Nick Andreola Jr
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Nick Andreola Jr

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Nick J. Andreola Jr
Born 1950s.
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Son of and [private mother (1930s - 2010s)]
Brother of [private sister (1950s - unknown)], [private sister (1950s - unknown)] and [private brother (1960s - unknown)]
Father of [private son (1980s - unknown)] and [private daughter (1980s - unknown)]
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2013 Notes

I cannot remember when or by whom I was told that our ancestors had gone to Albania to live for some time and then returned to Italy. The dialect or variation of their language, I was told, had been changed because of this Albanian experience. As I’ve done a little more research, I’ve learned that there is an entirely different cause for the dialect. It appears that some portion of our heritage (just how much remains to be determined) is directly from Albania. The pieces I have so far begin over 500 years ago.

The big picture in the mid-1400’s:

Southern Italy is ruled by the King of Naples.

The Ottoman Empire is in the process of crushing the remnants of the Byzantine Empire and has successfully conquered Greece (at the Southern border of Albania).

An outstanding figure in world history, Gjergi Kastrioti Skenderbeu (AKA Skanderbeg & The Dragon of Albania) [~1405-1468], has united the various princedoms and provinces of Albania in 1443 and has successfully stopped the Ottoman Turks from invading Albania for 25 years. Leaders like Skanderbeg in Albania, John Hunyadi in Hungary and to a lesser extent Vlad III in Wallachia (yes, Dracula!) are credited by most historians with delaying the Muslim advance and giving the rest of Europe time to solidify its defenses.

Skanderbeg and the King of Naples are very close allies. I haven’t found any explanation of why, perhaps just as a future fall-back, in the early 1460’s Skanderbeg sends ~5000 Albanians to live in Italy. After Skanderbeg’s death, the resistance begins to crumble and many more Albanians flee. The King of Naples welcomes a large number of these refugees into his domain. Some of these refugee populations, now known as the Arbereshe, settled in groups creating new villages. One of these is Casalvecchio di Puglia (Albanian:Kazallveqi).[Pronounced by my Aunt as Ka-sal-veck]

This village is, according to our oral tradition as well as what appears on the immigration documents, our family’s point of origin prior to coming to the USA. There is a plaque commemorating Gjergi Kastrioti Skenderbeu's life gracing a building at #11 Corso Skanderberg, which is one of the main streets in Casalvecchio. Also note on google maps that the main ‘state’ highway, SP10, running from Torremaggiore connecting into SP5 (which goes into Castelnuovo Della Daunia) is called the Viale Albanesi d’ Italia (the section near Casalvecchio).

Since we see some Castelnuovo listings on the immigration documents I include what little bit of info I could find about Castelnuovo Della Daunia: “The old name was Castelluccio degli Schiavi, the word "schiavi" referring to the Slavic populations that took refuge in Apulia and other parts of Italy starting from the late 15th century.”

The two towns are so close to each other, I’m not sure yet if I can separate out who actually came from either.

2013 update....It is now certain that the Andreola heritage is from Albanian roots and that our 'cousins' still living in Casalvecchio consider themselves to be "Arbereshe" [1].

September 2014 Notes

I started this family tree investigation out with the Andreola portion first. As this date, significant progress has been made on all family lines except the Andreola line. I'm still struggling to gather information from overseas. I'm currently doing a fairly broad dive into my Tilton family centered in Ogle County, IL. and my Walton/Delp/Hackler family centered in Grayson & Lee Counties, Virginia. I intend to return to the Banks-Standley-Frost families after I complete these efforts. {is there really ever such a thing? HA!}

One thing that has become increasingly clear as I research my maternal ancestors; my grandmother & grandfather represent the "reunification generation". What I mean by that is that the overwhelming majority of my 'Greats' & 'Great-Greats' on my grandmother's side (the Waltons, Hacklers, Keeneys etc....) fought for the South in the Civil War with the opposite on my grandfather's side ( the Frosts, Tiltons, Banks etc...) predominantly being veterans from the North. Audrey & Jack are the first couple I've found that married across these former "enemy lines".

August 2020 Notes

I have taken a genealogical break and haven't been active here in a couple of months but want to add a few general notes to all the cousins and to those who share ancestry, often through Milford Massachusetts back to Casalvècchio di Pùglia Italy, that have discovered my efforts to connect us at this website. I have immensely enjoyed the contacts and e-mail exchanges with all of you recently.

UPDATE 3/28/2021: I have moved all of this information into a personal category. You can get to the category by this link:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Andreola-1%2C_Casalvecchio_List

As you look at any of the profiles of people associated with Casalvecchio, you can also click on the green box titled Categories near the top of the page (followed by "Comments", "Matches" & "Sources"), this will take you to the bottom of the page where you'll see Categories: Andreola-1, Casalvecchio List, clicking on that link will also take you there.

