The commonly found statement that she was Elizabeth Bigelow is not accepted.
In 1852, Hinman in his "Early Puritan Settlers of Connecticut" stated that the wife of Richard Butler was named Elizabeth Bigelow.[1] This is a name and an identification which has been repeated many times including in recent sources. All subsequent sources apparently rely ultimately on the simple statement by Hinman as none provide any further evidence or discussion. Based solely on a common name, she is often said to be a sister or close relative of John Bigelow of Watertown. However, no actual supporting evidence has ever been found to support the statement that her LNAB is Bigelow, or that she had any relationship to John Bigelow. When Donald Lines Jacobus examined the problem and wrote on Richard Butler, he stated “We have found nothing to substantiate that she was a Bigelow.”[2] Anderson in his biography of Richard Butler concurred and stated her name is Elizabeth ______.[3] Wikitree is following the conclusions of Jacobus and Anderson unless some primary evidence can be found to show that Elizabeth’s LNAB was or even might possibly be Bigelow.
Birth
Born: About 1616 in England.
The date is an estimate based on her marriage in 1640 and her having children from 1641 to 1656. She is sometimes said to have been born in Wrentham, England, however, this is based on the incorrect belief that she was a sister of John Bigelow.
Marriage and Children
Married: Richard Butler about 1640. The date is an estimate based birth of her son Samuel who is said to have been born about 1641.
The order of birth is not entirely certain, it is generally accepted that the 2 eldest children are from Richard Butler's first marriage to Elizabeth (Unknown) and were raised by Elizabeth Bigelow.[4]
Children of Richard Butler and his firrst unknown wife:
Thomas b. about 1637 at Hartford, d. August 29, 1688 at Hartford, m. 1658 at Hartford to Sarah Stone, 12 children.[5]
Mary b. about 1639, d.September 12, 1689 at Wethersfield, Hartford, Connecticut, m. September 29, 1659 to Samuel Wright[6]
Joseph b. about 1646 at Wethersfield, d. December 10, 1732 at Wethersfield, m. 1) by November 14, 1676 Mary Goodrich;[10] m. 2) after September 6, 1705 to Mary Bushnell, widow of William Miller. 8 children.[11]
Died: 11 September 1691 in Wethersfield, Connecticut.[15][16]
Will: No actual will exists, but a nuncupative will was accepted by the courts during the administration of her estate:
”Butler, Elizabeth. 11 September, 1691. Invt. £101-04-06. Taken by Samuel Butler & Daniel Butler.
”Court Record, Page 34—3d December, 1691: Adms. to Samuel & Daniel Butler. Dist. to her children: Nathaniel, Joseph, Daniel, Samuel Butler, Elizabeth Olmsted, Abigail Butler. Daniel Butler, though a Legatee, made Oath with Mary Butler to the Nuncupative Will of the Deed, that the Estate should be divided equally among her children, and it appearing by the Testimony of Mary Butler that Elizabeth Butler, deed, nere her death did declare that it was her minde that after her death her goods should be equally divided unto her live children, Nathaniel, Joseph, Daniel and Samuel Butler and Elizabeth Olmsted; and Daniel Butler, although he be a legatee, yet affirmed that he heard his Mother say & declare the same as is Testified by Mary Butler, which this Court accepts as the last Will of sayd Elizabeth Butler; onely whereas there is a debt of about Thirteen & fourteen pounds sayd to be due from Thomas Butler, Adms. to his Father’s Estate, and upon his own proper accot, which debt, this Court, with consent of Samuel Butler, Daniel Butler and Joseph Olmsted, doe remit to the sayd Thomas Butler & to his Brethren & Sisters, onely Thomas Butler to have a double portion of it.”[17][18]
Sources
↑ Hinman, Royal R. A Catalogue of the Names of the Early Puritan Settlers of the Colony of Connecticut; with the Time of their Arrival in the Country and Colony... (Hartford, 1852): page 454.
↑ Jacobus, Donald Lines and Nathan Grier Parke. The Ancestry of Lorenzo Ackley & His Wife Emma Arabella Bosworth. (Woodstock, Vt: The Elm Tree Press, 1960): page 141.Ancestry.com Link
↑ Anderson, Robert Charles, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, vol. 1: A - F, (Boston: NEHGS, 1995): page 287. AmericanAncestors.org Link.
#S1, Barbour, Lucius Barnes, 1982, Families of Early Hartford, Connecticut, Genealogical Publishing Co. Inc., Baltimore, Maryland and Connecticut Society of Genealogists, Inc., Glastonbury, Connecticut pp.388
The Goodrich Family in America. A Genealogy of the Descendants of John and William Goodrich of Wethersfield, Conn., Richard Goodrich of Guilford, Conn., and William Goodridge of Watertown, Mass. Lafayette Wallace Case M.D., Author Role: Editor Publication: Fergus Printing Company, Chicago, Illinois, 1889, Second Date, 1984, pg 34
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Elizabeth by comparing test results with other carriers of her mitochondrial DNA.
However, there are no known mtDNA test-takers in her direct maternal line.
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Elizabeth:
Not to bring up a sore subject, but according to the DAR records, the wife of this Richard Butler is Elizabeth Bigelow. This is also listed in the New England Historical Society records as the wife/husband combination. Would this be acceptable to add?
I'm not sure it is a 'sore subject' but more one of the PGM project, based on the research of Donald Jacobus and Robert Anderson, finding that to date the research as noted on the profile does not support the surname Bigelow (see profile and also Joe's note immediately below). Are you finding Bigelow in the verified DAR online database or is that in some of the older printed lineage books?
It is verified on the DAR online database via the Comfort Butler who was the 3rd GGS of Richard Butler and Elizabeth Bigelow. It was also within a SAR application. I'm a member of the DAR and have searched him. I also belong to the NEGS database and they list Elizabeth Bigelow as the spouse of Richard Butler in Massachusetts Marriages to 1700, listed as his 2nd wife.
What is the primary source documentation cited by DAR to support that her LNAB is Bigelow, or that she had any relationship to John Bigelow. Would also need to find the supporting documentation behind the Marriages to 1700 database. I suspect, but cannot say for certain without further research, that the work of Anderson (and probably Jacobus) will be more recent than any sources in the Marriages database. I'm going to click this over to G2G as has been suggested below by Joe Cochoit.
Basically Elizabeth, no it's not acceptable. Submissions to DAR and SAR are from individuals with no special knowledge of 17th century persons. They certainly are not good enough to counter the modern work and opinions of Jacobus and Anderson. Torrey's Massachusetts Marriages to 1700 is also not an acceptable source. Torrey took every available source, both the good and the bad, when compiling his work. So, it is a mix of very useful information and information which has been disproved for over 100 years; it contains 1000's of errors. Torrey should be used as a guide, and you have to check all of his underlying sources to determine where the information came from.
To change the name to Bigelow we need some evidence from a primary/contemporary source that the name might be true.
@Elizabeth - I am intrigued by your comment. When I have searched DAR GRS database, I have never been able to see earlier generations than the patriot; is there a special way to find ancestors of patriots?
We are not stealing a genealogy, we are correcting a single unproven LNAB. Even if her LNAB was Bigelow, she would still have no known ancestry.
We are not using Find A Grave. We are using Donald Lines Jacobus and Charles Anderson, perhaps the two most prominent genealogists of the last 100 years.
If you have any primary evidence to support any LNAB we would be happy to see it. It would be best if this discussion was taken to G2G where any evidence or lack there of can be fully discussed.
I see no reference to find-a-grave on this profile. And there is no wikitree requirement that only direct descendants can work on profiles. And whether one is a descendant or not, it's our collective responsibility to find the most accurate records to support the data on any profile on wikitree.
I also do not understand how someone outside of a family can come in and simply steal a genealogy, based on their sources. 'Find a Grave' is the worst. Someone, not related to the deceased simply comes in to steal a deceased person's history. That is very very weird.
It's not mythology and it's not stubbornness. It's a simple analysis of the sources and the quality of the sources which tell us her LNAB is unknown.
Elizabeth's LNAB does not need to be proven with absolutely certainty, but there needs to be some record and some analysis of the records which suggests that her LNAB could with reasonable probability be Bigelow. So far we have no reason at all to think this is true.
G Gaffney, we assess the accuracy of any source by what records it cites or the strength of its evidence analysis. Unfortunately, the Bigelow Society's web page offers neither record citations nor evidence analysis. Each of the other sources you provided needs to be examined as well for what it is they cite, or the case they make for her being a Bigelow.
About 1642, Richard remarried, ELIZABETH BIGELOW. She was born about 1606, in Suffolk County, England. The Bigelow Society lists her as a daughter of Randall & Jane Baguley, but does state that she may have been a cousin of John Bigelow, the Emigrant.
@R250642311@ North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000 Ancestry.com Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. 1,61157::0 Book Title: Peabody Genealogy 1,61157::4002039
6. Charles Edwin Booth. 1910. One Branch of the Booth Family Showing the Lines of Connection with One Hundred Massachusetts Bay Colonists. Self-published, New York. [Even though self-published, the book is heavily documented, although the source citations are woefully incomplete.] On p. 114:
Deacon Richard Butler came from Braintree, Essex County, Eng. He was at Cambridge 1632, but settled in Hartford about 1640. He was b. in Eng. d. Aug. 6, 1684, in Hartford. m. first, ___ Banbury? m. second, Elizabeth Bigelow (probably a sister of John Bigelow of Watertown, Mass.), about 1642. b. ___ d. Sept. 11, 1691. Richard Butler was Deacon of the First Church in Hartford. Selectman 1648, 1649, 1654, 1658. Deputy 1643, 1644, 1648, 1656 to 1660.
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To change the name to Bigelow we need some evidence from a primary/contemporary source that the name might be true.
Thank you, S
We are not using Find A Grave. We are using Donald Lines Jacobus and Charles Anderson, perhaps the two most prominent genealogists of the last 100 years. If you have any primary evidence to support any LNAB we would be happy to see it. It would be best if this discussion was taken to G2G where any evidence or lack there of can be fully discussed.
Elizabeth's LNAB does not need to be proven with absolutely certainty, but there needs to be some record and some analysis of the records which suggests that her LNAB could with reasonable probability be Bigelow. So far we have no reason at all to think this is true.
I believe that you should listen to the descendants of the people in question, rather than exert control.
The fact is that you have no DNA which would prove positive one way or another. Until then we all believe in our own mythologies.
Unless someone comes up with a wedding photo :-)
Until then, it is obvious stubborness rules.
http://bigelowsociety.com/rod/john2.htm
About 1642, Richard remarried, ELIZABETH BIGELOW. She was born about 1606, in Suffolk County, England. The Bigelow Society lists her as a daughter of Randall & Jane Baguley, but does state that she may have been a cousin of John Bigelow, the Emigrant.
@R250642311@ North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000 Ancestry.com Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. 1,61157::0 Book Title: Peabody Genealogy 1,61157::4002039
Deacon Richard Butler came from Braintree, Essex County, Eng. He was at Cambridge 1632, but settled in Hartford about 1640. He was b. in Eng. d. Aug. 6, 1684, in Hartford. m. first, ___ Banbury? m. second, Elizabeth Bigelow (probably a sister of John Bigelow of Watertown, Mass.), about 1642. b. ___ d. Sept. 11, 1691. Richard Butler was Deacon of the First Church in Hartford. Selectman 1648, 1649, 1654, 1658. Deputy 1643, 1644, 1648, 1656 to 1660.