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John Drummond succeeded his father, Malcolm, sometime around 1346.[1] His name first appears in the records in 1357 for receiving a grant of the office of bailiary of the Abthanery of Dull, and again in 1360 on an agreement reached between himself, his brother Maurice, Walter Moray, and John and Alexander Monteith which transferred the lands of Rosemeath in the Lennox to the Menteiths.[2]
Sir John Drummond married Mary Montefichet, the oldest daughter and co-heiress of Sir William Montefichet of Auchterarder and Cargill, Justiciar of Scotland.[3] Although the date of their marriage is unknown, Drummond acquired the properties of Stobhall, Cargill, Auchterarder and Kincardine in Perthsire from Montefichet (presumably after his marriage to Montifichet's daughter), and on 21 February 1368 he received a charter from King David II under the Great Seal for "all the lands that had belonged to the deceased William de Monitfex his father-in-law."[1][4] There were at least three children from this marriage:
There are two additional sons who are also sometimes attributed to this family:
The documents cited (by Viscount Strathallan in 1681) in support of William as a younger son of John Drummond and Mary Montefichet have unfortunately been lost and presumed destroyed.[1] James Dunbar Paul questions this relationship on the grounds that William Drummond would have been much too old to have fathered a child with Elizabeth Aird, and argues that the David Drummond who had sasine of Carnock in 1466 could not have been their son.[6]
Dugald is named as a son by MacGregor in The Redbook of Scotland, citing several safe conducts issued to Dugald to travel to England and back, but no reliable sources are given to indicate he was a son of John and Mary.[8]
Sir John Drummond is sometimes said to have died in 1373 but there is no evidence to show that he lived that long, and James Dunbar Paul believes it more likely that he died sometime shortly before 1361.[3]
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I need him to connect my tree at later point. Born circa 1356. Stobhill, Northumberland, Scotland Dead circa 1428. Sources:
He is said to have married Mary Montefichet, the eldest daughter of Sir William Montefichet of Auchterarder and Oargill, and this seems probable, though there is no direct evidence. Also, as he apparently died before 1361, it is not improbable that Sir William Eraser is right in identifying him as the John Drummond of Concraig who married, about 1359, Margaret, Countess of Menteith, and who died before September 1361. There is no certain evidence, and, as already indicated, they may be different men, uncle and nephew.