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William White (1603 - 1673)

William White
Born in Derbyshire, Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married about 1629 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 70 in Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
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The Puritan Great Migration.
William White migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Great Migration (Series 2), by R. C. Anderson, vol. 7, p. 351)
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Contents

Biography

Avoid Mistaken Identity--This is not the William White (1587 - 1621) of the Mayflower, nor of his descendant, William White (abt.1683-bef.1780), whose wife was Elizabeth Cadman.

Birth Discussion:

  • 1600‐1610 – Born sometime in these years. Nothing is known about his birth or parentage and no reasonable deductions are possible from the available evidence. Although he is associated with London this does not mean that he was born there – inward migration to London has always been very heavy.
  • 1620s – possibly living in London by this time and associated with the Dutch/English inventor Cornelis Drebbel and his sons‐in‐law the Kuffler brothers.

William White was born about 1603 in England. He married Elizabeth (Unknown) White. He died 30 Oct 1673 in Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts.

William White [1] BIRTH 1603 England

Birth BET 1600 AND 1610 England[1] Death: Exact date of death uncertain. Will was signed October 13, 1673 with Suffolk Probate Office, and Inventory of Estate was provided December 30, 1673. Death occurred between those two dates.[1][2][3]

William White [4]

DEATH 30 Oct 1673 (aged 69–70)

Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts, USA BURIAL Body lost or destroyed MEMORIAL ID 65050352 A bricklayer, William worked at the Iron Works in Lynn MA for a time, but his work took him to other areas of New England. In Feb 1655 he was residing in Warwick, Kent Co RI and on 17 Oct 1656, he was granted a house lot adjoining his son-in-law "...Benjamine Herndell". In Feb 1657, he was granted a share for his "meddow" near another son-in-law, Thomas Walling [aka Wallen].


Marriage:

  • 1629 – Marriage of William White to Elizabeth Jackson at St Gregory by St Paul’s in London. While this is a conjecture it is the best match to the known facts of any marriage record found. Their daughter Elizabeth was married by 1647 which makes a date of 1629 fairly credible. Elizabeth is often mistakenly identified as Elizabeth Cadman which is incorrect – there was an Elizabeth Cadman who married a William White, but at a much later date.
  • 1630s –probably living in London for most of this time. Associated with the antinomian preacher John Everard and the writer Gabriel Plattes. Worked as a furnace maker with many customers among alchemists, brewers, dyers, soap‐makers and other trades using heat. Assisted Everard in alchemical projects. Probably a peripheral member of the “Hartlib Circle” which included Plattes and Robert Child

Marriage Wife William White. Marriage 19 JAN 1629. St Gregory's by St Paul's, London England[2]

Births of children – c1630 – Elizabeth c1633 – William c1635 – Margaret c1637 – Ursula c1640 – Susanna c1643 – Isaac

William White[5][2][6][7]

Immigration

First 3 children born in England, Elisabeth, William & Margaret. Ursula b. 1639 is born in Providence, RI. Thus immigration must be after 1635 and before 1639.

He migrated from England on the Increase. The Increase left London, England April 1635 with her master, Robert Lea, arriving in Massachusetts Bay.

The Increase left London, England April 1635 with her master, Robert Lea, arriving in Massachusetts Bay. Wlliam White was listed as as number 48[8]

Increase sources: Hotten P of Q pg 55,57,58,60,61,64-66 http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/increase1635.shtml http://www.winthropsociety.org/ships/increase.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20110216073611/http://www.allcensus.com/original_lists_051.htm (archived site) http://english-america.com/spls/635ne011.html#Increase https://web.archive.org/web/20030709050442/http://www.calaisalumni.org/Maine/ships.htm#Increase (archived site)

At New England

The Petition of William White to the Honourable Court of Assistants and Deputys of the General Court at Boston Humbly sheweth that whereas he hath bin by this Court fined the sum of foure pounds for Drawing and selling beere to some few travellers who pass by his house towards Taunton, by virtue of an order lately made by the Court … none should draw it without a license. He humbly Desireth that this fine be taken off, he being a very poore man, not offending willfully, but being a stranger, was totally ignorant of this law, noe notice being given to him by any man, and further his intentions being only to brew a little small beere, for the collyers and other workmen about the Ironworks, which he with much difficulty hath done, being destitute of necessary things for the purpose, without which the workmen would not so comfortably proceed in their workes – and he shall endeavour to shew himself thankful, and always pray for your health and prosperitys. William White The copy of this in the Library of the Massachusetts Historical Society incorrectly dates it as 1645. A more likely date is 1647.

