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Pieter Stoutenburg (abt. 1613 - 1699)

Pieter Stoutenburg aka van Stoutenburg, van Oldenbarnevelt, van Stoutenburgh
Born about in Amersfoort, Utrecht, Nederlandmap
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Son of [uncertain] and [uncertain]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 25 Jul 1649 in Nieuw-Amsterdam, Neuiw-Nederlandmap
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Died at about age 86 in New York, Province of New Yorkmap [uncertain]
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Biography

Peter married Aefje Van Tienhoven in the Reformed Dutch Church in New Amsterdam on July 25, 1649. Aefje was the daughter of Lucas Cornelis van Tienhoven and Jannetje Adriensd de Haes, whose sons Cornelius and Adriaen van Tienhoven were in New Amsterdam at an early date). The birth and death dates of Aefje are not known.

Children

  1. Engeltje Stoutenburgh, bapt August 20, 1651, d. abt. 1652 Engeltje Stoutenburgh, bapt January 05, 1652/53, m. February 10, 1670/71 Willem Waldron in New Amsterdam Dutch Reformed Church
  2. Pieter Stoutenburgh, bapt December 13, 1654, d. abt. 1655
  3. Jannetje Stoutenburgh, bapt August 20, 1656, m. August 13, 1679 Albertus Ringo in New Amsterdam Dutch Reformed Church
  4. Wyntje Stoutenburgh, bapt May 08, 1658, d. abt. 1662
  5. Tobias Stoutenburgh, bapt January 18, 1659/60, d. 1715, m. July 02, 1684 Anneke Van Rollegom in New Amsterdam Dutch Reformed Church
  6. Wyntje Stoutenburgh, bapt October 15, 1662, m. November 03, 1680 Gerrit Corneliszen Van Echtsveen in New Amsterdam Dutch Reformed Church Lucas Stoutenburgh, bapt January 10, 1665/66, d. abt. 1666
  7. Isaac Stoutenburgh, b. 1668, d. November 1712, m. July 02, 1690 Neeltje Uyttenbogart in New Amsterdam Dutch Reformed Church

Church Records

Marriage
  • 1649. Jul 25. Pieter Stoutenburg, en Aefje van Tienhoven. [1]
Children's baptisms
  1. 1651 Aug 20 Engeltje, Pieter Stoutenburg. Wit.: Rachel Van Tienhoven. [2]
  2. 1653 Jan 05 Engeltje, Pieter Stoutenburg. Wit.: Geen getuygen. [2]
  3. 1654 Dec 13 ???, Pieter Stoutenburg. Wit.: Geen getuygen. [2]
  4. 1656 Aug 30 Jannetie, Pieter Stoutenburg, Aeltie Van Tienhoven. Wit.: Rachel Vinge. [2]
  5. 1658 May 08 Wyntie, Pieter Stoutenburg, Aefje Van Tienhoven. Wit.: Fredrick Lubbertszen, Tryntje Hendricks, Belitie Cornelis. [2]
  6. 1660 Jan 18 Tobias, Pieter Stoutenburg, Aefje Van Tienhoven. Wit.: Judith Stuyvesant. [2]
  7. 1662 Oct 15 Wyntie, Pieter Stoutenburgh, Aefje Van Tienhoven. Wit.: geen getuygen. [2]
  8. 1666 Jan 10 Lucas, Pieter Stoutenburg, Aefje Van Tienhoven. Wit.: Jan Vinge, Sara Reolofs. [2]
  9. 1668 Sep 26 Isaac, Pieter Stoutenburg, Aechtie Van Tienhoven. Wit.: Jacob Kip, Tryntie Roelofs. [2]

Research Notes

Speculative Account of Origins

See father Willem, there is a Hypothese the van Oldenbarneveldt family also was involved somehow with New Netherland, no real prove ,but there were some things that suggested this.

Pieter's father was Lord Willem of Stoutenburgh. I had found references that he was a treasurer of New Amsterdam and others that he was a treasurer of New Netherland. He had a home on Broad street, east side.

  • source of the above :van Stoutenburgh USA [nader onderzoek gewenst, teveel aannames,op basis van nader onderzoek is de connectie zeer onwaarschijnlijk]

Willem was a great favorite of King Henry IV of France and was a gentleman-in-waiting at the king's court. He had been attached to the Dutch embassy of Francis Aerssens and gave him trouble. Aerssens had reported to Johan Oldenbarneveld that Willem was extravagant, idle, and pleasure loving. Later, Willem became Captain of cavalry and governor of the fortress Bergen op Zoom. After the death of his father Johan, all the family property was confiscated, and he was deprived of his governorship and captaincy. When the war resumed, he was not allowed to serve. Being reduced from a high station to obscurity did not sit well with him. Brooding, William swore to avenge the death of his father and blamed all their troubles on Maurice, the Stadtholder. William was the instigator of a plot to assassinate Maurice. The plot was discovered. Only Willem and van der Dussen, the husband of his cousin,from Elias Barneveld escaped, (though his brother, Reinier, Lord Groeneveld was caught and executed). Willem escaped to Rotterdam and then to Brussels where he lived under the protection of Archduchess Isabella. His wife would have nothing more to do with him and the dishonor he brought upon the family(=not true ,his wife send him money every year). Willem eventually became a Catholic and served as a Captain of Cavalry in the service of the Spanish. It is unknown if there were other children than Pieter.

