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Robert Wynne (1622 - abt. 1675)

Colonel Robert Wynne
Born in St. Dunstan, Canterbury, Kent, Englandmap
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Son of and
Brother of , and
Husband of — married 11 Dec 1653 in Canterbury, Kent, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Father of , , , and
Died about at about age 52 in Jordan's Parish, Charles City County, Colony of Virginiamap
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Biography

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Robert Wynne, Virginia Burgess[1]

Name

Col Robert Wynne

Baptism

28 DEC 1622, St. Dunstan, Canterbury, England

Marriage

Col Robert Wynne and Mary Frances Sloman Polythress married 11 DEC 1653, Canterbury, Kent, , England

Immigration

BET 1651 AND 1655. Came to Charles City, VA from England.[citation needed]
1670, arrived Virginia

Military Service

Captain & Colonel of the Militia of Charles City County; also a Colonel in the British Army.[citation needed]

Occupation

He was elected Speaker of the House of Burgesses in Charles City County, Virginia 1661-1674 under the royally appointed Governor William Berkeley. Several documents to King Charles II bear Robert's signature.[2]
Speaker of The Assembly in the House of Burgesses, where he was a Burgess from 1658 to 1675; Speaker longer than any man in Virginia history. BET 13 MAR 1669 AND 06 MAR 1675.[2]

Death

about Sep 1675
(probate date) 16 AUG 1678 Charles City, Charles, Colony of Virginia
AUG 1678 Jordan, Charles City, VA

Burial

about 1678, Jordan's Church, Charles City Co., VA (Prince George Co.)[citation needed]

Will

Robert Wynne of Jordan's Parish of Charles City County, in Virginia dated 1 July 1675.
Will probated 15 August 1678[citation needed]
To be buried in Jordan's Church as near as possible to my son Robert. My estate in England as follows: To my eldest son Thomas Wynne one farm in White Staple Parish in Kent near Canterbury, and commonly called Linebett Banckes; if he dies, to my son Joshua, and if he dies, to my daughter Wodlief. To my son Thomas two houses in Canterbury in St. Mildreds' Parish in the same form as the said farm. To my youngest son Joshua Wynne one house and oatemeale mill lying in Dover Lane without St. Georges in Canterbury, commonly called the Lilly Pott, and two houses adjoining where a ropemaker and one Rawlins were formerly tenants. Touching my estate in Virginia, to my son Thomas all the cattle of his own mark except one cow called Moll which is to be killed for provisions; to my son Joshua my plantation called Georges withal the tobacco houses; to my daughter Wodlief, one servant of fewer years to serve the next shipping after my decease; to my grandchild and godson young George Wodlief one filly foal. All the rest of my estate in Virginia and England to my wife and executrix Mary Wynne.
Overseers: Thomas Grendon, Merchant, and my son-in-law

(step-son) Capt. Francis Poythress.

Witnesses: Tho. Brome, Jno Burge.

Virginia Council Journals, 1726-1753 The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography Vol. 38, No. 3 (Jul., 1930)

Research Notes

Needs Research: Information needs to have valid, verifiable sources (noted with inline citations). ~ Noland-165 19:07, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

I added a bunch of sources, but did not add inline citations. ~ Foster-86 17:42, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Added inline citations for service as Burgess, still need citations for military service, arrival in Virginia, burial, & probate of will. Strutton-11 16:07, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Family Connections

See William D. Lindsey's "Notes on Wynne Family Connections to Poythress Family" on "Poythress Surname History" (a search for Wynne Overview pulls up the 6 October 2013 post).
Mary Frances Sloman married first Francis Poythress and had issue; married second Robert Wynne,December 11, 1653 , and had issue per Wynne Family article published in Genealogies of Virginia Families from Tyler's Quarterly Historical and Genealogical Magazine, Volume IV, page 530-531

Sources

  1. ↑ Jamestowne Society: Wynne/Wynn, Robert - A9301; born ca. 1622, died 1675, Charles City Co.: 1658 (Burgess); 1661-74 (Speaker of House of Burgesses). accessed 14 September 2018
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 New River Notes, Colonial Virginia Register

See also:

