1][2]

It appears that George was the son who was apprenticed, by his father, to John Russell about 1709. From his will, George was a blacksmith.[1]

George married probably at Dartmouth 19 8mo - 15 9m 1719 Lydia Howland (11 Oct 1701-after 1776), daughter of Benjamin and Judith (Samson) Howland. The records of the Dartmouth Monthly Meeting show that George and Lydia published their intention to marry, "contrary to our order" They were disowned 21d 10m 1721.[3] Benjamin Howland's will proved 21 Mar 1726/7 named among others his daughter "Lidiah" Howland now wife of George Soule.[1]

George acknowledged before the Dartmouth monthly meeting on 21d 7m 1724 [21 Sep 1724] for marrying contrary to discipline in 1719.[4] His wife acknowledged on the same day.[4] The acknowledgement is as follows:[4]

To the monthly meeting of friends to be held in Dartmouth the 21 day of ye 7th month 1724: Whereas I did in the year 1719 proceed in marriage Contrary to ye Good order and advice of friends amongst whom I was brought up and had my Education and for the above said Disorderly proceedings I was Justly Denied to be one in unity with them the people Called Quakers Whom I Do believe to be the Church of God: Truth hath appeared to me so lovely that it Causeth me to have a mind to be reconciled and to Condemn my outgoings in not keeping to ye Good order of the Church and advice of friends in that weighty consideration of Marriage and as for my trespass I Desire God to forgive me and that friends would pass it by and receive me into unity again.
George Soule

George resided in Little Compton 7 Aug 1733 when he deposed mentioning his brother Joseph Soule, "before he went to Caroline" and his brother Benjamin Soule and some others.[1]

In 1741, the family moved to Nine Partners, New York.[5] First George and Lydia sold their land in Dartmouth. Having been reunited with the church, 19 1mo 1741 the Dartmouth Monthly Meeting gave George Soule and his wife a certificate to go to Mamaronock Monthly Meeting in the "Government of New York." Lydia made return visits home 19 9mo 1744 and 21 8mo 1751, bringing a certificate to the Dartmouth Monthly Meeting.[1]

George Sole was taxed in Nine Partners, New York, Feb. 1741 to 1772.[1][6]

"George Soule & wife" are recorded as "Heads of Families, Oblong and Nine Partners Circularly, Dutchess, NY" in 1761.[7] There are 2 separate listings for "George Soule & Wife", the other listing most likely referring to his son George (born 1730).

During the Revolution, George and his family supported the English. Some of the sons served with the local British forces. Their religion allowed them to claim exemption from military service. This however did not stop both armies from "requisitioning" their goods. George was "distrained of an oxchain and steel trap"[8]

He died at Great Nine Partners, Dutchess County, New York, before 28 Feb 1784 (probate)[1] The will of George Soule of Great Nine Partners, New York, blacksmith, was dated 29 6m 1776 and proved 28 Feb 1784. He named his wife Lydia; son Rouland (executor); grandson Joseph, son of George, deceased; daughter Margaret and her five daughters (not named); the children of deceased daughter Lydia; witnesses John White and Elijah Hoag.[1][9]

Children[1]

  1. Margaret Soule b. 3 June 1720
  2. Elizabeth Soule b. 12 Aug 1722; probably died young, before 29 6mo 1776 *Note: George did not have a daughter Elizabeth who m. Nathan Birdsall, as claimed by Ridlon.[8]
  3. Daniel Soule b. 13 April 1724
  4. Sarah Soule b. 21 March 1726
  5. Benjamin Soule b. 12 Aug 1728
  6. George Soule b. 12 April 1730
  7. Rowland Soule b. 5 Nov 1733
  8. Lydia Soule b. c 1736.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 George Soule of the Mayflower and his Descendants for Four Generations. Originally compiled by John E. Soule and Milton E. Terry. Revised by Louise Walsh Throop. Mayflower Families in Progress. Seventh Edition. Plymouth: General Society of Mayflower Descendants, 2015. #122 p 119.
  2. New England Historic Genealogical Society. Vital Records of Dartmouth, Massachusetts, to the Year 1850. Vol 1. Births. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society at the charge of the Eddy Town-Record Fund, 192930. p. 255-p. 258
  3. Monthly meeting records, Men's Minutes 1699 – 1727, Society of Friends, Dartmouth Monthly Meeting (Society of Friends : Dartmouth, N.Y.), p 192.
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 Monthly meeting records, Men's Minutes 1699 – 1727, Society of Friends, Dartmouth Monthly Meeting (Society of Friends : Dartmouth, N.Y.), p 245.
  5. James E. Hazard Index, The Records of New York Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends at Friends Historical Library, Swarthmore College.; Call Number C 733; Volume 1.8; Page 264; ID 146018.
  6. Buck, Clifford M., and William Willis Reese. Dutchess County, NY Tax Lists, 1718-1787. Rhinebeck, N.Y.: Kinship, 19901991. p. 103
  7. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/dutchess/data/heads/
  8. 8.0 8.1 Ridlon, G. T. A contribution to the history, biography and genealogy of the families named Sole, Solly, Soule, Sowle, Soulis : with other forms of spelling, from the eighth century to the present, with notes on collateral families both foreign and American, illustrated with portraits, residential views, monuments and heraldic insignia Vol 2. p. 692 (Lewiston, Me. : Journal press, 1926) https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/005761437
  9. Fernow, Berthold. Calendar of wills on file and recorded in the offices of the Clerk of the Court of Appeals, of the County Clerk at Albany, and of the Secretary of State, 1626-1836 (Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Co. 1967) p. 362
  • Notes on the Quaker Calendar
  • George Soule in Ancient Documents Dutchess County Court of Common Pleas and General Sessions, which began operation in 1721 through 1820.
  • Mayflower Families also cites: Dartmouth Monthly Meetings. Bristol County Land Records 64:575. Bristol County Probate Record 5:373-4. Suffolk County Court Files #35785.

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Clarification of Abigail and Jonathon Ricketson relation: George Soule born 1695, his wife, Lydia Howland Soule (Howland -334), is sister of Abigail Howland Ricketson (Howland-333). Abigail Howland Ricketson is married to Jonathon Ricketson born 1686 (Ricketson-32). This is a Presley, Ricketson, Howland, Soule, Piver, tie in.
posted by Johnny Piver Jr
This George Soule 1695 (Soule-30) is brother to Benjamin Soule 1698 (Soule-977). Benjiman Soule 1698 is 6th Great Grandfather direct line to Johnny W Piver Jr 1950 (Piver-37). George married Lydia Howland 1701 (Howland-334) who is sister to Abigail Howland 1686 (Howland-333) who married Jonathon Ricketson born 1686. Gladys Smith Presley (mother of Elvis Presley) is descendent of the Ricketson tie here. This union of George Soule and Lydia Howland Soule puts Elvis Presley as a descendent of George Soule of Mayflower 1620, Plymouth.
posted by Johnny Piver Jr
The book, Eighteenth Century Documents of the Great Nine Partners Patent published by the Dutchess County Historical Society 1979 summarizes Deeds, Mortgages & Estates related to people in that patent. In it two George Soal/Soules are mentioned. One being a Blacksmith and of Charlotte Precinct and references a mortgage being canceled for property in "Lott 4". This is specific to the Great Nine Patents subdivision.

The other George has him "of Oblong" with a mortgage on Lott 44 500 acres of the Oblong 10 chains north of the 26 mile monument.

This distinction is significant as the Great Nine Partners Patent was established well before the Oblong came into being. The Oblong is a designation of "Equivalent Lands" given to New York by CT as a result of a major boundary dispute between the two states.

There is a long history to the actual precise location of this narrow (less than 2 miles wide (East to West) strip . A Quaker man from Long Island was involved in surveying a portion of it and found the portion he was working to be very favorable for farming so that he brought his family and other Quakers from LI to settle what is now known as Quaker Hill in Pawling, NY. This in turn led to other Quakers coming to the area and into the Nine Partners Patent area. The other favorable aspect of the Oblong lands is that it was not in any other patent (though this was disputed by patentees). Ultimately an OBLONG patent was created as dual (side by side) 500 acre lots (for the most part) going South to North. Thus the land that George mortgaged in the Oblong is very distinct from property in the Nine Partners.

There are maps of both of these in the Dutchess County Clerk's office.

posted by Fred Roe
edited by Fred Roe
Hi Sue, It looks like George got disconnected or was never connected to begin with. I've connected him to his children. There are two that don't belong (to his wife) and I've left messages to disconnect. Thanks for noticing the discrepancy.
posted by Anne B
How do you resolve the different children between husband and wife?

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