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Geesje (Unknown) Pieters (abt. 1591 - bef. 1658)

Geesje "Gijsje, Cysje" Pieters formerly [surname unknown] aka Barents, Van Rotmers
Born about in Schleswig-Holstein, Germanymap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 1608 in Altenbruch, Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germanymap
Wife of — married 1639 in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Nederlandmap
Descendants descendants
Mother of , , and
Died before before about age 67 in Albany, Albany, New Yorkmap
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Name

Geesje / Geesjie / Gessie / Gessje Barents[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11]
Geesje Barentsdochter. [12]

Birth

Geesje (family unknown) was born about 1591 in Altenbruch, Niedersachsen, Germany. [13] She married Barent Van Rotmerz about 1611 in Hanover, Stadt Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany. She emigrated July 1640 from Altenbruch, Niedersachsen, Germany to Fort Orange, New Netherland with second husband and two children on the Den Waterhondt. Her will was dated June 1642 and she died about 1658 in New Netherland[13]
1591 Netherlands[14][15]
1591 Holland, Ribe, Denmark[16][17][18]
Abt 1591 Schlesswig Holstein, Germany. [11][12]

First Marriage

Geesje Barents married Barent VanRotmers about 1611 in Hanover, Stadt Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany.
1608 Altenbruch, Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany[19]
  1. Geesje Barents.
  2. Annetje Barents.
  3. Barent Barentsen VanRottmers.
  4. Christian VanRotmers.

Second Marriage

Geesje Barents married Pieter Jacobson VanRynsburg about 1639 in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands[20][21][22][23]

Geesje and her second Husband Pieter Jacobsen are mentioned as being in Beverwyck in 1639 [24]

There were no children from this marriage.

Immigration

Gijsje Barents (Berents) wife of Pieter Jacobsz; is charged with board on den Waterhondt in 1640, and credited with 28 days' work done by her husband on the house of Arent van Curler. It is not unlikely that her husband was the same person as Pieter Jacobsz, constapel of Fort Orange, who on April 15, 1652, by order of Johannes Dyckman tore van Slichtenhorst's proclamation from the house of Gijsbert Cornelisz, the tavern keeper.[25]

Church Records

  • She was assisting her son at his marriage: inschrijvingsdatum: 21-04-1632
    naam bruidegom: Barentss, Barent
    naam bruid: Jans, Annetje
    naam eerdere man: Jorissen, Claes [26]
    Barent Barentss van Oudebroek .....(can't decipher his occupation), oud 22 jaar, geas. met Geesjen Barents zijn moeder ... ... ..... & Annetje Jans van Schoonhove, weduwe van Claes Joris, woont op de Bruin.... .... 10 .... .... sijn .... signed: Barent Barents and x (looks like he could write a bit, but not really well)

Will

Will of Pieter Jacobsen and Gysje Pieters, his wife [22] [in the year] of the birth of our Lord and Savior [Jesus Christ], one thousand six hundred and forty-two, the [ ] of June, new style, before me, C[orn]ells van Tlenhoven, secretary In New Netherland appointed by the General Chartered West India Company, appeared Pieter Jacobsen from Bensborch (note bottom of paragraph) with Gysje Pltersen, his lawful wife, residing In Port Orange, situated on the North Elver of New Netherland, both In bodily health, up and about and having full possession and use of their senses, memory and understanding, as seemed apparent to us, who declared that they, reflecting on the certainty of death and the uncertainty of the hour thereof, and wishing to anticipate all such uncertainty by certain testamentary disposition, have, of their own free will, full knowledge and deliberate Judgment, without Inducement, persuasion or misleading on the part of any one, made and concluded, as they hereby do make and conclude, their testament and disposition of last will in form and manner following, to wit: First, after express revocation and recalling of all testaments and other dispositions whatsoever which they, the testators, or either of them, may before the date hereof have In any wise made, executed or concluded, they the testators, commend their souls always and whenever they shall depart out of as is necessary hereby expressly derogate and render void. They requested that this might be drawn up and recorded by me, Cornells van Tienhoven, secretary aforesaid, and that one or more public instruments thereof be made In due form and delivered to them. Thus done and executed by Pieter Jacobsen and Gysje Pieters in the presence of Bastlaen Crol, commissary at Fort Orange, and A. van Curler, witnesses hereto Invited, who with me, the secretary, have signed this in the record. Done in Fort Amsterdam, New Netherland. This is the X mark of Gysje Pieters, above named. Note: Intended for Bynsburch, or Bljnsburg, a village near Leiden. See Early Becords of Albany. 3:226, and Van Bensselaer Bowler MSS.. p. 822, where the name of Pieter Jacobsen's wife is given as Gysje (Geesie) Barents, so that she was called Pieters after her husband. Another translation of the will Is printed in Annals of Albany. 4:47-48. [27]