To the Right worshipfull mr. wentrupp Governor of newe Ingland at his house at Boston These presente RIGHT WORSHIPFULL SUR, my humble seruice Remembered first to yourselfe major Endicott mr. Downinge mr. John wentrupe and whosoeuer hath wished my good: with hartie thanks for all your louinge kindnesses, first I desire pardon that I did not personally take my leaue of your worshipe and some other of my good frinds but mr. Rainsford can showe that acidentall hast was the cause, for I lost allsoe 10s that my landlords sonn is to haue of Goodman allen that tooke my house, only for his good will a very vnjust thinge. Goodman beettfeeld tooke the house for me and can certifie that I haue made the house tennantable and saleable that the landlord yeelded for as good as lost. if goodman beettfeeld Recouer it I desire it may be giuen to the poorre: and not giuen to them that need it not: nor hath Right to it. I dessire to give your worship a touch of the Causes of my passage howe first I was promised 5s a day by doctor Child for myselfe and my sonn and 2 Cows and house Rent fre and land for me and all my Chilldren; alsoe Couenants for the same. but the deffered the Couenants and I never had them nor performance: to my great losse: and if you knowe all a greater losse to the cou[ena]ntor. I should haue come over about the tym that mr. John wentrupp cam ouer: if I had the Iron myns of newe ingland had been tryed with less Cost, for I tryed most of the myns in Derbesharre with a bloome harth: I told mr. doctor Child more of the nehaunt myne then I can now spick of. For most parte of the York myns the lye at the day and are partly cutt from there life: and the speritt of feusion and sollidditie is not in them. but the swompe myne is liuing and good. great Riches concer[n]inge whit glass and 2 other things not to be spoken of are within 4 myles of boston: more at large I will write when it shall please god that I write the good news from bermoodos and what I porfitt there you shall suerly knowe: and howe I prosper: it may please god I may se you next springe for there is greate things for me to doe. the second Cause is longe strong winter, 3 Cause, the base dissastor of strong Furnals wife against my poore harmless wiffe: 4thly the Contrie pay is bad to get when a poore man hath earned it that it coms to little or nothing, 5. being none remember all things prevaile against me, 6. I se such hard dealinge with shop keepers both in price waight and measure and the that profese much, and alsoe such sewinge one another in Courts that I thinke loue is wantinge, which is the maine key of Religon for without loue it is nothinge more I haue to say but not at this time. soe with my hartie prayers for this Contre, and the good prechinge and all your healths wealths and prospeties I begg pardon for my boldnes. I leaue your worship and all the rest to the protextion of the allmighti god and Rest your humble seruant to comand WILLIAM WHITE from aboard the Returne this 24 July or 5 month 1648

Right Worshipfull Sirr I most humbly salute you : your wife & family. I am thorough Gods mercie come to new england : with full intent to live near you = when this ship was at bermudos ? said she were bound for Rod yland = I thinking peaquot had not been above 10 or 12 myles of I made more than ordinarie hast to come with them thinking I should have got to you : but we mistook a landmark & fell behind Long island & was 3 weeks = & a week at Rod Yland & a week at Warweek & so be means of some that had heard of me & some that knewe me told me it was to near winter : & that peaquott was a savage barren place : & soe perswaded me to sit down there & to get wood in tyme & many told me that they would send up woode = and I offered 12s = to any that would carry my letters = chiefly because Mr Barklay hath written to you earnestly for some smal boltheads which he sayed you can help him to : & what other busines I knowe not : but he was very desyrus to have an answer by this ships Returne = which if She had not been frozen in could not have been = but as yet tis possible he may = Mr Williams hath letters of publike businese to send to peakquott & hath had my letters near 2 months but about 10 days since the were not gon which greaved me very? because Mr berkle his answer conserned me much : for I had left a mill & other goods for hast behynd me : which if I doe his busines he will doe myne = I have written at large of mynes: of pott ashe : of stilling : of bakinge : of stoues for winter = stoues for swetting the sick ? ? : of salt works & baking biskets : & many other things = but I omit some that I will not trust in paper that will be a benifltt to all parts of the world chiefly england : I have known much money spent on it = & could have done it long since but I have brought many things to pass & have been cossened of them but you I dare trust : for I commit you & yours & all busines that tends to the glory of God & good of a common wealth to God’s protection ?? to my power William Whit I will keep my selfe son setled till I hear from you = if you send ? ? downe speedyly it will give him honest comfort : because of coming in Sumer sessone condition ? enough to plant provision if need be = from Warweek this 14 of 12 month 1654