Sources

  1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arb%C3%ABresh%C3%AB_people

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  • Nick Andreola: Family Tree DNA Y-DNA Test 37 markers, haplogroup R-M269, FTDNA kit #785975
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RE your Albanian roots... I did a Y DNA test at FTDNA. My last name is Americanized from Martinucci.. My great grandfather is from Lombardy. However, my Y DNA is pretty rare currently and I have very few matches. The closest match I have is a commune in central Italy where my match tells me, they all speak Albanian. The next closest matches are scattered about the middle east.
posted by Lance Martin
Ciao Nick,

what a huge job you did! Really interesting, and who knows where you can still go! My father's family, on the paternal side, is from Puglia, and as a child, on summer vacation, I often heard "There (vague indication) is the city of the Albanians" - always a bit mysterious - But the relatives of Puglia have never given importance to family memories. On the other hand, this great-grandfather Payson (maternal) was very fond of research and genealogy, and when I got his papers I went in that direction. I must say, without particularly loving them, a world so far from mine, a bit like a drama :-). But it's funny, sometimes surprising. So, thanks again for your kind words! And I don't forget that you gave me a star :-) on the translation of a letter

posted by Gio Ponzetta
edited by Gio Ponzetta
Nick: Thanks for the update on Zordan tree. New to WikiTree and go on and off it, since I am having a hard time figuring out the format. So wasn't sure what the "rabbit trail", as someone else described, was. By filling in the Passenger List, etc. on family tree I now understand; which I will go retrieve some of that documentation - and just thought somethings got pulled over from Ancestry or Family Search. So still trying to figure out WikiTree. Was hopeful this site would maybe have a different format to assist in finding family facts. So thank you for assistance.
posted by Anne Marie LeClair
SALING-The Saling Family in America by Jo Ann Smith and James H. Head, 2020, is not the ultimate authority on the Saling family. My personal communications with James H. Head since the publication has given him much additional information on the Saling family, and about current DNA research in particular. The addition of John Saling (1765-) as a son of George Adam Saling was based upon an accumulation of DNA data which is still ongoing. Smith and Head were completely uninformed and unaware of any Saling DNA research when they were writing this book.
posted by Bill Vincent Ph.D.
edited by Bill Vincent Ph.D.
hi nick

THANKS FOR ANY HELP LOOKING FOR MOTHER OF carlo cueroni cueroni -1 i posted rest of his family carlo born 1904- in ISPRA ITALY died 21 oct 1975 family cueroni-1 -7-8-10- thanks for any clues

sorry

I MUST BE LOUSING IT IN STORM THANKS FOR FIXING MY MISTAKES LEON

Hi! Thanks for improving the profiles of Emmanuele Sannicandro-8 & his son Michele Sannicandro-2. They are two profiles from a gedcom that I helped my grandson upload in 2015. If you would like to be a manager of those (or others), let me know & I'll add you.

Cheers, Liz

P.S. I am not related to them, but he is - see https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:Relationship&action=calculate&person1_name=Sannicandro-8&person2_name=Lavallee-120

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
that was the fasted and best comebacxk

do yo run all way too italy and back this is more than once you have made me look good they think initaly.... i know what am doing -and all the time i just know you. thanks again stay safe

Consider it my birthday gift Leon!

PS--I just sent you your grandmother's birth certificate from 1879 in another e-mail

posted by Nick Andreola Jr
Just noticed we might be 9th cousins 1x removed. There's an Uncertain at your connection Elizabeth (Parcell) Frost.
posted by T Stanton
That's cool! Elizabeth Parcell is just one of many of my ancestor's profiles that were part of gedcom uploads in the early days of wikitree. SLOWLY (HA!) I've been trying to work through them, verify and mark certain etc...so much to do!

The G2G post you replied to is part of that effort....the Frost, Burris, Clow & Tilton families of early Ohio are interwoven...understanding more about one helps give insight to the others and I appreciate your time looking into it!

posted by Nick Andreola Jr
Hi again, don't know why I'm searching for Ola Frost, w/o Andrew Tucker, but ... I found on ancestry.com with decent sources, that she was daughter of Edwin Jefferson Frost who was son of Jedediah and Nancy Bell Frost. Let me know if you'd like more info on this. :D
posted by Beth (Brown) Golden
Hi Beth,

I've had so many irons in the fire, I don't seem to ever find time to continue my research on Jedediah Frost. I've removed my 'Temporary (Ha!) Notes' until I can realistically find the time to dig into that research....I am truly grateful for your patience!

Nick

posted by Nick Andreola Jr
Glad that you've begun the research notes on Jedediah Frost. Perhaps rather than using "I" you could mention your name so folks aren't confusing the notes with me? best of luck in sorting it out! PS I just found this info on the Frost family of the southern US (including Jedediah b.c. 1754 VA and wife Sarah Vandiveer b.c. 1751 MD, which may be of help. Unfortunately, no sources are given https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/K852-7G5
posted by Beth (Brown) Golden
Hi Nick, thanks so much for suggesting the merges for Jedediah and Nancy Bell Frost. I'm guessing that you're a direct descendant. If so, I'd be glad to transfer management of their profiles to you. Just let me know.
posted by Beth (Brown) Golden
Thanks Nick for doing all this work. I too am trying to figure it all out.

I am the granddaughter of Lucy Andreano Piantedosi, and the daughter of Angelo Piantedosi, both on the Adreano family tree you created. Thanks again!

posted by Gina Piantedosi
Thanks Nick, I'm still trying to figure out how this page actually works. My father is the one who sent me the Michele (Michelearcangelo) DeLuca link and I started doing some research from there.

I'm trying to avoid paying out the nose to get the info. I have been using this page as well as FamilySearch.org.

posted by Christopher DeLuca
Nick, thanks for the message. I appreciate being able to help with the family history. I'd like to send you a copy of the "family book" (if you don't have one)

, maybe you'd send me an address to my regular e-mail

posted by Joseph Walsh
Thank you for all your time and effort, you have done a great job. Maybe we will meet at a Walton Family Reunion one day.

Ginger Frye, SC

posted by Ginger Frye
Nick, you asked where I found Reuben Jordan Walton's middle name. It is on his daughter's, Estella Clyde Walton, birth record. Source is

North Carolina Birth Index, 1800-2000.

posted by Linda (Walton) Lenhard