Stephen Heathcote
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Stephen Heathcote

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Stephen Heathcote
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Stephen Heathcote was born in Derbyshire, England.
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Stephen has been a member of the England Project for over 1,000 days.
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I am from Derbyshire, and have family origins almost entirely in the North Midlands, predominantly Derbyshire and Staffordshire. I have been researching family and local history in these areas for 30 years.

Within WikiTree's England Project, I am team leader for Derbyshire and project coordinator for categories.

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Hello Stephen,

Out of curiosity I checked our genealogical relationship and found that you and I are related through a shared Great Grandfather Reynold de Grey

Sandra Harrison Vasko

Hi again. Yesterday you edited the marriage between George Houlgate-45 and Elizabeth Winson. There are mistakes in George's profile and I'm not experienced enough with wikitree to know the best way to correct them.

George Houlgate-45 is a mixture of two different George Houlgates. Number one married Elizabeth Winson. He was born in Mugginton in 1799 and christened the same year in Turnditch. His parents were Joshua Houlgate and Alice Ride. He appears in census returns with Elizabeth & children and was a farm labourer. He remarried in 1852 after Elizabeth's death and was in Repton for the 1871 census with his 2nd wife, Ann Buxton, where he died in 1878 aged 78. Number Two is the George Houlgate to whom the will discussed in the profile belongs to. He was christened in Quarndon on 11 September 1875. His parents were GeorgeHoulgate and Hannah OrmeHe lived in Quarndon/Hazelwood all his life and never married (which is why he left nothing to his own children). Census returns show he was a farmer of 33 acres. He died in Quarndon in 1869 aged 83.

I have tried contacting the profile manager, but I don't think he's active any more as there are no answers to comments after 2017. I know from his own info he was born in the 1930s so perhaps not surprising.

It's a big ask=but if you have time to let me know how you tackle this (if you wish to) I'd be glad to learn. Thank you

posted by K Pearson
Thank you for finding this error. The other George Houlgate is George Houlgate (1785-1869). I will clean up his profile and transfer the appropriate information across.
posted by Stephen Heathcote
Hi Stephen, our paths have crossed frequently while I have been visiting my Beardsley ancestors. Firstly, thank you for your helpful suggestions recently. I'd like your opinion on a possible marriage for Beardsley-72, William Beardsley. The marriage is that of William Beardsley of Derby to Sarah Roulston of Shottle on 10 June 1671 at Duffield. I think its probable as William's first child (William) was christened the following year in Duffield but William Senior resided in Shottle. Would welcome your input,( I agree with your comment on the profile that the birth details for William-72 are incorrect. I also think he would have been younger).
posted by K Pearson
Thank you! That's an interesting find. I assume we are talking about the parents of Beardsley-72. The parish register says "Will Beardsly and Sarah Roulston of Shottle Marr". Unless there was more than one William Beardsley in Shottle it must have been a second marriage, as there were two daughters in 1664 and 1668.

I see it's 20 days since I posted the comment about the incorrect birth record for Beardsley-54, without response from the PM. I will edit the profile accordingly.

posted by Stephen Heathcote
Hi Stephen,

Thank you for your commitment to the England Project and its goals in 2023! Together we are making English WikiTree profiles the best they can be!

I'd like to share our end-of-year 2023 Newsletter. You can read it here: England Project Newsletters. We hope you enjoy reading about what we have achieved in 2023!

On behalf of all the England Project Leaders, we wish you a peaceful, productive and enjoyable 2024!

Best wishes,

Joan, England Project Leader

Re: Bilton in Yorkshire, I left a comment on EditBot's profile: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/WikiTree-3#comment_7527480

(there's another Bilton near Hull - I created a new category for it)

posted by Katie Fuller
Thank you. The category was set up (gazetteer and map references) for Bilton near Harrogate. I renamed it to avoid confusion with Bilton in Ainsty, but didn't check all of the profiles in the category. This is a frequent problem in Yorkshire.
posted by Stephen Heathcote
Hi Stephen

We are delighted to announce a new Profile Improvements Team namely the England Tangled Families Team which will be formed by merging the Arborists, Gedcoms and Unknown Teams,

As we know tangled families are created from old GEDCOM’s which cover many generations resulting in the need to merge profiles and having to disconnect others together with finding unknown spouses and family members.