  • Ancestry Profile
  • Ancestry Profile
  • London, England, Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 (Ancestry Online publication, 2010). Original data - Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1812. London, England: London Metropolitan Archives. Images produced by permission of the City of London Corporation Libraries
  • Yates Publishing, U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 (Ancestry Online publication, 2004). Original data...extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases.
  • "Virginia Gleanings in England (Continued)," The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, Vol. 14, No. 2 (Oct., 1906), pp. 171-180. Published by: Virginia Historical Society, (p. 173 has transcript of will)
  • "Epes Family," Chapter 14, (accessed August 26, 2015). It is posted by the "Poythress Surname Genealogy Research" website.
  • Ancestor Lineages of Members Texas Society/National Society Colonial Dames Seventeenth Century; Quote: WYNNE, ROBERT Col. b 28 Dec 1622, Canterbury, Eng, d ca 8 Oct 1675, Charles City Co., VA; m Mrs. Mary Frances Poythress; SERVICE: Speaker/House of Burgesses 1661, military; VA; CHILDREN: + 1. Thomas b 1657, d 1718 Surry Co., VA; m 1690, Charles City Co., VA, Agnes Smith; 2. Robert d bef 1 July 1675; 3. Mary m John or George Woodlief/Woodieffe; * 4. Joshua b 1663, d bef 30 Mar 1715; m Mary Jones; #25015 Martha L. Jenkins Leverett; #25610 Judy Sietzler Barnett+; #26308 Tara Winter Merritt; #10654 Susie Dickson Elder Merritt. Image
  • England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975; Ancestry Record 9841 #64753187; Name: Robart Wynn; Gender: Male; Baptism Date: 28 Dec 1622; Baptism Place: Saint Dunstan, Canterbury, Kent, England: Father: Peter Wynn; FHL Film Number: 0973131 IT 3; Household Members: Name: Robart Wynn; Name: Peter Wynn.
  • England, Select Derbyshire, Church of England Parish Registers, 1538-1910; Ancestry Record 9931 #1371990; Name: Robert Wynne; Gender: Male; Spouse: Frances Wynne; Child: Robert William Wynne; Household Members: Name: Robert William Wynne; Name: Frances Wynne; Name: Robert Wynne.
  • Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s; Ancestry Record 7486 #3973290; Name: Robert Wynne; Arrival Year: 1675; Arrival Place: Virginia; Primary Immigrant: Wynne, Robert; Source Publication Code: 9833.25; Annotation: Date and place of mention in the New World. Extracted from a series of articles published in The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography titled "Virginia Gleanings in England." Records of wills and other biographical information provided. Source Bibliography: WITHINGTON, LOTHROP. Virginia Gleanings in England: Abstracts of 17th and 18th-Century English Wills and Administrations Relating to Virginia and Virginians: A Consolidation of Articles from The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography. Baltimore: Clearfield Co., 1998. 745p. Household Members: Name: Robert Wynne.
  • Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s; Ancestry Record 7486 #3972454; Name: Robert Wynne; Arrival Year: 1670; Arrival Place: Virginia; Primary Immigrant: Wynne, Robert; Source Publication Code: 8925; Annotation: Alphabetical list of immigrants to Virginia, 1635-1800, from a variety of sources. Source Bibliography: STANARD, WILLIAM GLOVER. Some Emigrants to Virginia: Memoranda in Regard to Several Hundred Emigrants to Virginia during the Colonial Period Whose Parentage is Shown or Former Residence Indicated by Authentic Records. Richmond [Va.]: Bell Book and Stationery Co., 1911. 2nd ed., enl., 1915. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1983. 94p. Household Members: Name: Robert Wynne.
  • U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Ancestry Record 7836 #1369901; Name: Robert Wynne; Gender: Male; Birth Place: Ke; Birth Year: 1622; Spouse Name: Mary; Marriage; Year: 1652; Marriage State: En; Number Pages: 1.
  • U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Ancestry Record 7836 #1369895; Name: Robert Wynne; Gender: Male; Birth Place: Ke; Birth Year: 1622; Spouse Name: Mary Frances; Number Pages: 1.
  • U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current; Find A Grave: Memorial #201019182
  • UK, Extracted Probate Records; Ancestry Record 1610 #1241839; Name: Wynne, Winne, Robert; Dates: 1673; Place: General, England; Book: Calendar of Wills in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury 1671-1675; Collection: England: Canterbury - Wills Proved in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, 1671-1675; Text: Wynne, Winne, Robert, Timby, Pembroke; H.M.S. "Cambridge", souldier; 1673 97.
  • Virginia Gleanings in England; Quote: ROBERT WYNNE of Jordans Parishe of Charles City County in Virginia. Gent. Will r July 1675; proved 15 August 1678. To be buried in Jordans Church as near as possible to my son Robert. My estate in England as follows: To my eldest son Thomas Wynne one farm in Whitestaple Parish in Kent near Canterbury, and commonly called Linebett Banckes; if he die, to my son Joshua, and if he die, to my daughter Wodlief. To my son Thomas two houses in Canterbury in St. Mildred's Parish in the same form as the said fairm. To my youngest son Joshua Wynne one house and Oatmeale mill lying in Dover Lane without St. George's in Canterbury, commonly called the Lilly Pott, and two houses adjoining where a Ropemaker and one Rawlins were formerly tenants. Touching my estate in Virginia, to my son Thomas all the cattle of his own mark except one caw called Moll which is to be killed for provision; to my son Joshua my plantation called Georges withall the Tobacco houses; to my daughter Woodlief one servant of Fower yeares to serve the next shipping after my decease; to my grandchild and godson young George Woodlief one filly foal. Al the rest of my Estate in Virginia and England to my wife and executrix, Mary Wynne. Overseers: Thomas Grendon, Merchant, and my son in law Captain Francis Poythres. Witnesses: Tho. Brome, John Burge. Reeve, 89. [The testator, Captain Robert Wynne, was, in his day, one of the most influential men in Virginia. Beginning his service a representative for Charles City county at the sessions of March, 1657–8, and March, 1659–60, he was during the entire existence of Virginia's "Long Parliament" 1661–1674, Speaker of the House of Burgesses. It would appear from his will that he married a widow Poythress. The woodliefs are believed to be descendants of Captain John Woodlief, who came to Virginia in 1620 to take charge of the well-known Berkeley plantation, in regard to which the "Smith of Nibley Papers," now in the New York Public Library, give so much interesting information. Robert Wynne's sons were living and married early in the 18th century. Thomas Wynne, gent, of Prince George county, was living in 1707, and then aged 50. In November of the same year, he, together with Agnes his wife, made deeds, recorded in Surry, to his daughter Mary Melone, and his son Robert Wynne. Major Joshua Wynne and Mary his wife, deeded a tract of land in Surry in 1708. In that year he was a justice of Prince George county. These brothers are believed to be ancestors of the Wynnes of southern Virginia.] Image
  • Wulfeck, Dorothy Ford, Marriages of Some Virginia Residents 1607–1800 (Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, Maryland, 1986); Volume II; Page 319; Quote: WYNNE Robert, from Kent in England, res. 1658, Charles City Co. will, 1678; m. Mary (_______) Poythress, widow of Capt. Francis Poythress. 12T173.
  • Cowper, Joseph Meadows. The Register Booke of Christeninges, Mariages and Burialls in Saint Dunstan's, Canterbury, 1559-1800 (Cross & Jackman, Canterbury, 1887) Page 11: Baptism: 28 Dec 1622 St. Dunstan's, Canterbury, Kent, England




