Freeman Williams (abt. 1780 - 1862)

Born about 1780 in North Carolina, United States

Husband of Lydia L (Carroll) Williams — married 1814 in Buncombe, North Carolina, USA

Descendants

Died 18 Nov 1862 at about age 82 in Houston, Winston, Alabama, United States

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Biography

Lydia Williams stated in her application for a widow's pension that her husband, Freeman Williams, was born in 1780 in 'Wait' County, North Carolina [Wake County?].

1832, Wake County, North Carolina -- Several deed books were destroyed in register's office fire. 1810 and 1820 U.S. Federal Census for Wake County are lost.

At the time Freeman enlisted in the Army, he was 30 years old and his occupation was farming. Lydia described Freeman as being six feet tall with dark hair, pale blue eyes, and a fair complexion. She said Freeman enlisted at Ashville, North Carolina and he served under Captain Gordon. No record for a Captain Gordon serving in that area could be found so the 1878 request for a pension was denied.^[1]

Merged Freeman Williams profile, Williams-42758, listed him as John Freeman Williams. Documentation is needed to make sure of the correct name.

Freeman married Lydia Carroll in 1814 in Buncombe County, North Carolina.^[2]Lydia couldn't remember the exact date, only the year. Freeman was enumerated as a head-of-house in 1830 Buncombe County, North Carolina. His birth family is unknown at this time (27 Mar 2017).

Buncombe County was formed in 1791 from parts of Burke County and Rutherford County...The large county originally extended to the Tennessee line...In 1808 the western part of Buncombe County became Haywood County. In 1833 parts of Burke County and Buncombe County were combined to form Yancey County.^[3]

1800 Heads of House in Morgan, Buncombe County, North Carolina Census

Williams,

William

Joshua

Samuel

Thomas

William

Thomas

John

Stephen

Rich

John

Jesse

Smith

Isaac

Carroll,

John

1810 Heads of House in Buncombe County, North Carolina Census

Williams,

John

Humphrey

Thomas

Thomas

Samuel

George

Elijah

William

Enoch

Carrel,

Hansey

John

Dennis

According to the widow's application of Freeman's wife, Lydia, they had lived in Buncombe County, North Carolina for about 22 years.^[4]

1820 Heads of House in Buncombe County, North Carolina Census

John 200010-50011-0100 (26 and under 45 with 7 young children and two older women) p. 76 ^[5]

George 000010-21210-0100 (26 to under 45 with no sons, 6 females) p. 86^[6]

John 420010-11201-0300 (26 to under 45 with large family) p. 88^[7]

Joseph 000010-40100-0100 (26 to under 45 with no sons, 4 females under 10, 1 female 26 to under 45) p. 90^[8]

William 310010-20010-0200 (26 to under 45, 4 males under 16, 2 females under 10, 1 female under 45) p. 94^[9]

E Williams Juner (Jr.) 200010-10010-0100 (26 to under 45, living next door to E Williams) p. 108^[10]

E Williams 011301-20001-0400 (45 or older) p. 108^[11]

Enoch 000001-00001-0100 (1 m. 45+, 1 f. 45+) p. 110^[12]

Stuart 200010-00110-0100 p. 125 A William Carrell living nearby.^[13]

Buncombe County Court Minutes for the April Session, 1795 mentions July Session to wit: Edward Williams and John Williams among others. So is E. Williams Edward Williams? GenForum

There were ten Williams heads of households in the 1830 Buncombe County census. None of them are on the same page as Freeman.

Williams,

Isaiah ... p. 221

Elizah ... p. 229

Edward P ... p. 245

Stewart ... p. 248

George ... p. 251

John ... p. 253

Alford ... p. 253

Freeman ... p. 267

Jas P ... p. 284

Jno ... p. 292

Willis and William Carroll were enumerated next door to each other on page 259. William is a little older at from 30 to under 40. There was also a Daniel Carles on page 290.

1830 Buncombe County, North Carolina Census

page 267

Actual Census Data Probable Family Members

1 m (40-50) ... Freeman Williams

1 f (30-40) ... Lydia (Carroll) Williams

1 m (10-15) ... James Nelson?