From fishers yland Right Worshipfull Sir We being very glad of quick & safe Returne doe all humbly Remember us unto you = & doe by these give you notice of our proceedings = that weeke you wente the Rambl (?) was sent to Mistick Ilande which by Reason of Cross Wynds was wholly spent = & the next weeke 4 days about the other Rambos (?) = & the other 2 days we Removed the salt housed and Rased (?) it = & in the absens (?) I cleaned & made a brick plan (?) & began to make bricks = much other worke as parting of Rambos (?) ? &? hath been by us all very carfully done we have allsoe fitted our sythes & haye tooles & they have mowed : & we have made this weeke aboute 5 loades of good haye : being sony wather full of oportunities the wante some rye or Wheate to micx? bread tho Indean corn is for choys that by Reason of waste it is certanlye less proffittable for you & them: as soon as bricks is ready I will make a brick oven & for my ? familyl would desire your Worship if you have non to ? to goodman ? to sende me a bushall of wheat meale & I will? him good pay or ells wheat ? of some of his neighbours mr Cob? xxx had your? mill it would save us some journeys & all for some meal xxx other common? I want shoos for my boys chiefly for as the fall on the ? while? helpe to make haye the ? &? [rest of the page is indecipherable] William White As for help to make haye if I mend (?) well we shall need none = unlesse you can send enough that I and my boyes might be wholly employed in making bricks and then I will offer you no? = and when your Worship can get me some constant helpe I make no question but to doe good of brickmaking till ? can be had — I have digged 2 or 3 places on the rock & at last I have found good fresh watter = & the are very glad for the wattering of? & other cattell was somewhat troublesome other things I might speake of but I will trouble you no more at present

Occupation' "It is said that he hath skill in most worcks> Many of ours have thoughts of trying his skill about a new bridge at Providence, and he hath promised to come over to us to consult, but the weather has hindered.". Roger Williams to J. Winthrop, Jr. 15 FEB 1655. Providence County, Rhode Island, USA.[2]

Residence Purchases home on Essex Street. 21 MAR 1664. Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts. [7]

Occupation: On Fishers Island making bricks in preparation for John Winthrop, Jrs. planned settlement. JUL 1656. Fishers Island, Suffolk, New York, USA. [6][2] Begins working with John Winthrop Jr and William Berkeley of Bermuda on projects. 1648 Boston Suffolk,Massachusetts. [7][2]

Mentioned in Samuel Hartlib's Ephemerides. 1643 London, Middlesex, , England. [2]

Leaves for Bermuda. 24 JUL 1648. Boston Harbor, Suffolk, Massachusetts. [7][6][9]

Arrives in New England to begin working on projects with John Winthrop, Jr. 14 FEB 1655. Providence RI.[7][2]

Emigration: Works for Robert Child (1645) in New England Ironworks; Richard Leader at Saugus Iron Works (1646-1648); Robt Starkey, Maj John Endicott setting up distillery. 1645 Boston Suffolk,Massachusetts. [2][6] Died 30 DEC 1673. Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA. Buried Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts, USA.