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Drody-16 Margaret (Drody) Thompson
Hope some of this research will help with the ancestry of Robert Wynne. I was curious about his ancestry because he appeared to be so close to my Grendons: Col. Thomas and Lt. Col. Thomas Grendon. Overseer: Thomas Grendon, Merchant for Robert Wynn of Jordan's Parish, Charles City County, Va. July 1, 1675, and was also witness to will.

Overseer: Thomas Grendon, Merchant for Robert Wynn of Jordan's Parish, Charles City County, Va. July 1, 1675 Robert’s grandfather was a rich woolen Draper and probably associated with Col. Thomas Grendon thru the Draper’s Association in London. Paternal ancestry of Col. Robert Wynne By genealogy.com user April 30, 1999 at 08:12:24 .Col. Robert Wynne, Speaker of the House of Burgesses of Virginia, was the grandson of Robert Wynne, Mayor of Canterbury, Kent, in 1599.His father is stated in numerous sources on the Internet and elsewhere as being Sir John Wynne and his mother Sidney Gerrard (, whose History of the Gwydir Family (i.e., his ownGwynne/Wynne family) is one of the Welsh classics.His wife was the daughter of Sir William Gerrard, Lord Chancellor of Ireland, whose life as a judge in Ireland was distinguished not only by a burning sense of justice but also by a compassion for the poor people of Ireland uncharacteristic of his time.Proud though one might be to be descended from these great men,

Sir John Wynn, as a reference to the article in the essential Dictionary of National Biography will show, was a distinguished figure in the rough-and-tumble Elizabethan world where politics and finance were intricately intertwined, and came from a family descended not only from the Welsh kings and princes but also from Cardinal Beaufort, son of John of Gaunt, son of Edward III, and from the highest nobility of England, but he is more noted as being a great antiquary, whose History of the Gwydir Family (i.e., his ownGwynne/Wynne family) is one of the Welsh classics.His wife was the daughter of Sir William Gerrard, Lord Chancellor of Ireland, whose life as a judge in Ireland was distinguished not only by a burning sense of justice but also by a compassion for the poor people of Ireland uncharacteristic of his time.Proud though one might be to be descended from these great men, we, or at least the descendants of Col. Robert Wynne, are not.

Robert the Mayor and his wife Frances (Wattmer) died in 1609 within a couple of days of each other, apparently of the plague. The Mayor was a rich woolen draper, and these sudden and unexpected deaths caused a tremendous mess.On her beautifully maintained and informative web site (http://home.att.net/~c.middleton/) Carol Middleton includes a fascinating paper by Dorothy Gardiner, F.S.A., which sets out in rich detail what this led to and how the Mayor's children were provided for by Alderman William Wattmer (although the article never mentions that he was the Mayor's brother-in-law and was caring for his own nieces and nephews, and curiously says that the Mayor's son Peter's children died during their father's lifetime, which is disproved by his will and the wills of his son and father, the two Robert Wynnes, also available on this web site).In this paper, Gardiner says and proves that the Mayor and his wife were buried in his family tomb in St. George's, Canterbury. Robert the Mayor and his wife Frances (Wattmer) died in 1609 within a couple of days of each other, apparently of the plague. The Mayor was a rich woolen draper, and these sudden and unexpected deaths caused a tremendous mess.On her beautifully maintained and informative web site (http://home.att.net/~c.middleton/) Carol Middleton includes a fascinating paper by Dorothy Gardiner, F.S.A., which sets out in rich detail what this led to and how the Mayor's children were provided for by Alderman William Wattmer (although the article never mentions that he was the Mayor's brother-in-law and was caring for his own nieces and nephews, and curiously says that the Mayor's son Peter's children died during their father's lifetime, which is disproved by his will and the wills of his son and father, the two Robert Wynnes, also available on this web site).In this paper, Gardiner says and proves that the Mayor and his wife were buried in his family tomb in St. George's, Canterbury.In her book on the Gwynn family (2nd ed., 1958, reprinted 1965 by the Genealogical Publishing Company), (Gwynn and Wynne are used interchangeably by these families), Stella Pickett Hardy (pp. 248-252) describes the beautiful Gwydir Chapel in Llanrwst, Wales, erected 1633 by the antiquary's grandson Sir Richard Wynne of Gwydir, which contains two tablets relating the history of the family and Sir John's ancestry for some five hundred years, back to Owen Gwynedd, Prince of Wales, who married the sister of Henry II.One of these inscriptions lists the ten sons and two daughters of Sir John and tells which of them were still living and where those who were dead are buried.The tablet distinctly says that Sir John's son Robert was buried in the Chapel.Therefore the Robert Wynne who was Mayor of Canterbury was not the Robert Wynn who was the son of Sir John Wynn.To determine the Mayor's ancestry would require, after consulting the antiquary's book, the examination of the English records, particularly the guild and municipality records of Canterbury, and would almost certainly show that he was from a family which had been for over two hundred and fifty years members of the local merchant elite, with probable ties to the neighboring gentry and nobility, and that a connection to the Gwydir family, while not unlikely, would almost certainly be remot

posted by Margaret (Drody) Thompson
Gresham-1033 Mary Gresham
Thank you for posting this wonderful research on the Wynnes and making clear that Robert Wynne of Canterbury was not the son of Sir John.

Mary

posted by Mary Gresham
Drody-16 Margaret (Drody) Thompson
correction name of witness is Thomas Grendon (either Col. or son Lt. Col. Thomas Grendon)

Thomas Grendon relatives of Edward Grendon, Ancient Planter, settler before the "starving time"

Also some other relatives mentioned at end of this data:

