It has been suggested that Richard Warren was the son of Anthony Warren, but this is only speculative. Other possibilities for Richard's father are discussed at this website. He could be a grandson of Sir Laurence Warren. NOTE: Apparently, this website has disappeared.
Richard Warren was born in Cambridgeshire, England.
Richard Waller was probably from Long Stowe originally, probably born about 1501, and later lived in Bassingbourn, Cambridgeshire, England.[1]
According to TAG 58:166ff, Richard Waller/Warren wrote a will 28 mar 1557 in Bassingbourn, Cambridgeshire, England, in which he named wife Alice and children. Wife Alice is almost certainly Alice Jenaway.[1] From this and from the wills of his named children, it can be surmised that Richard and Alice had the following children:[1]
Family name also known as WALLER or WARREN als WALLER or WALLER als WARREN.
of Bassingbourn; will 28 Mar 1557:
Archdeaconry of Ely.
Richarde Warren otherwysse called Waller, of Bassingborne, county Cambridge [dated 28 March 1557, proved 2 May 1557, Archdeaconry of Ely]... sycke in bodye...
my sonne the howse whiche I nowe dwell in w't all the londe & pastuore be longynge... londe somtymes called... John Asshwells except one called Bandall... also A closse called french brydge closse... & also rowses mede... and iiij acres of brodlande & ij beasts & a horse for them w'ch I had borrowed of hym & also my lease of burye yearde... sayed Rycharde my sonne both my cupbords in the hall A forme ij chayers [= chairs] & to buffet stoles & my maser [large drinking bowl of hard wood, often footed and silver mounted]...
Nycolas my sonne my mesuage at goose styll w't v Roods of lond belongyne to yt & a halfe yearde londe w't a messuage called Willimoth buttynge uppon Walton grene...
Henrye my sonne my howse at sene[?] end...
Alce my doughter x[pounds]... also a garnysshe of peuter of the pryce of iiijs iiijd & also my white face cowe th't latlye calved & a fether bede a materis a bolster a coverlett a payer of shets & ij pillowes w't the bers...
my wife my howse called atkynsons w'ch castell now dwelleth in w't acers londe in the ocupienge of the sayed castell dwerynge the terme of hir lyffe...
Henry my sonne v[pounds]...
Augerye Waren the sayed Henrs davghter xxxiijs iiijd...
Alce my wyffe Richarde my soone & nicolas my sonne all my goods movable... [and] executors...
Will'm Waren the sonne of Will'm Waren the elder to be supvisor.
Sources
↑ 1.01.11.2 Myrtle Stevens Hyde, Ancestors of Nathaniel Foote--Warren Line, TAG 58(1982):165-167, available at americanancestors.org
↑ "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JC9H-K99 : 10 February 2018), Richard Waller in the entry for Alice, burial 27 Sep 1626; citing England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,471,811.
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This is a very beginner question, as I just found my own links to this line. Can anyone give a quick explanation as to why Waller and Warren are both considered the legitimate last names for this family line? I see no history of the name irregularity that makes sense to me. Is it a place name, occupational name, or corruption of a foreign name?
Hello profile managers, I noticed that Anthony Warren was detached as the father of Richard. I am notifying you so that if this was an error you can reattach him.
re: Father of Richard. Anthony Warren is not of Poynton or a son of Laurence. I have seen no evidence of anyone existing.
However, there is Anthony Warren of Fifield who was dead by May 11, 1574, who was the father of William born 1562.
"Description: Short title: Warren v Baker. Plaintiffs: William Warren of Fifhide [Fifield, parish of Enford], Wiltshire, esq, aged 12, son of Anthony Warren deceased, by Thomas Mychelborne, gent, and Alice his wife, his mother and guardian.
Defendants: Henry Baker and Jane his wife, widow of Richard Warren deceased. Subject of decree: Possession of a messuage called Kepnell and lands called Brode Mede in Pewsey, Wiltshire. Date of decree: 11 May 16 Eliz. Date: 1574 May 11. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C13447612
Since there is not proof of Richard Warren's ancestors, can you please remove Anthony Warren as his father? It messes up Wikitree's relationship finder for myself and every other descendent of Richard Warren. Thanks for your help on this!
I saw a reference to a possible G2G. Where is it? Let's recap.
Motive: Boris Johnson - August 2019 chart from NEHGS - shows Robert Foote and Joan Brooke.
... there was some discussion about the subject, that seemed to be missing ... www.talktalk.co.uk has moved (or it was just a reference) to
this discussion by Wallers of Tipperary.
Are Waller-3480 and Warren-47 the same person? Given they have the same wife and died in the same year and place and the alternate name for Richard Warren was
Waller, they might be ..Some pre-1500 certified member needs to check it out...
Warren-8329 and Warren-47 may not represent the same person because:
Agreed that the two Richards seem to be the same person. Same Alice Jenawaye wife, same Helen (Foote) daughter. Dates of birth/baptism are out 20 years, but they are approx anyway.
However Richard was the son of William, not Anthony.
The link from Anthony to the Poynton Warrens (Sir Laurence) has puzzled all sorts of researchers for a long time and is a guess.
So, if we merge Warren-8329 to Warren-47 and leave the descent from Anthony I dont think it will not add to our understanding of the genealogy.
Warren-8329 and Warren-47 appear to represent the same person because: These two profiles would appear to be the same person, based on name and wife's name and approximate dates.
Warren-10946 and Warren-47 appear to represent the same person because: These two profiles would appear to be the same based on name and wife's name. Please merge
Per the existing "disputed parents" section, it seems appropriate to disconnect his alleged parents; I'll be doing some cleanup, and others are welcome to weigh in.
Please note: It mentions the sources of the supposed theories. I did not check to see if those source links are viable.
However, there is Anthony Warren of Fifield who was dead by May 11, 1574, who was the father of William born 1562.
"Description: Short title: Warren v Baker. Plaintiffs: William Warren of Fifhide [Fifield, parish of Enford], Wiltshire, esq, aged 12, son of Anthony Warren deceased, by Thomas Mychelborne, gent, and Alice his wife, his mother and guardian. Defendants: Henry Baker and Jane his wife, widow of Richard Warren deceased. Subject of decree: Possession of a messuage called Kepnell and lands called Brode Mede in Pewsey, Wiltshire. Date of decree: 11 May 16 Eliz. Date: 1574 May 11. https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C13447612
There is also a Richard Warren of Pewsey, Wiltshire, gent. living in 1567 https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14515894
edited by Jason Quick
Motive: Boris Johnson - August 2019 chart from NEHGS - shows Robert Foote and Joan Brooke.
... there was some discussion about the subject, that seemed to be missing ... www.talktalk.co.uk has moved (or it was just a reference) to this discussion by Wallers of Tipperary.
See the "Visitation of Cheshire" at page 242. Richard's supposed grandfather Lawrence Warren was the son of John Warren and Isabel Stanley.
Let the discussions continue, such as those at the Profile of Helen (Warren) Foote and her son Robert.
Waller, they might be ..Some pre-1500 certified member needs to check it out...
Agreed that the two Richards seem to be the same person. Same Alice Jenawaye wife, same Helen (Foote) daughter. Dates of birth/baptism are out 20 years, but they are approx anyway. However Richard was the son of William, not Anthony. The link from Anthony to the Poynton Warrens (Sir Laurence) has puzzled all sorts of researchers for a long time and is a guess. So, if we merge Warren-8329 to Warren-47 and leave the descent from Anthony I dont think it will not add to our understanding of the genealogy.