Family

William White [10]

mentioned in the record of Cornelius White Name William White gender Male Wife Elizabeth Son Cornelius White Other information in the record of Cornelius White from Massachusetts Births and Christenings Name Cornelius White Gender Male Birth Date 07 Jan 1646 Birthplace BOSTON,SUFFOLK,MASSACHUSETTS Father's Name William White Mother's Name Elizabeth

On 17 Feb 1659, son-in-law Benjamin was involved with authorities for his "...breach of peace and fright, Comitted on the family of william white, of this Towne." About 1665, William's daughter, Mrs Margaret Colwell, ran away with her married neighbor Thomas Walling [aka Wallen], whom she later married.
By Oct 1662, William had settled again in Boston, buying a house from Nathaniel Woodward. [Suffolk Deeds, 7:110] The house was located on land belonging to the town, which required William to pay rent until the land was granted ownership to him in Mar 1669/70.
In William's Will, written 13 Oct 1673 and proved 31 Jan 1674, he left to his wife and children:

"...all my vissable estate so long as she was a widowe and to have her thirds if she remarried; two Sonnes Isaacke & Cornelius White; two sonnes & 1 daughter Susanna Waggett, wife of Thomas Waggett after the decease of wife; to son William White 5 shillings... to other 3 daughters, Elyzabeth Harnden, wife of Benjamyne... Margaret Wallen, wife of Thomas Wallen, and Usrulla Bennett, the wife of John Bennett each 4 shillings."

In Dec 1676, the widow Elizabeth White signed a document in Suffolk Co MA:

"Elizabeth White of Boston, relict of William White late of Boston, deeded for love etc. to her Son Cornelius White that part of land which his father (bequeathed to him) excepting the house wherein I dwell which is his after my decease and which I reserve to my Selfe during my life."

Sons of the American Revolution:

Name: William White SAR Membership: 11272 Death Date: 1673 Death Place: England, Boston, Massachusetts Spouse: Elizabeth White Children: Cornelius White

Will (Suffolk Co MA PR 7:343)

The American Genealogist, Vol. 62 p. 198 The American Genealogist, Vol. 73 p. 96 (this issue corrected name from Benjamin White to William White).

Research Notes

Died Boston. William White who died late in 1673 in Boston existed and is well documented in recent studies. Please the profile. -- Andrew White, April 2, 2015

Further Notes. A belated thanks for the material on Dr. Charles via Steve Sandford. I contacted him and he gave me Bruce White,s e-mail address in New Zealand. I have been working with Bruce since. \par \par It turns out that the William White I have been working with is the wrong one.Bruce sent me a copy of a letter that a William White wrote to John Winthrop Jr. from aboard the ship Return in Boston harbor in 1645 while preparing to sail for Bermuda. This William White names his children in letter,the same ones as stated in the will that I have so that seems to be vety good proof that this is the correct William White not the one who came with Philemon Dalton in 1635. \par \par This new William is an inventor, an expert in building furnaces for smelting iron ore, with high reputation for building the same in England and New England. He also delved in alchemy. It is not known who his parents are or where he came from in England, but he apparently came from Fulham in the south part of London when he came to NE. in1645. He left Boston in1649 for Bermuda, staying there untill he moved to Warwick RI.In 1656, and then to Providence and was back in Boston by 1662 of a little before.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/65050352/william-white: accessed 30 May 2023), memorial page for William White (1603–30 Oct 1673), Find A Grave: Memorial #65050352; Burial Details Unknown; Maintained by Bonnie's Daughter (contributor 47137929). (No gravestone.)
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.8 White & Woodward, "A Most Exquisite Fellow" Details of William's Immigration in 1645 and employment to his death in 1673
  3. Ancestry.com U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970 Volume: 57; SAR Membership Number: 11272
  4. "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991,"
  5. Ancestry.com London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812. London Metropolitan Archives, St Gregory by St Paul, Composite register: baptisms 1627 - 1651/2, marriages 1627 - 1635/6, burials 1627 - 1659/60, P69/GRE/A/01/MS010232, P69/GRE/A/002/MS10232
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 Bruce D. White "Timeline of William White", private file in possession of Andrew White
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 Thwing Collection. Transcription onto index cards of wills and deeds of early Boston William White granted the land on which his house now stands . . . on Essex Street. Named are wife Elizabeth, children Isaac, Cornelius, William, Susanna, Elizabeth, Margaret, Ursula File
  8. Ann Stevens, Packrat-Pro
  9. Ancestry.com London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812. London Metropolitan Archives, St Gregory by St Paul, Composite register: baptisms 1627 - 1651/2, marriages 1627 - 1635/6, burials 1627 - 1659/60, P69/GRE/A/01/MS010232, P69/GRE/A/002/MS10232
  10. "Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915,"

See also--

  • Thwing Index # 18659 & 18660. Boston, MA: Inhabitants and Estates of the Town of Boston, 1630-1822 (Thwing Collection). Inhabitants and Estates of the Town of Boston, 1630–1800 and The Crooked and Narrow Streets of Boston, 1630–1822. CD-ROM. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2014.).
  • Ancestral chronological record of the William White family from 1607 to 1608-1895 Archive.org
  • Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.pdf. George Starkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. William taught furnace making to the young George Starkey in Boston.
  • Hartley, E.N. Ironworks on the Saugus: The Lynn and Braintree Ventures of the Company of Undertakers of the Ironworks in New England. Norman, Oklahoma: University of Oklahoma Press, 1957.
  • Holman, Winifred Lovering. The William White Descent. Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1946.

Newman, William R, and Lawrence Principe. Alchemy Tried in the Fire: Starkey, Boyle, and the Fate of Helmontian Chymistry. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2002.

  • White, B.D., and W. W. Woodward. "" A Most Exquisite Fellow"—William White and an Atlantic World Perspective on the Seventeenth‐Century Chymical Furnace." Ambix 54, no. 3 (2007): 285‐98. Available from http://hdl.handle.net/10179/666
  • Will of William White
  • "William White: A Most Exquisite Fellow", Bruce D. White, Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand and Walter W. Woodward, University of Connecticut, 2007.
  • White, B. D.; Woodward, W. W. (2007). "A most exquisite fellow" — William White and an Atlantic world perspective on the seventeenth-century chymical furnace. Ambix. Vol. 54, No. 3, pp. 285-298 http://hdl.handle.net/10179/666 http://dx.doi.org/10.1179/174582307X237065  : 2007. Correctly identifies William White, ca 1600-1610 to 1673, husband of Elizabeth Jackson, father of Cornelius White I, et al
See Also:
  • MediaUS Sons of the American Revolution Membership App-1.jpg. U.S., Sons of the American Revolution Membership Applications, 1889-1970. 11814, 5:48:41 PM. Volume: 57; SAR Membership Number: 11272.
  • Wm White to John Winthrop 1(1).jpg. Wm White to John Winthrop 1. 7211648 William writes to John Winthrop, Jr. about his leaving for Bermuda to work with William Berkeley. John Davis MSS, 1.29 Collections, IV. 198-200. Massachusetts Historical Society.
  • mro.massey.ac.nz/handle/10179/666
  • William White, an alchemist was associated with noted European alchemists and John Winthrop, Jr.
  • "William White: A Timeline", Bruce D. White
  • "Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915," database, FamilySearch [1]: 10 February 2018), William White in entry for Cornelius White, 07 Jan 1646; citing BOSTON,SUFFOLK,MASSACHUSETTS, ; FHL microfilm 397,042.
  • "England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch [2] : 8 March 2018), William White in entry for Elizabeth White, burial 30 Oct 1637; citing Penn, Buckingham, England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,999,460.




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Derbyshire Parish registers are on ancestry.com now - one indexed entry:

William White Gender Male Baptism Date 24 Feb 1596 Baptism Place Heanor, Derbyshire, England Father Jhon White Mother not given. By subscription - Image 12 https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/2387882:61407?_phsrc=Msl2&_phstart=successSource&gsfn=william&gsln=white&ml_rpos=1&queryId=cf7831384b90fd9dbbc2130ff4278bcc

posted by Beryl Meehan
It appears that reference that he was a Quaker was incorrect. I cannot determine through the many sources I referenced where I got this information. It does appear however that he became a Baptist rather than a Quaker. Thanks!
posted by Michael Nyquist
Do you have a citation/source for the Baptist information?
posted by M Cole
Looking back over a couple of decades of searches, it appears that much of the information I had on Benjamin Harrison and hence William White had came from secondary sources; and primarily from Austin. A summary of the Austin info is now repeated and referenced in https://www.geni.com/people/Benjamin-Harrington-of-Providence/6000000011970581990

under an Austin subheading. At the time I had begun my personal family quest, this was nearly all I could find through an inter-library loan, and I realize is not not meet the more stringent research requirements of Wikitree. Thank you.