Robert WYNNE was born before 28 Dec. 1622, Canterbury, England (christened at St. Dunstan's church on this date). From 1657-60, he appears in various records as burgess from Charles City Co., VA, and 1661-74, he was speaker of the VA House. He d. bef. 8 Oct. 1675, evidently in Charles City Co. His will, dated 1 July 1675, was probated in England on 15 Aug. 1678. The will identifies Robert WYNNE as of Jordan's Parish, Charles City Co.,VA, and asks that he be buried in the Jordan's church near his son Robert. To his oldest son Thomas, he leaves a farm in Whitestaple Parish near Canterbury, England, called Limbet Banckes, along with two houses in Canterbury in St. Mildred's Parish. To son Joshua he leaves a house and oatmeal mill in Dover Lane outside St. George's, Canterbury, called the Lilly Pot, and two tenant houses. Sons Thomas and Josuah are also left property in VA, the latter receiving the plantation called George's. To his daughter Mary Woodlief, he leaves a servant, and to Mary's son George he also leaves property. The rest of the estate went to Robert WYNNE's wife and extrx. Mary. The overseers of the estate were to be Thomas GRENDON and Robert WYNNE's son-in-law [i.e., stepson] Capt. Francis POYTHRESS. Mary, the widow POYTHRESS's, maiden name is not known. The children of Robert WYNNE were as follows: Thomas WYNNE (1657, Charles City Co.-1718, Prince George or Surry Co., VA), m. 1)---- and 2)Agnes STITH and had issue: Joseph (m. ----LLEWELLYN), and Sloman (m. Elizabeth STITH) by first spouse; Thomas (m. 1]Ann, d/o Robert BOLLING and Ann STITH, 2]Martha, perhaps widow of his brother Joseph), Robert (m. 1]Martha JEFFERSON, 2]Mary PHILIPSON), Mary (m. Nathaniel MALONE), and Lucy (m. John COX), these by Agnes STITH.

posted by Margaret (Drody) Thompson
Adams-39063 Debra (Adams) Akin
There are 3 Mary Wynne's listed as daughters. All were alive at the same time. The 3 should be merged with a check into DOB and DOD. The best way to start fixing this data and the sources is to get them merged.
posted by Debra (Adams) Akin
Gresham-1033 Mary Gresham
For those enthusiastic Wynne/Winn researchers. Very interesting dna finds

Link to Winn Surname Projects at FTDNA.ttps://www.familytreedna.com/groups/winn/about/news

posted by Mary Gresham
Isaac Taylor
Hello kindred spirits!

Three thoughts on Mary Sloman here, and the Wynne family:

First, there are duplicate pages for Mary Sloman. This should be fixed with a merge.

Second, the birthdates currently on wikitree imply either a) her first daughter Mary Wynne was born in England, two years before marrying Robert Wynne; or b) Wynne had another wife, before our Mary. What's the solution? It's not a good "fix" to un-link daughter Mary Wynne from presumptive mom Mary Sloman, is it?

Third, the birthdates here imply Mary Sloman first started having children in her late 40s (noteworthy) then continued through her late 50s (dubious at best), in austerity of colonial Virginia.

What evidence do we have for her birthdate? Generic "1600-00-00" in generic "London-Middlesex-England" is bothersome

posted by Isaac Taylor
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
IF Mary (Poythress nee Sloman) Wynne, then probably the two sons Joshua should merge.

IF "Mary, the widow POYTHRESS's, maiden name is not known." (see information posted on Poythess-1), then the two sons should not merge.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
could he be the father of the Rebecca (Wynne-533) shown as a wife to this Francis Poythress? (which would make Francis his son-in-law). There's still the problem of Francis being married to his father-in-law's wife, Mary Sloman, and that Francis's son John Poythress is said to have named his step-brothers Thomas & Joshua Wynn the executors of his will (see comment on Poythress-8). Thomas and Joshua are shown in WikiTree as Robert's sons by Mary Sloman, not Francis Poythress and Rebecca Wynn's sons).
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Kupau-44 Nalani (Kupau) Briggs
Wynne-2 and Wynne-545 appear to represent the same person because: Most of information is the same. However, there is a discrepancy regarding death information. Given that Wynne-2 is a "Protected Profile", suggestion is given to use the death information from Wynne-2, when completing this merge.
posted by Nalani (Kupau) Briggs
John Floyd
Wynne-837 and Wynne-545 appear to represent the same person because: Appear to be the same person, because they have the same birth and death date and other vital information look the same.
posted by John Floyd
Stough-48 Lindsay (Stough) Tyrie
This profile is a work-in-progress. Under the developing rules on historically-significant ancestors over 300-years-old supervisors are doing expedited merges. We need one manager to take primary responsibility for each profile. Management rights and/or trusted status may be terminated per policy. Please see http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Historically-significant_ancestors for more details. Please feel free to contact me with any questions as well. Thanks!
posted by Lindsay (Stough) Tyrie

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