Probate

10 Jul 1663 Ft. Orange, NY
Note: Children of Annetje & Albert BRADT filed for collection of the estate of van RYNSBURG, source: Early Records of the City and County of Albany, NY & Colony of Rensselaerwyck by Jonathan PEARSON.[28]
Geesjie filed a joint will with Pieter Jacobsz van RYNSBURGH, a gunner at Ft. Orange, NY in Jun-1642. On 12-Apr-1648, Pieter paid for an adult pall at Ft. Orange, so it is likely that Geesjie had died that previous winter or in the spring.
Annetje BARENT's mother, Geesie BARENTS, so called probably as wife of Barent, was in this country, at Fort Orange, as early as 1642, when she made a joint will with her second husband, Pieter JACOBSEN, calling herself "Gysje PIETERS," meaning wife of Pieter, in which all their property was left to her daughter, "Annitje ALBERTS," ALBERTS in this usage meaning wife of Albert. In 1667, Geesie BARENTS was still living and stood sponsor at Kingston at the baptism of her great-granddaughter Cornelia, daughter of Roeloff SWARTWOUT and Aefje Albertse BRATT (American Genealogist).

Death

It is most likely that Geesje died between 1642[11] and 1658[12][29] in New York.

Since Pieter made the first of three payments to the deacons of Fort Orange for an adult funeral pall, on 12 April 1658, it appears that Geesie had died that previous winter or spring.

Bef 1663 New Amsterdam, NY[30][31]

Some genealogies say that Geesje lived to after 1667, citing the baptism of her great granddaughter Cornelia Swartwout[32], which lists a Geesje Barents as a witness.[33] However, as shown in her will, Gisje was then known as Pieters and so this witness must be someone else.

Research Notes

Grietje Unknown has been detached as a daughter, per a comment on her profile and a G2G post, having received no objection. See also the case against these parents presented on a freespace page.