posted by Michael Nyquist
Regarding the cited source, B. D. White, W. W. Woodward, (2007). "A most exquisite fellow: William White and an Atlantic world perspective on the seventeenth-century chymical furnace." Ambix. 54 (no. 3):285-298 http://hdl.handle.net/10179/666 [links to an "abstract"] http://dx.doi.org/10.1179/174582307X237065 [links to an "abstract"] : 2007. Correctly identifies William White, ca 1600-1610 to 1673, husband of Elizabeth Jackson, father of Cornelius White I, et al

The source seems an article published 2007 in Ambix, otherwise a "a peer-reviewed academic journal on the history of alchemy and chemistry ... currently published by the Society for the History of Alchemy and Chemistry" (see Wikipedia).

Note our included comment, "Correctly identifies William White, ca 1600-1610 to 1673, husband of Elizabeth Jackson, father of Cornelius White I, et al."

Our narrative references this source nine times without further reference to any underlying historical records or authorities cited by the article's authors. At least in a quick review, the work seems not widely distributed nor readily accessible without registration and/or possibly subscription.

Without knowing the historical references and authorities cited by the authors, how would we assess whether this work is a reliable pre-1700 source, or how it would differ from FindAGrave or an online family file?

I plan to update the span tag citation to include detail from the see also source, but without more insight, we should consider removing the inline citations to this source. If reliable sources do not support the associated claims, those should be moved (intact) to research notes.

posted by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
GeneJ, I was able to download the full article from the first link, on the left where it says "View/Open Full Text"
posted by M Cole
Finding what seems two or three different biographies one the profile, as yet not fashioned into a single sketch.

Profile already has four maintenance categories--Needs Research; Needs Format Improvement; Needs Inline Citations; Needs Merge Cleanup.

Any takers?--Gene

posted by GeneJ X
I plan to move the unsourced section "Notes: Hartlib: Mr Whites Inventions" to a space page, as it appears to be a lengthy extraction. If no information is forthcoming to show that the "extraction" was from public domain materials, then the new space page itself might be merged away. --Gene
posted by GeneJ X
Do we have any insight into the origins, in this family group, of the relatively rare given name Ursula? It might be a clue to placing this couple if we can find an Ursula grandmother or aunt etc.
posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor
My great x 11 Grandfather! This is rather extensive and very interesting. Thanks so much for the research work that went in to developing this profile.

I have only one comment: "....On 6 July 1654, William’s daughter Margaret testified to Bermuda’s Governor Wentworth...." I could find no Governor Wentworth in Bermuda (Somer Islands). The Governor in 1654 was Capt. Josias Forster.

posted by Michael Nyquist
You're right, not until the 1670s was there a Wentworth governor. Unfortunately there is no inline citation in that paragraph indicating the specific source. There was an attorney John Wentworth during the 1650s witchcraft trials, maybe that's who took the testimony and "Governor" got inserted somewhere along the line? https://sites.rootsweb.com/~bmuwgw/witches.htm
posted by Brad Stauf
Thank you so much for the quick and interesting response. In light of all the witchcraft trials taking place, William and daughter Elizabeth, although severely provoked, were ill-advised in making some of the comments they did.

You might find this of interest: a product of years of my search. It appears that William may have been a Quaker? "Benjamin Harrington (Hearnden, Harnden, Hearndon, Hearnton, Herenden, Harndale, Harraden, Harradin, Horndel, Harndel, Herendean, Herendeen, Harrendine) was born in 1618 at Bath, Somerset, England, the son of John Harrington and Ann Clinton. John Harrington came from England in 1630, settled at Charlestown or Boston Harbor, and was drowned at sea shortly after his arrival. Ann Clinton died two years after John, in late 1632. Benjamin went to live with an uncle. At age 15, Benjamin embraced the Baptist faith, which was banned in Massachusetts. The uncle punished him severely for his beliefs, and threatened to turn him over to the authorities. Soon after this, Benjamin left his uncle’s house penniless and alone. His goal was to reach Roger William’s settlement in Rhode Island. The Reverend Roger Williams was from Salem, came to Plymouth in 1632, went back to Salem, and was banished from Massachusetts in 1635. Benjamin met a group of Quakers and joined them, helping them along the way with their wagon full of goods. During this journey he decided to make a clean break and change the spelling of his last name to Hearnden. The group included William and Elizabeth White, whose eldest daughter was Elizabeth White. The group arrived at Providence in 1642. Benjamin was at Providence in 1646, Lynn, Massachusetts in 1647, and was prominent in the settlement of Reading, Massachusetts. He was an ironworker. Benjamin married the afore-mentioned Elizabeth White, born 1629 in London, England, the daughter of William and Elizabeth Jackson of Boston, on 9 Jul 1647 at Providence. Benjamin became further connected to Roger Williams through this marriage."

posted by Michael Nyquist
Thank you for contributing this -- can you also share the source that you are quoting?
posted by Scott McClain
Yes, but this may be difficult. Unlike others on this site, I am not a professional genealogist. My whole intent for decades was merely to discover and push back as far as I could my diverse personal ancestry, writing an ancestry book in the process. The book began merely with end notes for each ancestor, and switched to footnotes. However, I have by now used over 25,000 individual sources, and as the book is now around 500 pages, I choose not to annotate every source, which would have made it fairly unreadable to my assumed audience. However, having said that, here is a list of the main sources I have used:

^AFNs: 83Q6-0K, 83Q7-98 and 3VRN-TB, IGI, LDS ^A Genealogy of the Descendants of Robert Austin, via Ancestry.com, 2020. ^Whittemore, Henry, Genealogical Guide to the Early Settlers…., op. cit. ^Holmes, Frank R., Directory of the Ancestral Heads of New England Families 1620-1700, op. cit. ; ^also Whittemore, Henry, Genealogical Guide to the Early Settlers…., op. cit. ^Austin, John Osborne, Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island, op. cit., p. 95-6. ^AFNs: 83Q6-0K, 84V6-S6 and 8N3Z-75, IGI, LDS; also ^Austin; and Crandall, Adelaide B., Blanchards of RI. ^Snow, Edwin M., Alphabetical Index of Births, Marriages…Providence, op. cit. ^Austin, John Osborne, Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island, op. cit. pp. 95-6 ^Chase, George Wingate, The History of Haverhill, Massachusetts, from Its First Settlement, in 1640, to the Year 1860. 1861. ^Austin, John Osborne, Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island, op. cit. ^Snow, Edwin M., Alphabetical Index of Births, Marriages…Providence, Vol 1 ^Holmes, Frank R., Directory of the Ancestral Heads of New England Families 1620-1700, op. cit. ^Virkus, Frederick A., The Compendium of American Genealogy, Volume I-VII, op. cit. ^Mackenzie, George Norbury. "Colonial Families of the United States of America," op. cit. ^ Freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cbrennan/Bosworth/ d0004/g0000098/html#4 ^Torrey, Clarence Almon, New England Marriages Prior to 1700, op. cit. ^Stratton, Eugene Aubrey, Plymouth Colony, Its History and People, 1620-1691, op. cit. ^ WikiTree, 2021. ^AFNs: 83Q6-0K, 83Q7-98 and 3VRN-TB, IGI, LDS ^https://www.geni.com/people/John-Harrington-of-Watertown/6000000013397246793 ^NEHGS, Michael LeClerc, op. cit. ^Find a Grave Index, Ancestry.com, 2020.

Hope this is of assistance. I believe most of what I stated earlier was obtained from A Genealogy of the Descendants of Robert Austin. Cheers!

posted by Michael Nyquist
edited by Michael Nyquist
What source evidences the White family as Quakers?

The unsourced narrative provided strictly contradicts the history given here, about the earliest arrival of Quakers to Massachusetts circa 1656, a full generation later than the dates given above: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers_in_North_America

"Mary Fisher and Ann Austin are the first known Quakers to set foot in the New World. They traveled from England to Barbados in 1655 and then went on to the Massachusetts Bay Colony to spread the beliefs of the Friends among the colonists."

This is not a topic I know anything about, so I am just calling attention to the Quaker timeline discrepancy as something that would need research and proof before being promoted into the profile.

posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor
Isaac,

I'd suggest you post your question on G2G where it will get a much wider audience

posted by S (Hill) Willson
Dear S.,

I'm disinclined, as there does not appear to be a substantiated dispute worthy of mass attention "up" at the Quaker project level. Rather, only an unsourced assertion here in the commentary on this one profile, which is not yet even incorporated into this bio. So my inclination is that, as long as the profile managers [here] are tracking this, we're in good hands.

Thoughts?

Respectfully,

posted by Isaac Taylor
Gene will be expounding on this but I will summarize. Mary Fisher and Ann Austin arrived Massachusetts Oct 1656. Their interactions with the locals were limited and they were deported. There is evidence Quakers were in and active around Salem before 1656. However, in 1635 there were no Quakers in the world for Benjamin (see above) to have met on the way to Providence. Other types of dissenters, yes, but no Quakers. George Fox did not begin to preach publicly until 1647 and the term Quakers came about later.
posted by T Stanton
Ahoy Brad,

What source evidences any Wentworth governor of Bermuda?

This source suggests none ever, to this day: https://www.gov.bm/previous-governors-bermuda

I wonder about Lieutennant Governors, and military administrators. But also, yes, to point above about garble between Mass lawyers and Bermuda administrators.

Respectfully,

posted by Isaac Taylor
PMs: are all the @ signs needed throughout this profile?
posted by S (Hill) Willson
You mean the @M123's? No they could be cleared out. But the whole narrative needs a rework.
posted by Jillaine Smith
I can't figure out what the source is for the detailed chronology from 1643-1658 in this profile - there is a lot of great material there but it is unclear where it came from. Does anyone know?
posted by Scott McClain
Perhaps it is the "see also" source called, "William White: A Timeline", Bruce D. White."

Possibly this person is otherwise the "B. D. White," author of the 2007 article about which I commented; perhaps this is material extracted from the article.

I plan to move that section to a space page. If the material isn't shown to be in the public domain or used here with permission, then the information should be summarized on the profile with a proper inline citation, and the space page should be merged away. --Gene

posted by GeneJ X
Update 28 June 2020: This marriage entry is indexed by https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKGY-ZVM

19 Jan 1629 marriage was by license from the Vicar General (see https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Marriage_Allegations,_Bonds_and_Licences_in_England_and_Wales) William White to Elizabeth Jackson. St Gregory by St Paul, City of London, London, England View the actual page by subscription at: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1624/31281_a101656-00057?pid=7075599

posted by Beryl Meehan
edited by Beryl Meehan
Links to Ancestry.com do not work for sources as you need a personal login to gain access.
posted by Gerald Jones
Another William White Marriage Date: 20 Jun 1624 Marriage by banns Place: St Martin, West Drayton, Hillingdon, Middlesex, England

Spouse: Elizabeth indexed as Furake (maybe Ffeacke as hard to read the handwriting) Register Type: Bishop's Transcript https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1624/31547_213878-00025?pid=10619649

posted by Beryl Meehan
Some William White married Elizabeth Hooke by license 7 Nov 1622 St Saviour Southwark (south London area), Surrey, England

by subscription https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1624/48220_263021009500_3388-00099?pid=160756265

posted by Beryl Meehan
White-50715 and White-1947 appear to represent the same person because: same name, spouse in process of merge, this is a multi-generational merge of duplicate profiles. Thank you for reviewing, Teresa (WikiTree Arborist)
posted by Teresa Downey
White-31625 and White-1947 appear to represent the same person because: same wife and daughter, same death, no source provided on -91625 to support birth year
posted by Robin Lee
Elizabeth Cadman was not the spouse of William White. The correct spouse is Elizabeth Jackson.
posted by Andrew White
White-28316 and White-1947 appear to represent the same person because: Same death, same daughter. Other details are consistent (but there are a lot of guesses here).
posted by Ellen Smith