The merging of the existing three teams into one exciting new team will hopefully reduce duplications and definitely will increase collaboration between you our experienced and dedicated members.

Team Leader for the England Tangled Families Team will be Fran Weidman who has agreed to manage the team bringing her excellent knowledge and experience from creating and managing the Unknowns Team together with Fran’s five year membership of the England Project.

Currently as a member of one or more of the named teams we are asking you to join our new amalgamated Tangled Families Team and letting us know by contacting Joan Williams or Malc Rowlands through Discord Messaging, England Project Google Group or Private WT Message if you want to join our new team.

Kind regards

Joan and Malc

posted by Malc Rowlands
Dear Stephen,

On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for your commitment to the project's goals. Every single contribution you make helps improve English profiles!

The England Project Leaders like to touch base with each of our members periodically to make sure everything is going well. This is our formal annual check-in with you.

Are you happy to with your current project team choices? Would you like to join any other teams?

Also, we would really like to hear which team is currently your highest priority. If you are a member of more than one team, could you please rank them from highest priority to lowest? Thank you! If you don’t see yourself as being part of a team, please let us know.

We also welcome any feedback on things you would like to see the project do more of in the future.

I look forward to hearing from you. Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message.

On behalf of all the Leaders, thank you again for all you do and we look forward to you continuing to be a part of our collaborative and fun Project!

Kind regards,

Steve, England Project Leader

posted by Steven Whitfield
Stephen, I wanted to thank you for advising me about the free online John Palmer Derbyshire Parish Registers database. It's incredibly useful and I am 'blowing a kiss' and making a best wishes prayer to 'his' team members who made this work possible regardless of where they may all now be.
Hey Stephen

Do you ever go to the archives at University of Nottingham?

Hello Maryann

Rarely. I no longer live in the area, but do go back from time to time. Is there something specific you need to look at?

Stephen

posted by Stephen Heathcote
Thank you for the quick Agard connections. Since you're pre-1500 certified, please could you also connect Clement Agard's wife (Eleanor (Middlemore) Agard (1515-)) to her parents' profiles?
Thank you. I have connected those parents.

I have also noted your comment about Clement Agard's possible mother, but think that hypothesis needs further research. I will leave it as a comment on his father's profile for now.

posted by Stephen Heathcote
Agreed, I'm not gong to try to untangle that one.
Hi Stephen, hope all going well with you, just wondering if you have someone on the England category team who wouldn't mind having a look at this error list and checking out any England categories, they are all empty categories and need some relevant category content added. https://www.softdata.si/wt/Cat/Err_8062.htm

Many thanks, regards, Margaret, Categorization project.

Thank you very much for alerting me to the problem with my profile of my relative, Florence Annie Bird. I am a newbie and meant to return and try to fix the issue, but I had got distracted by other tasks. The incorrect version is now merged with the correct one. I really appreciate your help, Kay TriCsli.
posted by K Pearson
Dear Stephen,

On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals. Every single contribution you make helps improve English profiles!

I'd also like to share our annual Newsletter with you. You can read it here: England Project Newsletters. We hope you enjoy reading a bit about what has gone on in 2022 and what our Project has achieved.

The England Project Leaders like to touch base with each of our members every 6 months just to make sure everything is going well. There's no need to reply to this message unless you have something you'd like to let us know about (e.g. if you would like to change your team choices or provide other feedback). We will be in touch with you again in the middle of next year when we do our annual check-in with project members.

On behalf of all the Leaders, I wish you a peaceful and productive 2023.