Willem married Walburg de Marnix. She was the daughter of Jacob van Marnix, the only son of the famous Philip de Marnix, Lord of Alegonde. This is where it comes down to fact and fiction. Willem turned Catholic and dropped his surname for a short time and was just known as "Willem van Stoutenburg" due to the fact that the van Olden Barneveldt family was not in good ties with the Dutch King, Willem van Nassau. Willem may or may not have had children with Walburg.If so, it may or may not have been in wedlock. If Willem and Walburg did have a son, his name would be Pieter van Stoutenburg,assuming the lesser known name "van Stoutenburg" instead of "van Olden Barneveldt" due to his father's actions (true:Willem very often used the name van Stoutenburg instead of van Oldenbarneveldt).

If Pieter was his son, was he smuggled out of the country to the new Dutch settlement in NYC, then known as New Amsterdam? Pieter was very well off in New Amsterdam and had good government positions. If he was a peasant from Amersfoort, then how did he arise to such good standings? Willem has certainly been around, in Belgium and in Spain, it is unknown how many children he probably had. Though Pieter's daughter was named Wijntje, she was also known as Willemijntje or Wilhelmina, the female form of Willem. Whoever Pieter was, even if he was the son of Willem with an unknown woman, he is responsible for the majority of Stoutenburgs in the United States, out of the New York Area.

Pieter van Stoutenberg 1613 - 1697

Birth: 1613 New Amsterdam, New York, Ny Death: Mar 9 1697/98

Father: William Stoutenberg 1587 - ?

Wife: Aefje Van Stoutenberg (born Van Tienhoven) 1628 - ?

Daughter: Jannetje Ringo (born Van Stoutenberg) 1656 - ? [3]

Pieter was born about 1613 near Amersfoort, Province of Utrecht, Netherlands.

Pieter died March 9, 1699 in New York City.[4]

Hij is getrouwd met Aefje van Tienhoven op 25 juli 1649 te Nieuw-Amsterdam (New York).

Surname of Immigrant: Van Stoutenburgh Given name(s) of Immigrant:Pieter Name of Ship: ? Arrival Date: Before 1649

Origin of Immigrant: Stoutenburgh, Province of Utrecht, Holland Immigrant's *Date & Place of Birth: 1618 Holland Immigrant's Date & Place of Death: March 09, 1695/96, New Amsterdam Immigrant's

Sources

  1. Purple, Samuel S., editor. "Marriages from 1639 to 1801 in the Reformed Dutch Church, New York." Collections of the New-York Genealogical and Biographical Society. Vol. 1. New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, 1890. page 15.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.8 Evans, Thomas Grier. "Records of the Reformed Dutch Church in New Amsterdam and New York. Baptisms from 25 December, 1639 to 27 December, 1730." Collections of the New-York Genealogical and Biographical Society. Vol 2. New York: Printed for the Society, 1901.
  3. MyHeritage
  4. The Journal of American History, Volume 12 Page 346
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Acknowledgments

  • This person was created on 14 September 2010 through the import of 124-DeCoursey.ged.
  • Thank you to D.j. Hogan for Stoutenburg-1 creating Van Stoutenburg-1 on 5 Oct 13.




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No source proves the relationship with Willem van Oldenbarnevelt as his father. Dutch historical sources are absolutely clear that Willem van Oldenbarnevelt died childless. There is not any record that Willem should have been father at all. So it would be an improvement of the Quality of Wikitree to remove the parents of Pieter and search for his real parents.
posted by Klaas Jansen
The "sources" for these people mostly seem to be 19th-century-style puffery, full of flowery language and irrelevant details.

Having read some sources, I conclude that numerous American genealogies and histories claim that Pieter was the son of Willem, and they provide plausible-sounding rationales for the absence of Dutch evidence for Pieter's birth. Because the story was repeated so many times, including by respected authors, we cannot simply delete the story -- it will need to be presented, with sources, and discussed in this profile. (If we don't do that, someone will show up and add it again.)

The profile of Willem also lacks "proof" and needs improvement. It should focus on describing Willem's life (ideally with citations to primary sources) rather than on arguing about why he isn't Pieter's father.

For now, I have marked Pieter's parents as "Uncertain" and I will see about adding a template that emphasizes this.

posted by Ellen Smith
Hi,

I think someone has made an error in this profile. Willem van Oldenbarnevelt and his wife didn't had any kids, heirs and Willem didn't had a son born out of Wetlock. Please check multiple official biografies and documents in the Netherlands. For example this document: https://www.dbnl.org/tekst/_onz001190401_01/_onz001190401_01_0013.php

Maybe someone had a great imagination, but I don't think there's any proof and all the official documents state that he died without leaving any family at all.

posted by Margreet Beers
Stoutenberg-26 and Stoutenburg-3 appear to represent the same person because: Duplicate Person
posted by Harold Lansing
Van Stoutenburg-1 and Stoutenburg-3 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest paternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge into the NNS PPP. No tree conflicts. The original sources do not include the van prefix, so that appears to be a later Dutchification on this man. The alternate death is Died September 1698 in New York, New York, USA. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix