The statement of a very complicated marriage dispensation on James Paul, pg 2 is critical for the general establishment of the line between King Robert I and this John Stewart.
"John (Sir), Lord of Lorn in right of his wife (her sister and coheir having married his younger brother Robert, who resigned his share of Lorn in exchange for the lands of Durrisdeer 1388); inherited from father feudal Barony of Innermeath; Ambassador to England and France 1412; married Isabel of Argyll, daughter and coheir of Eoin, Lord of Lorn, Chief of Clan Dougall (heir of the local dynasts of Argyll), and died 26 April 1421.
Robert Stewart; April 1421 succeeded his father as lord of Lorn;[1] m. aft 27 Sep 1397 (date of dispensation) Joan, daughter of Robert Stewart, Duke of Albany; [3] d. bef. 1449.[4][5]
Unknown Stewart, wife of Allan MacDonald, was originally attached to this profile as a daughter of Sir John Stewart.The source cited on Allan MacDonald's profile for Unknown's parentage is here, which actually states that Allan "...married a daughter of John, last lord of lorn and brother of Dugald, lord of Appin." John (subject of this profile) was the first Stewart lord of Lorn; his grandson was the last Stewart lord of Lorn. The only lord of Appin named Dugald was the first lord of that title, who died shortly before 1501. This Dugald does not appear to have a WT profile. If the source being cited is correct, then Unknown could not possibly have been a daughter of (this) John Stewart. Consequently, Unknown is being removed from this profile. Stevens-17832 20:44, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
↑ Douglas Richardson, "Magna Carta Ancestry 1st edition" , Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 2005. p 779. Also "Royal Ancestry", Vol. 5 pp. 40-41
↑ SHS Letter to Pope Benedict XIII, p. 25, cited in MacGregor, Gordon. The Red Book of Scotland. Scotland: by the author (2020), vol. 9, p. 363.
↑ 4.04.1
Weis, Frederick Lewis. The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215. 5th ed. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co. (1999), pp. 57-58 (Line 42-8 and 42A-8).
↑ Cokayne, G.E., ed. The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant. (Gloucester, UK: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000). Online at FamilySearch vol. VIII, page 138.
↑ 6.06.16.26.3 Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. (Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011), vol. IV, page 103, STEWART 8.
↑ Burnett, George (ed). Rotuli Scaccarii Regum Scotorum - The Exchequer Rolls of Scotland. Edinburgh: H.. General Register House (1878), vol. 5, pp. lii-liv.
↑ Paul, Sir James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 1, pp. 440-441.
↑ Burnett, George (ed). Rotuli Scaccarii Regum Scotorum - The Exchequer Rolls of Scotland. Edinburgh: H.. General Register House (1878), vol. 5, p. lxviii, fn.
↑ 10.010.1 MacGregor, Gordon. The Red Book of Scotland. Scotland: by the author (2020) vol. 9, p. 421.
↑ 11.011.1 Stewart, Duncan. A Short Historical and Genealogical Account of the Royal Family of Scotland.... Edinburgh: W. Sands (1739), reprinted by ECCO, p. 183.
↑ Stewart, Duncan. A Short Historical and Genealogical Account of the Royal Family of Scotland.... Edinburgh: W. Sands (1739), reprinted by ECCO, p. 169.
↑ 13.013.1 Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, Salt Lake City: the author (2013), vol. 5, pp. 40 -41 STEWART. 11. Isabel of Lorn.
↑ Rupert-Jones, John A (ed). Rosyth. Dunfermline: A. Romanes (1917), pp. 27, 40.
↑ Paul, Sir James Balfour. The Scots Peerage. Edinburgh: D. Douglas (1904), vol. 3, p. 469.
See Also:
Source: Cawley, Charles. "STEWART of LORN, (Robert Stewart)." Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: Medieval Lands, A Prosopography of Medieval European Noble and Royal Families. Accessed February 13, 2015.Stewart of Lorn
DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with John by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA.
Y-chromosome DNA test-takers in his direct paternal line on WikiTree:
Basil Stewart :
AncestryDNA Paternal Lineage (discontinued) 47 markers, haplogroup R1b, Ancestry member BasilStewart, MitoYDNA ID A10718[compare]
Re: daughter Unknown Stewart wife of Allan MacDonald: According to Reliquiae Celticae: Rory, son of Allan, son of Ranald, assumed the lordship of his father, and of his grandfather, and the daughter of Stuart of Appin was his mother. Allan Cameron, A. (1892). Reliquiae celticae: texts, papers and studies in Gaelic literature and philology. United Kingdom: (n.p.), p 167. Based upon the time in which she lived, Unknow Stewart appears to be the daughter of this Sir John Stewart.
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Many duplications for Isobel Egardia led to me finding a conflict. If she was born 1362, she cannot be the mother of a child born 1366. She is shown being married to at two two men of the same name, but many decades apart. She probably is one of these ladies.
The Coat of Arms for The Stewarts of Lorn is Similar but the Check Quarters are reversed and the red Flags are replaced with "St Andrews Fire"
Source: The Heraldry of the Stewarts by G Harvey Johnston. Published Edinburgh & London MCMVI.