Best wishes,

Amelia, England Project Leader

posted by Amelia Utting
Hi Stephen,

We are conducting a check-in with the England Data Doctor Team, you have been a member for some time and we thank you for all the work you do, it is appreciated. Please let us know if you wish to remain with the team, so we can update our lists. Are you still happy to look after Derbyshire?

Look forward to hearing from you

Janet and Derrick

posted by Janet (Langridge) Wild
Yes, I review the new Derbyshire suggestions every week, and try to make inroads into the older ones when I have a chance.
posted by Stephen Heathcote
Thank you for sorting my Thomas Heathcote yesterday - I don't know what happened there - I must have left it in draft and then saved it later from an older page! I don't like the "draft" function!
I didn't realise you were still working on him, and assumed the date of birth was a guess from the second marriage. I recognised him from my off-line file. The date of birth matches Thomas son of Thomas christened in Hanbury, Staffordshire, which is close to where my family are from, but I haven't found a connection in 25 years of searching. Will keep on digging!

All the best Stephen

posted by Stephen Heathcote
Hi Stephen,

On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals over the past year. Every English profile we improve helps!

The England Project Leaders are currently doing our six-monthly check-in with all project members.

Are you happy to with your current project team choices? Are there other teams you would like to join or become more active in?

We also welcome any feedback on things you would like to see the project do more of in the future.

I look forward to hearing from you. Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message.

Many thanks!

Joan, England Project Leader

Thanks Stephen, not only for all of the work on the Woodings/Archer line of descent that we share, (which I am sure will one day lead me to the 'missing link' that I have been searching for to one of the people I am searching for there), but for all the other work you do, (which helps me quickly eliminate links to other names in my tree. You're a Star!
posted by Amanda (Maguire) Meier
Pleased to be of help! Is there something specific you're looking for? I have an extensive off-line tree, which I am copying across to WikiTree sporadically, so there may be something of interest I've not yet added. But the Woodings are difficult.

It was reference to your Slater line in one of the Archer wills which provided the proof that Isabella Woodings née Archer belonged in that family, even though she had been erased from her father's will.

posted by Stephen Heathcote
Cheers Stephen.. As you mentioned, the Woodings family are difficult ones, but I had a train of thought about that one . I grew up near to Polesworth, (which is near the 'Four Counties' area at Orton on the Hill, Tamworth, and not very far from the South Derbyshire/East Staffs border. I wondered if they were originally from around the South Staffs/North Warks area.

What made the Woodings, Archer and Slater families more difficult was the geographical position of places on the border like Doveridge, sometimes under Uttoxeter, which is in Staffordshire, others under Derbyshire, etc etc.. Really, it's the Brown family that I think have the clue to many of my other relatives. There was a lot of intermarrying on my Slater line (my great grandparents were 1st cousins). As a result, I am stuck with fewer possibilities for research on that one, as my 2nd great grandmothers are also my 2nd great grand-aunts. I am pretty sure that this was not the first occurrence... So it all lies with the Browns of Abbot's Bromley (although they had moved to out of Abbot's Bromley by the end of the 1800s). So it could turn out that we are closer than 13th cousins... I also research mainly Staffordshire/Warwickshire/'Four Counties' and Black Coutry area. Got a real mystery going on in the Walsall/Perry Barr/Birmingham area at the mo... on the other side of the family. You know when you get 3 or 4 people born within a few miles of each other with the same name, almost the same area (within a few miles of each other), similar age, etc etc. Got that problem with some Smallwoods - Aaaaagh!!!

posted by Amanda (Maguire) Meier
You've prompted me to have another look at the Woodings, and I'm getting less certain. I've just ordered the will of John Woodings who died in 1861, in the hope that that has some useful information. He was unmarried, and those wills often name reams of nephews and nieces. Fingers crossed!

I'd assumed the name Woodings related to Needwood Forest, which is where they seem to be.

Do our Abbots Bromley Browns intersect? I've done a lot of work on their various strands, to try to disentangle them.

posted by Stephen Heathcote
Hi Stephen,

Thanks for making the changes / additions to the Gresley tree - i started it a few years ago, and like everything life got in the way.

I've been having a quick read of your Bio / tree and will be surprised if we're not linked someway back. My mums family Hardwick / Bourne / Whittaker / Powell / Steel(e) and a good selection of Smiths are everywhere, farming from Tissington & Croxden through Burton and down into Ashby. With a some brewers in Burton (of course) and Newhall. Dad's side Wilkins / Waterson / Eaton / Findley / MacKellow and more Smiths were mainly miners and at the pot works from Newhall, Overseal, the Gresleys, Ashby & Appleby. With some traders in Burton - shoemaker / town crier / butchers.

posted by Alison Wilkins
Hi Stephen - You have a DNA Match to my Dads Half sister - KT / SH Our Great G Grandather Was born in Derby, Robert Hibbert/ step Father was William Gray and his mother was Mary Hibbert from West Hallam Derbyshire. I will message you my story. they are all very interesting.

Take care I Enjoyed reading your story. Yolande (nee) Hibbert

posted by Yo Hibbert
I'd be interested to see details of the match. Are you thinking that Robert Hibbert's unknown father might have been one of my Ilkeston relatives?
posted by Stephen Heathcote
From your friends at the Appreciation Team:

Congrats on the Super Star Badge!

posted by SJ Baty
Hi. Regarding All Saints Church, Rickling, I don't quite know what to say. I certainly didn't create the category as a cemetery. The church was much more than that, a place to be baptised, to marry and just to worship or somewhere to go for a little peace or indeed someone's place of work. I personally would use the category I created for all those things. I also try to remind people that not everyone buried at a church was buried in the churchyard (to little avail). It seems then that we have three different categories developing, burials in the churchyard, burials in the church, and other important life events taking place within the church, including building, refurbishment etc. I was quite happy when churchyards were graveyards and cemeterys were something else. My view seems to be at odds with what is going on in the projects and since I was told that a memorial is a cemetery even if no one was buried there I've decided to keep out of it. Best of luck, regards, C
posted by C. Mackinnon
Thankyou for the edits :)

As I wander through the local history Wirksworth came across The Red Soil Mine Murders and 2 witnesses at the trial were Joseph and James Heathcote. Think Joseph said he was visiting his grandfather's farm.

posted by Cathleen Bellenes
Thank you for that nugget. I wasn't aware of the Red Soil Mine murders. Joseph Heathcote I think must have been Joseph Heathcote (1812-1863): his father was a farmer at Taddington, but Joseph had moved to Manchester by 1838. I can't immediately see who James Heathcote might have been.
posted by Stephen Heathcote
I've set up a category for the Red Soil Mine incident, and have added Joseph and James Heathcote to it. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Red_Soil_Mine%2C_Sheldon%2C_Derbyshire%2C_1833
posted by Stephen Heathcote
https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/LY7Z-D24/sir-nicholas-glossop-v-1438-1514

I am related to the Cromwell family though my ancestor grandfather Roger Williams and others

posted by Sharon Smith
I have been researching the Meverell family of Throwley, Staffordshire. There seems to be some connection between Thomas Cromwell and the Meverells, but I have yet to establish precisely where it came from.
posted by Stephen Heathcote
Hi Stephen!

I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the goals of the England Project during the past six months. We've achieved a huge amount during this period and we couldn't have done it without you and our other project members.

As the England Project Leaders, we are completing our six monthly check-in with all project members.

Are you happy to stay in your current project team/s? Which team/s are you most active in? Are there other teams you would like to join or become more active in?

Also, do you have any feedback on what the project is doing well and anything we could do better in the future?

Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message. I look forward to hearing from you.

Many thanks!

Ian, England Project Leader

posted by I. Speed
Thanks Ian. I'm happy with the current teams. I continue to focus primarily on Derbyshire suggestions, particularly the ones requiring research.

Stephen

posted by Stephen Heathcote
Thank you Stephen!

