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Richard (Franceys) de Vernon (1267 - abt. 1296)

Sir Richard "of Nether Haddon" de Vernon formerly Franceys
Born in Nether Haddon,Bakewell,Derbyshire, Englandmap
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Died about at about age 29 in Nether Haddon, Bakewell, Derbyshire, Englandmap
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Disambiguation: This Richard de Vernon, who was first known as Richard de Franceis or Franceys, and who married Isabel de Harcla, is not to be confused with Richard de Vernon who married Margaret Vipont.

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Biography

Hawise Vernon married Gilbert le Francis and their son Richard, took the name of Vernon and died at the age of 29 in 1296. He is the common ancestor of the Vernons of Haddon, Stoksesay, Hodnet, and Sudbury.[1] Richard m. the da. of Michael de Hartcla and they had a son Richard wo m. Eleanor Fenes da. of Giles Fenes of Pitchcott Manor.[2]

Marriage

Richard le Franceis (or Francys) married Isabel the daughter of Michael de Harcla (aka Hartley lineage), she being at the time a ward of the king, her father being deceased. [3]

Note from Matthew Connolly

I have a bit of information on the Harcla (Hartley) family since the name is often found in association with the Viponts.

"Richard le Franceis, son of Gilbert, son of Philip, who in 1257 had a grant of free warren in Westmoreland and Cumberland, who was the son of John le Fraunceys to whom Robert de Vipont had confirmed the whole of Mauld's Meaburn, married a daughter of Michael de Harcla. In 1278, the king seised the lands of Michael de Harcla until it shall appear by what right and title Richard le Fraunceis son and heir of Gilbert le Fraunceis married the daughter of Michael de Harcla, being then the king's ward." [4]
The Richard le Franceis who married the Harcla daughter (Isabel) was the one also known as Vernon, and was progenitor of the subsequent Vernons of Haddon; I have him down as son of Gilbert (who married Hawise de Vernon), son of Adam, son of Hugh, who was perhaps son of another Adam (c.1200), in turn perhaps son of Robert (c.1180). I'll dig out the exact reference over the weekend, but it's the CWAAS Transactions again (a long article on the family, and a later corrigendum).
Trans. Cumberland & Westmorland A & AS New Series vol XII (1912) for Rev FW Ragg's long article 'Maud's Meaburn and Newby: de Veteripont, le Franceys and de Vernon'; chart p.393 summarises as I stated above but with Gilbert as son of John le Fraunceys, baron of exchequer (d. 1267). Trans CWAAS NS XVI 167-8 corrects this to make Gilbert son of Adam (and nephew of John) in light of a recently rediscovered deed.

Sources

  1. Magna Britannia: Volume 5, Derbyshire p. 23-43
  2. Parishes : Pitchcott, A History of the County of Buckingham: Volume 4. pp. 89-91
  3. The History and Antiquities of the Counties of Westmoreland and Cumberland
  4. The History and Antiquities of the Counties of Westmoreland and Cumberland

See also:

  • The History and Antiquities of the Counties of Westmoreland and Cumberland, Joseph Nicholson and Richard Burns. Cited by Matthew Connolly at Gen Medieval.




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The LNAB for Sir Richard should be Franceys. He changed his name to de Vernon.[1]
posted by Kirk Hess
UPDATE:

Tip from Darlene Athey Hill: This Richard Vernon is a separate person from Vernon-695. Margaret Vipont was added incorrectly as wife to this Richard Vernon-279, who married Isabel de Harcla. Text and sources are added to differentiate the two Richards now. Thank you Darlene!

Francyes-1 and Vernon-279 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, parents, spouse, and approx. dates
Francyes-1 and Vernon-695 appear to represent the same person because: Richard Francyes became Richard Vernon, taking his mother's surname. These duplicates are married to the same woman, and those duplicates also need to be merged.

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