1 f (10-15) ... Unknown Female

1 m (5-10) ... Adolphus 8 NC

1 m (5-10) ... Unknown Male

1 m (Under 5) ... Charles S. 2 NC

1 f (Under 5) ... Mary Ann

Neighbors: Boyd, Gellaspie, Ingle, Deboro/Debord/Debond???, Lee, Parker, Capicea/Capian?, Garron, Phillips, Patton, Griggs, Gaith/Garth?, Osborne, Rogers, Speek, Baird, Spivey, Hire, Edwards, Wells.

1840 Gilmer County, Georgia Census

Actual Census Data Probable Family Members

1 m (50-60) ... Freeman Williams

1 f (40-50) ... Lydia (Carroll) Williams

1 m (20-30) ... Adolphus 18 NC

1 m (10-15) ... Charles S. 12 NC

1 m (5-10) ... M. Alexander 6 NC

1 f (5-10) ... Mary Ann? Must have been b. ca 1830 to be in both census records or her age is incorrect in this census.

David M. (ca 2 NC) should be here. Why was he not in the census record?

Neighbors: Long, Reid, Tate, Griffith, Wakefield, Bramlett, Charles, Moore, Sheppard, Cox, Quillian, Densmore, Stephens, Addington, Erwin, Seay, Reece, Whitmire, Gos?, Prince, Dilbeck, Glen, Grogan, Holcome.

1850 Gilmer County, Georgia Census

House number 974

Freeman Williams M 70 North Carolina

Lydia Williams F 54 North Carolina

Charles Williams M 22 North Carolina

Marion Williams M 16 North Carolina

David M Williams M 12 North Carolina

The James Nelson Williams family was living next door at household 975.

Household 966 was the William Carroll family of NC. William's age was probably 53, but the '5' is poorly formed and could be an '8', but that's unlikely as his wife was 47. Teenage children and 70 year old Jane Plemons of Virginia was enumerated in their household. Perhaps William was Lydia (Carroll) Williams' brother.

Other neighbors: Dismang?, Sellers, Jenkins, West, Brock, Ducket, Taylor, Redding, Patterson, Sudeth, Couch, (Carroll, Jesse)

1860 Winston County, Alabama census

Freeman Williams M 70 North Carolina

Lidda Williams F 65 North Carolina

For census details, see:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bartonquest/clanwilliams.htm

He bought land in Winston County in 1860:

View Patent Image AL3940__.066 Patentee WILLIAMS, FREEMAN

9/1/1860 30758 AL Huntsville

009S - 008W N½NE¼ 5 Winston

009S - 008W NE¼NW¼ 5 Winston

009S - 008W SW¼NE¼ 5 Winston

Freeman is buried in Moreland, Winston County, Alabama, probably on the plot of land he owned as the cemetery is called Freeman Williams Cemetery. ^[14] This information was found in a book at the Double Springs court house in Winston County, Alabama about twenty years ago. The book said Freeman was the only known person buried there and FindaGrave agrees with this.

Note: Find a Grave Memorial 174235784 says his name is John Freeman Williams and DOB is 1780 and DOD is 8 Nov 1867.

Look under Williams to find the correct cemetery. Viewing the photo, it appears there are more graves marked there???

Freeman was part Native American, either Cherokee or Choctaw.

For general history of Buncombe County, North Carolina:

http://www.newrivernotes.com/nc/wnc8.htm

A lot of good general Winston County, Alabama genealogical information can be found at: http://www.freestateofwinston.org/

Note

From: "David & Venee Henson":

"Carol - I have been reading with interest your William Williams' families...in your research, did you ever come across a Freeman Williams b Buncombe Co, NC, as a possible family member of Wm Williams? Freeman was b about 1780 and married Lydia L Carroll. One of his sons was my gr-gr-grandfather, Adolphus D E Williams; his son, my gr-grandfather, was Adolphus Patton Williams; my grandmother was Lillian May Williams.

"In a story I read written by a relative, it said that this Williams family had relatives who lived in Giles Co, TN, but no names were given. During the Civil War, my Adolphus D E Williams and family moved from Winston Co, AL to Wayne Co, TN to wait out the war. Supposedly Wayne Co, TN was neutral territory. After the war they went back to Winston Co, then moved on to Saline Co, AR for a spell. Adolphus had been a Missionary Baptist Preacher and was much loved by those who came to hear him speak. No one in my family knew much about Freeman Williams except he may have been part Cherokee Indian. He owned land in Winston Co, AL, and died there in 1869. Would really like to find his parents. Thanks, Venée Stuart-Henson^[15]

Freeman Williams. Given Name: Freeman. Surname: Williams. ^[16]

Born 1780 North Carolina, United States. ^[17]

Died 1860 Winston, Alabama, United States. ^[18]

PPEXCLUDE

FSFTID LHWZ-1DD.

FSLINK https:/familysearch.org/tree#view=ancestor&person=LHWZ-1DD.

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Williams DNA Project]

Sources

1. ↑ Application for widows pension for Freeman William's service in the United States, War of 1812
2. ↑ Application for widows pension for Freeman William's service in the United States, War of 1812
3. ↑ Buncombe County, North Carolina, via Wikipedia
4. ↑ Application for widows pension for Freeman William's service in the United States, War of 1812
5. ↑ "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHG9-YGT : accessed 28 March 2017), John Williams, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 76, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 80; FHL microfilm 162,796.
6. ↑ "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHG9-B9P : accessed 28 March 2017), George Williams, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 86, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 80; FHL microfilm 162,796.
7. ↑ "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHG9-B9T : accessed 28 March 2017), John William, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 88, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 80; FHL microfilm 162,796.
8. ↑ "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHG9-BQL : accessed 28 March 2017), Joseph Williams, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 90, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 80; FHL microfilm 162,796.
9. ↑ "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHG9-BWJ : accessed 28 March 2017), William Williams, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 94, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 80; FHL microfilm 162,796.
10. ↑ "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHG9-BJ9 : accessed 28 March 2017), E Williams Jr, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 108, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 80; FHL microfilm 162,796.
11. ↑ "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHG9-BJT : accessed 28 March 2017), E Williams, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 108, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 80; FHL microfilm 162,796.
12. ↑ "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHG9-BVV : accessed 28 March 2017), Enoch Williams, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 110, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 80; FHL microfilm 162,796.
13. ↑ "United States Census, 1820," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHG9-1S1 : accessed 28 March 2017), Stuart Williams, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 125, NARA microfilm publication M33, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 80; FHL microfilm 162,796.
14. ↑ Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/174235784/john-freeman-williams: accessed 9 November 2022), memorial page for John Freeman Williams (1780–8 Nov 1867), Find A Grave: Memorial #174235784 citing Freeman Williams Cemetery, Moreland, Winston County, Alabama, USA; Maintained by D Byron (contributor 50524098) .
15. ↑ Rootsweb Archives
16. ↑ Source: #S2 accessed 4 Jan 2016), entry for Freeman Williams, person ID LHWZ-1DD. Certainty: 3
17. ↑ Source: #S2 accessed 4 Jan 2016), entry for Freeman Williams, person ID LHWZ-1DD. Certainty: 3
18. ↑ Source: #S2 accessed 4 Jan 2016), entry for Freeman Williams, person ID LHWZ-1DD. Certainty: 3

See Also:

• "United States Census, 1830," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH5M-KF6 : 18 August 2015), Freeman Williams, Buncombe, North Carolina, United States; citing 267, NARA microfilm publication M19, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 118; FHL microfilm 18,084.
• "United States Census, 1840," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHBZ-CRY : 24 August 2015), Freeman Williams, Gilmer, Georgia, United States; citing p. 3, NARA microfilm publication M704, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 42; FHL microfilm 7,044.
• "United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZYP-WLY : 9 November 2014), Freeman Williams, Gilmer county, part of, Gilmer, Georgia, United States; citing family 974, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
• "United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK1B-H2ZY : 31 December 2015), Freeman Williams, 1860.
• Court papers and burial records.
• Land records
• Source: S2 "FamilySearch," database, \i FamilySearch\i0   The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Publication: (http://www.familysearch.org) Italicized: Y Paranthetical: Y accessed 4 Jan 2016), entry for Freeman Williams, person ID LHWZ-1DD. Certainty: 3

Acknowledgements

• Thanks to Carolyn Lonzo for generously sharing her research.