Cheers, Ian

posted by I. Speed
I am writing to the Derbyshire category team leader. I am categorising profiles, and have Stevenson-8773 christened at Breaston, Derby, England. Can a category for this village and its parish church be created?
posted by Nick Miller
Hello Nick

I've set up the categories as requested. Best regards

posted by Stephen Heathcote
Hi Stephen,

My Mothers maiden name was Bancroft born in Bucklow Cheshire in 1921. Yet on ancestry from my dna results I am getting lots of names showing up for Bancroft-28 and Bancroft-37 is this possible?

posted by Cliff Truesdale
That's a long way back to be getting DNA matches, but if there are lots of them it suggests you are on to something. The two individuals you mention are only speculated as having come from Derbyshire (which is where my interest is): if you are matching those and not the descendents of the Bancroft emigrants known to have come from Derbyshire, that suggests to me that those two individuals probably came from Cheshire, not Derbyshire. I think that should be posted as a comment on their profiles.
posted by Stephen Heathcote
Stephen, thank you for the requested Attachments - I was able to read them clearly. I cannot argue any more - the information / query re Charles Gage HEATHCOTE cannot be argued with. So, I will be changing the current to Gage Charles Edward HEATHCOTE in due course.

Once again, thank you for drawing this matter to my attention. Keep enjoying your holiday but keep safe.

posted by Peter Forder
Thanks Peter. I've made the change to the formal name, but left the preferred name as Charles Gage if that is how the family knew him.

Best regards

posted by Stephen Heathcote
Very friendly and helpful, and i really appreciate the kindness
posted by Ryan Townley
edited by Ryan Townley
Thank you for finding birth records for the Vickers children!
posted by Jamie Nelson
Hi Stephen,

It's that time of the year again: check-in time! As England Project Leaders, we like to check in with you every six months or so to see how things are progressing. Back in May, we didn't ask for a response due to the rapid emergence of Covid-19 because we understood that people's lives were changing rapidly. While we are still living in a Covid world, we do need to hear back from you this time around.

First of all, how are you doing? What are you currently working on? Are you happy with the team(s) you're in, or would you like to change things up?

Secondly, we're looking for some feedback on the Google Group and our Discord server. Do you use either or both of these? If you don't use either, why not? Do you have any suggestions on how we can improve participation and collaboration, either generally or for you personally?

Looking forward to hearing from you,

Amy, Joan & Lizzie.

posted by Amelia Utting
Hi Stephen

You corrected a birthplace for a relative by deleting the 'United Kingdom' after 'England'. Is this because it is incorrect/unnecessary to say 'United Kingdom' - we should stop at the actual country name? Just trying to learn :)

Thanks

Keith

posted by Keith Wilson
Hello Keith,

It is incorrect to use United Kingdom before 1801, when the UK was created: WikiTree flags this up as an error on the Suggestions lists. Many people would agree that it is unnecessary to use UK in any time period, provided you always put "England" (or whichever constituent country is correct). Thanks for your contributions! Stephen

posted by Stephen Heathcote
Hello Stephen

Your England Leaders are completing the six monthly check in with all team members. Thank you for your work on English Profiles and your work as Regional Coordinator for the East Midlands as well as team leader of Derbyshire, and member of the Staffs, Gedcoms, Categories and Managed Profiles teams.

These are unprecedented and difficult times, and we understand as Project Leaders that your situation may have changed somewhat in the last few months. What we are all able to/ wish to contribute on Wikitree has changed. Please let me know if you are happy with your current role and team choice, or if you wish to do something additional or different. Thank you again on behalf of all the Project Leaders for everything you do.

Jo

posted by Jo Fitz-Henry
Hello Jo,

Yes, all is fine, thanks. There's plenty of time to spend on WikiTree at the moment!

All the best to you too! Stephen

posted by Stephen Heathcote
Stephen I have not got far with the Gadsby ONS other than in Lincolnshire but I can take a look at the profile you mentioned and get back to you.
posted by Hilary (Buckle) Gadsby
I have taken a look at Family Search trying to find images of the Parish Register.

