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Rose (Stourton) Bamvile (1200 - aft. 1300)

Rose Bamvile formerly Stourton aka Stockport
Born in Cheshire, Englandmap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
[children unknown]
Died after after age 100 in Cheshire, Englandmap
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Biography

Rose was married twice:[1]

  1. Sir Robert Stockport, who was living in 23 Henry III [1238-39]; with whom she had children:
    1. Sir Robert Stockport;[1]
    2. Margaret, who was the wife of William Vernon, during the time that William Ouresby was Justiciar of Cheshire;[1]
  2. Alexander de Bamvile;[1] with whom she had children, including:
    1. Thomas, oldest son who married Havise, daughter of Robert de Winington;[2]

Alexander's aunt, Joan Kingesley, who was the sister of his mother, Agnes, and the wife of Richard Kingesley, granted Alexander land, which he and his wife, Rose, gave to their first born son, Thomas, and his wife, Hawise, daughter of Robert de Winington: Ego Alexander de Bamuile & Roisa vxor mea. dedimus Thomae filio n'ro primogenito et Hauisa filiae Rob'ti de Winington : Terram meam in villa de p'va Storton, quas Joha'na quae fuit vxor Ric'i Kingesley mihi Alexandro dedit.[2]

The version of this deed given in Helsby's 1882 revision of Ormerod's History of the County Palatine and City of Chester specifies Alexander and Rose gave the property to Thomas and Hawise his wife, daughter of Robert de Winington.[3]

Parva Storeton is one of the myriad of historical names of Storeton, a major settlement in the parish of Bebington, Wirral hundred, Cheshire, England.[4] Joan was a widow by 29 Henry III [1244-5], when at the Palatine Court, Chester, before Sir N de Wilib', Constable of Chester Castle, and Sir Walkelyn de Arderne, an obligation was entered into by the heirs of Richard de Kingslegh, namely William de Seneville, Dame Margery de Cholmondelegh, Randle le Roter and William Lancelyn, to set out full dower for Dame Jane, widow of Richard de Kingslegh, as of her husband's lands. [5]

In the time of Guncelyn de Badlesmere, 1274-1280, a Release by Alexander de Bamville, and Roesia his wife, of all their right, by reason of dower, after the death of Robert de Stokeport, formerly husband of the said Roesia, in the manors of Echeles, Stokeport, Bredburie, Romelegh, and Hatreslegh, was enrolled on the Cheshire Domesday Roll. (F. 34.)[6]

Ralph, son of William de Northwyco, and Sibilla, his wife, made a grant to Alexandro de Baunvile and Reysia, his wife, which was witnessed by: lord Richard de Mascy, Richard de Sandbache, knights, William Launcelyn, William Gerard, Hugh de Thorneton, Hugh del Brom, William de Capenhurst' and others.[7]

On 29 May, 1300, Robert Dovnvile, son of Robert, lord of Dovnvile, leased property in Storeton to Alexander de Baunvile and Roisia, his wife.[8]

Research Notes

Some online family trees show Rose as the wife of Alexander Bamville of Baumville, Warwickshire, daughter of Robert Stourton of Wiltshire and his wife, Agnes of Staffordshire; some also show Rose as the sister of Alexander Sylvester aka Stourton, and therefore born in the first half of the twelfth century.[9]

There is no evidence to support Rose or Alexander being the children of Robert de Stourton son of Botolph in The History Of Modern Wiltshire. Hundred of Mere, by Sir Richard Colt Hoare[10] or the first volume of Charles Botolph Joseph, Lord Mowbray, Segrave and Stourton's The History of the Noble House of Stourton, of Stourton, in the County of Wilts.[11]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Rylands, John Paul, ed., The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580 Made by Robert Glover, Somerset Herald, for William Flower, Norroy King of Arms, with Numerous Additions and Continuations, Including Those from the Visitation of Cheshire Made in the Year 1566, by the Same Herald. With an Appendix, Containing the Visitation of a Part of Cheshire in the Year 1533, made by William Fellows, Lancaster Herald, for Thomas Benolte, Clarenceux King of Arms. And a Fragment of the Visitation of the City of Chester in the Year 1591, Made by Thomas Chaloner, Deputy to the Office of Arms, (London: Harleian Society, XVIII, 1882), 241, e-book Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/visitationofches00glov/page/241/mode/1up : accessed 8 May, 2022). Pedigree: Warren de Pointon, Baron of Stockport.
  2. 2.0 2.1 Rylands, John Paul, ed., The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580 Made by Robert Glover, Somerset Herald, for William Flower, Norroy King of Arms, with Numerous Additions and Continuations, Including Those from the Visitation of Cheshire Made in the Year 1566, by the Same Herald. With an Appendix, Containing the Visitation of a Part of Cheshire in the Year 1533, made by William Fellows, Lancaster Herald, for Thomas Benolte, Clarenceux King of Arms. And a Fragment of the Visitation of the City of Chester in the Year 1591, Made by Thomas Chaloner, Deputy to the Office of Arms, (London: Harleian Society, XVIII, 1882), 212 and 213, e-book Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/visitationofches00glov/page/212/mode/1up : accessed 8 May, 2022). Pedigree: Pro Stanley de Hooton.
  3. George Ormerod, "Containing the Hundreds of Edisbury, Wirral, and Broxton", The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester; Compiled from Original Evidences in Public Offices, the Harleian and Cottonian MSS, Parochial Registers, Private Muniments, Unpublished Ms Collections of Successive Cheshire Antiquaries, and a Personal Survey of Every Township in the County; Incorporated with a Republication of King's Vale Royal, and Leycester's Cheshire Antiquities, 2nd Edition, ed. Thomas Helsby, 3 volumes, (London: George Routledge and Sons, 1882), II:446 and 448, e-book, HathiTrust (https://hdl.handle.net/2027/coo.31924088434042?urlappend=%3Bseq=514%3Bownerid=13510798902306577-608 : accessed 26 May, 2022). Storeton of Storeton.
  4. "Storeton, Great Storeton & Little Storeton, Storeton Grange, Storeton Hall, Storeton Hill, Storeton Lodge & Storeton Quarries," Survey of English Place-Names, accessed 10 May, 2022.
  5. George Ormerod, "Calendar of Such Entries in the Cheshire Domesday Roll as have been Recovered from the Documents Cited," Genealogical Essays Illustrative of Cheshire and Lancashire Families, and a Memoir on the Cheshire Domesday Roll, Compiled from Original Authorities, (1851), 15, e-Book Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/memoironcheshire00orme/page/15/mode/1up : accessed 17 May, 2022). No. 34. (Flower's Visitation of Cheshire: No. 47).
  6. George Ormerod, "Calendar of Such Entries in the Cheshire Domesday Roll as have been Recovered from the Documents Cited," Genealogical Essays Illustrative of Cheshire and Lancashire Families, and a Memoir on the Cheshire Domesday Roll, Compiled from Original Authorities, (1851), 18, e-Book Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/memoironcheshire00orme/page/18/mode/1up : accessed 16 May, 2022). No. 58.
  7. The National Archives Website: Discovery: RYCH - RYLANDS CHARTERS: STORETON (co. Chester): RYCH/1811: Grant by Ralph, son of William de Northwyco, and Sibilla, his wife, to Alexandro de Baunvile and Reysia, his wife, https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/a6cde0ef-ef9e-452b-b7cc-aeedc7278d4c : accessed 26 May, 2022.
  8. The National Archives Website: Discovery: RYCH - RYLANDS CHARTERS: STORETON (co. Chester): RYCH/1810: Lease by Robert Dovnvile, son of Robert, lord of Dovnvile, to Alexander de Baunvile and Roisia, his wife, https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/04c88024-1046-428e-90b1-6b643551be93 : accessed 26 May, 2022.
  9. Various contributors, "Rose Stourton", MyHeritage (https://www.myheritage.com/names/rose_stourton : accessed 26 May, 2022).
  10. Sir Richard Colt Hoare, Bart, The Modern History of South Wiltshire Volume I. Containing I The Hundred of Mere. II The Hundred of Heytesbury, (London: John Bowyer Nichols and John Gough Nichols, 1822), 43-8, e-Book Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/TheHistoryOfModernWiltshireVol1/page/n59/mode/1up : accessed 26 May, 2022). Stourton.
  11. The History of the Noble House of Stourton, of Stourton, in the County of Wilts. Compiled from Original Official Documents, and Other Additional Sources, Under the Instructions and Supervision of Charles Botolph Joseph, Lord Mowbray, Segrave and Stourton. Vol I, (London: Self-published, 1899), e-Book Internet Archive (https://archive.org/details/historyofnobleho01mowb/page/n18/mode/1up : accessed 6 May, 2022).




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The biography suggests that this is the same person as Venables-2
posted by Kevin Tildsley
So Rose was born in Cheshire but her dad was born and died in Wiltshire. She marries a guy who was born and died in Warwickshire and she dies in Cheshire. And her son is born in Hertfordshire and dies in Staffordshire. Don't know what these people did for a living but they sure moved around a lot.
posted by Millard Smith
She was 50 years older than her son, who married two women with her surname ??? Needs amplification or correction, I think.
posted by R. D. Flowers

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