Sources

  1. ↑ New York Genealogical Records, 1675-1920 Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record nygenrec_ga #30163.
  2. ↑ New York Genealogical Records, 1675-1920 Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record nygenrec_ga #30177.
  3. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #59440 Data: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho
  4. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #59441 Data: Text: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho Marriage date: 1608 Marriage place:
  5. ↑ New York Genealogical Records, 1675-1920 Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record nygenrec_ga #30163.
  6. ↑ New York Genealogical Records, 1675-1920 Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record nygenrec_ga #30176.
  7. ↑ New York Genealogical Records, 1675-1920 Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record nygenrec_ga #30177.
  8. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #59440 Data: Text: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho
  9. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #59441 Data: Text: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho Marriage date: 1608 Marriage place:
  10. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #59442 Data: Text: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho Marriage date: 1661 Marriage place:
  11. ↑ 11.0 11.1 11.2 Find a Grave, database and images (accessed March 18, 2024), memorial page for Geesje Barents Von Rotmers (1591–1642), Find A Grave: Memorial #148438435; Burial Details Unknown; Maintained by William Lee Doran (contributor 48545236).
  12. ↑ 12.0 12.1 12.2 Find a Grave, database and images (accessed March 18, 2024), memorial page for Geesje Barentsdochter Rynsburgh (1591–1658), Find A Grave: Memorial #127223706; Burial Details Unknown; Maintained by Robert DeVowe (contributor 48224154).
  13. ↑ 13.0 13.1 Early New Netherland Settlers, by Robert Gordon Clarke. Cites: The American Genealogist: Volume 24 1949 page 231; Olive Tree Genealogy, by Lorine M Schulze, www.olivetreegenealogy.com; Settlers of Rensselaerwyck, by A J F Van Laer, 1908, p. 22.
  14. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #59440 Data: Text: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho
  15. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #59441 Data: Text: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho Marriage date: 1608 Marriage place:
  16. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #59440 Data: Text: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho
  17. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #59441 Data: Text: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho Marriage date: 1608 Marriage place:
  18. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #59442 Data: Text: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho Marriage date: 1661 Marriage place:
  19. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. {Ancestry Record|worldmarr_ga|1264918}} Data: Text: Birth date: 1590 Birth place: Marriage date: 1608 Marriage place:
  20. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. {Ancestry Record|worldmarr_ga|59441}} Data: Text: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho Marriage date: 1608 Marriage place:
  21. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #59441 Data: Text: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho Marriage date: 1608 Marriage place:
  22. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #59442 Data: Text: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho Marriage date: 1661 Marriage place:
  23. ↑ U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900; Yates Publishing (Online publication - Provo, UT, USA): Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004. Ancestry Record worldmarr_ga #59441 Data: Text: Birth date: 1591 Birth place: Ho Marriage date: 1608 Marriage place:
  24. ↑ Munsell, Joel. Annals of Albany, Vol. I (Joel Munsell, Albany, 1869) p. 72.
  25. ↑ "Mapping Early New York," Ship Journey: 1640 - Waterhoudt, bound for Rensselaerswyck.
  26. ↑ Source: Amsterdam archief Marriage 21 April 1632 bronverwijzing: DTB 672, p.112 opmerkingen: Huwelijksintekeningen van de PUI. Archief van de Burgerlijke Stand: doop-, trouw- en begraafboeken van Amsterdam (retroacta van de Burgerlijke Stand) Ondertrouwregister: NL-SAA-26321863
  27. ↑ Historical Documents of NY https://www.newnetherlandinstitute.org/files/4114/0151/9401/Volume_II_-_Register_of_the_Provincial_Secretary_1642-1647.pdf
  28. ↑ Craig, Marion Stark. The Ancestry of Marion Stark Craig. LDS microfiche #6010551. Published in Little Rock, Arkansas, 25-Mar-1985. Text: Marion state that Annetje was given her mother's maiden name because her parents were not married. Gessie 2nd m. Peter Jacobsen van RYNSBURG (d. abt. 1660). Gessie's last will and testament is dated 1642 in New Netherlands.
  29. ↑ Schulze, Lorine McGinnis. The Olive Tree Genealogy (1998) My New Netherland Ancestors.
  30. ↑ The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, vol 123, #1, Jan-1992, pg 17-20 Author: NY Genealogical Society Text: It appears that the ROTTMER family is from Aletenbruch and Ottendorf (in Germany) Oudenbroek and Aterendorp ( in Dutch). This area seems to have been on the North German coast at the mouth of the Elbe River, just east of Cuxhaven. The area is now part of the state of Niedersachsen, and was formerly included in Hannover.
  31. ↑ Title: de HOOGES/BRADT family lineage Author: Dan NEAL. Page: pg 105. Text: She is thought to have died about Apr-1648 and was definitely deceased by 1663.
  32. ↑ Hoes, Roswell Randall. Baptismal and marriage registers of the old Dutch church of Kingston, Ulster County, New York... (De Vinne Press, New York, 1891) p. 6.
  33. ↑ AmericanAncestors.org: American Genealogist, The Volume: 24 (1948) Page(s): 232

See also:

  • The American Genealogist Publication: Whole #96, Oct-1948, vo XXIV, #4, pp. 231-241.




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Linda Crannell
Van Rotmers-5 and Unknown-44707 appear to represent the same person because: Profile was created through an imported gedcom. Birth year the same. Death year different but probably inaccurate. Same husband and daughter. Keep Unknown as LNAB.
posted by Linda Crannell
Mariott-18 Navarro Mariott
clearly Geesje did not die in 1642 and in fact attended her great granddaughter Cornelia Swartwout's baptism in 1667 - unless errors have been made and that was some namesake
posted by Navarro Mariott
Mariott-18 Navarro Mariott
Orange, , who on 15 April 1652 by order of Johannes Dyckman, tore van Slichtenhorst's proclamation from the house of Gijsbert Cornelisz, tavern keeper.