If the person who died was 38 as indicated on the headstone then there are 2 persons here the year of death is not totally clear so a Burial record would be extremely useful. It would also explain why on the Family Search tree Thomas and his wife Mary are still having children when she would be about 50. I strongly suspect we have one couple in each place.

posted by Hilary (Buckle) Gadsby
Thanks Hilary.

The parish register is severely decayed and practically illegible, which is a real problem. I think there are two people here: the one who married Mary Moorcroft in Cubley in 1757 (and had children recorded there); and the one who died in 1786 aged 38. Whether the one who died in 1786 is the same as the person who died without a will whose estate was probated in 1791 to his widow Mary (relative of Edward Mellor, therefore in all probability the 1774 marriage) is not certain - a five year gap is a bit long, but I cannot find another death record in the meantime. I will give the PM time to respond; if he doesn't I will dive in and disentangle.

posted by Stephen Heathcote
Congratulations on your Pre-1500 badge! Please make sure to add pre-1500 to your followed tags so that you can help others on G2G.
posted by Robin Lee
Thank you for your point on WIlliam Pegg. I will review the source to see if I can make sense of it.
posted by Brian Wainwright
Hi Stephen,

On behalf of the England Leaders, I wanted to say a huge thank you for all your contributions towards the project in the past six months as a Regional Coordinator for East Midlands, Team Leader for Derbyshire, Team Member for Staffordshire, GEDcoms and Categories, and a Trailblazer! We've achieved a great deal during this time and we couldn't have done it without you.

Are you happy to stay in your current teams and the project as a whole? Are there any other teams you'd like to join? What are we doing well, and what would you like to see us doing differently moving forwards?

Please respond to this message via e-mail. I look forward to hearing from you.

Many thanks,

Susie, England Project Leader :-)

posted by Susie MacLeod
Stephen, will you stop by to say hello to John Richards from Derbyshire? He's available to help with local enquiries.
posted by Karen Lowe
Hello Stephen,

I was just looking at Unknown-461615 and she looks very much like Jephson-1326. If you agree, I will initiate a merge. Thanks. Chris

posted by Chris Jephson
Hi Stephen,

I have just updated Unknown-478893 to surname Bown, but I am not sure that this is the right James S Jephson. The death in Mansfield 9/1940 was aged 52 years, so born about 1888, whereas the James S Jephson who married Bown was born somewhat earlier. Is there any way to check this? Thanks, Chris

posted by Chris Jephson
Many thanks, Stephen. That would be fantastic. I have a list of about 200 Derby related Jephson's (and Jepson's) (and a separate but shorter one for Chesterfield) and can send them in .doc format if of interest and if I have an e-mail address to send to.

I am not sure what system Carol was accessing, but she said it was a subscription service and she was using it to fill in gaps in the Notts Jephson's. It would be superb if we could do the same for the Derby ones. Please let me know what might work best. Many thanks indeed. Chris

posted by Chris Jephson
Dear Stephen, I have been entering accumulated data on Jephson's into the Wikitree database and have finalised about 1600 of them. In this process, Carol Keeling has been fantastically helpful with tracing data particularly on the Nottingham and Nottinghamshire Jephson's. My own family was predominantly from Derbyshire and I wondered if there was anyone in the Derbyshire team that I might be able to work with on filling in gaps etc. Any assistance would be fantastic! My own profile is Jephson-30. best regards, Chris
posted by Chris Jephson
Thank you so much for all your help on my Derbyshire families, always great having 100% Thank you I appreciate it. You have been a wonderful helper. Thank you Yolande nee -Hibbert
posted by Yo Hibbert
Hi Stephen,

Ada's mother last name was Thacker if I got the right one from GRO. One of the census should tell you her first name and where Ada was born. Hope you can find it as I don't have a sub to any of the paid sites. Regards, Mary