Geesie and Pieter filed a joint will in New Amsterdam in June 1642 leaving all of their separate estates to each other. If Geesie died first, Pieter was to pay her daughter Annatie, twenty carolus guilders. Since Pieter made the first of three payments to the deacons of Fort Orange for an adult funeral pall, on 12 April 1658, it appears that Geesie had died that previous winter or spring. Geesie's daughter, Annetie Bradt, appears to have died early in 1661 since a payment for a pall was made on 13 February that year. source THE NORWEGIAN BRADT FAMILY in New Netherland New York © Lorine McGinnis Schulze

posted by Navarro Mariott
Mariott-18 Navarro Mariott
Gissel or Geesie Barentsdr. [Barentsdochter] assisted her daughter Annatie Barents Van Rottmer at the signing of banns on 27 March 1632 for her marriage to Albert Andriessen. Annetie was 24 years old. When Annatie's brother Barent Barents signed his banns at the age of 22, on 21 Apr. 1632 he too was assisted by his mother. At the time Gissel was living on the Schaepensteegje or Sheep Alley in Amsterdam, Netherlands. Geesie's husband Barent Rottmer is never listed, so it is assumed he died before 1632.

When Geesie Barents came to New Netherland on board "Den Waterhondt" in the fall of 1640 her husband Barent Rottmer was dead. By the end of 1640 she had married Pieter Jacobse Van Rynsburgh, whether in Holland or not is not known. Pieter was probably the West India Company gunner at Fort

posted by Navarro Mariott
Smith-62120 Ellen Smith
Barentsdochter-6 and Unknown-44707 appear to represent the same person because: From the information in the two biographies, it's clear that these are intended to represent the same woman. No parental conflicts. Unknown-44707 is the project-protected profile for her; her actual LNAB has not been determined.
posted by Ellen Smith
Quackenbush-118 Carrie Quackenbush
Barents-29 and Unknown-44707 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest maternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge into the unknown patronymic NNS PPP. No tree conflicts. Thanks! Two Barents von Rottmers were merged together and these wives both represent the same person. The Barents patronymic is believed to have been a reference to Barent von Rottmer and may not be her LNAB.
posted by Carrie Quackenbush
Mix-216 Steven Mix
Barentsdochter-5 and Unknown-44707 appear to represent the same person because: This is the same woman, and she needs to be merged into the NNS PPP Unknown. No tree conflicts. The "Barentsdochter" patronym is most probably false, because somebody seems to have created that along the way of generating this match by thinking that since she appeared with the Barents name in sources, that she must be a daughter of a Barent, and so they wrongly Dutchified it into a full birth patronym. However, she was known as Barents because her first husband was Barent. Calling wives by their husband's name, as in wife of Barent, was common. Her second husband was Pieter Jacobsz van RIJNSBURG, and so she was also known as Geesje Pieters. She should have Barents and Pieters as CLN and AKA. The notes of the match profile Barentsdochter-5 identifies both of her husbands by name, as they are attached to the Unknown patronym profile. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
Van der Walt-440 Philip van der Walt
Barentsdochter-5 and Unknown-44707 are not ready to be merged because: I'm not sure that this is the same person. Totally different regions of birth in the current Germany, marriage dates and other dates.
posted by Philip van der Walt
Van der Walt-440 Philip van der Walt
Unknown-44707 and Barentsdochter-5 appear to represent the same person because: Same name - Barentsdochter is obviously the nearest to correct patronymic; Pieters perhaps refering to her husband or another person.
posted by Philip van der Walt
Mix-216 Steven Mix
Petiers-1 and Unknown-44707 appear to represent the same person because: This is the oldest maternal ancestor in this chain in need of a merge. No tree conflicts. These matches have been reviewed by the New Netherland Settlers Merge Approval System, and the "Green" destination NNS profile is protected as PPP, and the "Merge Pending" profile is now ready and able to be merged into it. I saved the data to the bios. This is explained in the earlier Comments, but her correct birth LNAB is unknown, and her name as Pieters and Barents is how she was known later in her married life by her name as "wife of" her husband's first name, as was common practice back then in some cases. Thanks!
posted by Steven Mix
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Barents-26 and Unknown-44707 appear to represent the same person because: see comments on the profiles. Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett

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