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John Scudder (1619 - 1692)

John Scudder
Born in Kent, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 1642 in Newtown, Long Island, NYmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 73 in Newton, Queens, New Yorkmap
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Biography

1635 -- John Scudder emigrated from England to Salem, Massachusetts Bay Colony on the ship “James” when he was 16.
John Scudder immigrated to New England as a child during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640).

John Scudder married Dorothy King in 1642. In the year that they married, John was granted a half acre lot as a house lot near his 10 acres, located by Kings Cove in "Royalls Neck." This half acre was for "other uses" so he may have had his business there. John was a currier, that is a person who dresses, dyes, and colours leather. During June 1650, he was regularly excused from military training because of his trade, since leather might spoil after a day's absence. He was obliged, however, to pay an 18 pence fine for each day of training he had to miss.

They appear on the Salem Church list in 1647. They had five children and their fourth was Elizabeth, who was born in 1648.

In 1651, John sold their house in Massachusetts and moved to Southold, Long Island. They sailed, along with his brothers Thomas and Henry, from Salem to Southold on the eastern tip of Long Island. Southold was originally settled in the early 1640s by a Salem Minister, John Youngs. It was established as a part of the newly founded New Haven Colony. In 1651 Reverend Youngs brought a boatload of Puritans from Salem and the Scudders were on board.

John Scudder was a currier and tanner of leather while in Salem and he continued this profession after he moved to Long Island. Economically, the region was heavily dependent on small farming, with fishing along the coastal areas, and trade with New England.

1651 - 1657 -- John and Mary Scudder lived at Southold, Long Island.

1657 to 1660 -- John and Mary lived at Huntington, Long Island.

1660 on -- John and Mary lived at Newtown, Long Island. [1]. They were prominent in Newtown where they lived for the remainder of their lives.

On October 3, 1662, John Scudder and others purchased the neck of land commonly called by the English `Plungers Neck' lying on the south side of Long Island bounded on the east by the river Hohosboco, from the Indian Chiefs Womatupa, Wonoxi and Powatahuman.

They made application to the Hon. Richard Nicoll by the inhabitants of Newtown, L.I., June 23, 1663 to empower them to make whatever land purchases they should think fit. In pursuance of said license, in the same year, John Scudder, Samuel Scudder and others did in due form of law purchase of and from the Indian Natives, all that tract of land situate between Mespath Kills and Flushing Creek to hold unto the inhabitants of Newtown forever, by certain deed made under the hand and seal of Powwanhon, Indian Chief dated July 9, 1666.

Mary died on 5 Jan 1668 in Newtown, New York at the age of 44.

In 1668, John owned what was later known as Schenck's Mill on a dammed river in the Buswick area. There was a fever spreading in the area at the time, and the officials felt the dam was stagnating the river and causing the problem. The Court of Newtown ordered that the dam be broken.

On 13 December 1680 John gave his estate to his son, Samuel, in exchange for the maintenance of himself and his wife for the remainder of their lives.

John Scudder died in June 1692 in Newtown, New York at the age of 73.

Name

John /Scudder/ [2][3][4]

Birth

1619 Kent, England[5][6]

Occupation

Currier and tanner.
BET 1642 AND 1680 [7]

Migration

1636 Salem, Essex, Massachusetts[8]
1642 Salem, Essex, Massachusetts
the ship "James."
1651Southold, Suffolk, New York
Land Grant

Marriage

Husband: John Scudder
Wife: Mary King
ABT. 1642 Newtown, Long Island, NY[9]
1642 Salem, Essex, Massachusetts[10][11][12]

Notes

also had birth location: of Groton, England and date of death: 1682-00-00
He sold his house and land on Royall's Neck in Salem, Essex County, Massachusetts and removed to Southold, Long Island that year.
Note: A currier is a specialist in the leather processing industry. After the tanning process, the currier applies techniques of dressing, finishing and coloring to the tanned hide to make it strong, flexible and waterproof. The leather is stretched and burnished to produce a uniform thickness and suppleness, and dyeing and other chemical finishes give the leather its desired color.

Sources

  1. Family of Longstreet, page 74.
  2. Source: #S2 Ancestry Family Trees Text: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/26914960/person/1977601268/facts Note: #N1612
  3. Source: #S316 Page: A - B. Vol. 1, 1999. p. 67-69.
  4. Source: #S316 Page: A - B. Vol. 1, 1999. p. 67-69.
  5. Source: #S316 Page: A - B. Vol. 1, 1999. p. 67-69.
  6. Source: #S316 Page: A - B. Vol. 1, 1999. p. 67-69.
  7. Note: #N14915
  8. Source: #S316 Page: A - B. Vol. 1, 1999. p. 67-69.
  9. Source: #S125551 Data: Text: Date of Import: Aug 28, 2011
  10. Source: #S316 Page: A - B. Vol. 1, 1999. p. 67-69.
  11. Source: #S316 Page: A - B. Vol. 1, 1999. p. 67-69.
  12. Source: #S316 Page: A - B. Vol. 1, 1999. p. 67-69.
  • Source: S316 Author: Anderson, Robert Charles Title: Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633 Publication: Name: New England Historic Genealogical Society; Location: Boston; Date: 1995;
  • Genealogy of the Family of Longstreet Completed. Edward Mayes. Circa 1935. Privately published. Clark T. Thornton, editor. Reprinted 2009. Page 74.
  • S2 Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.; Repository: #R1 NOTEThis information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created.
  • "The Scudder Family of Trenton," Moses Bigelow, Compiler, Somerset Press, 1948, Page 5.
  • ACKERLY, Lucy, The King family of Southhold, Suffolk County, New York, 1595-1901, Privately printed 1901, Page 12. https://archive.org/details/kingfamilyofsout00aker

Acknowledgements

  • Thank you to Bennett Rockney for creating WikiTree profile Scudder-199 through the import of Rockney GEDCOM.ged on Feb 16, 2013.
  • WikiTree profile Scudder-153 created through the import of WORCESTER_2012-07-31.ged on Jul 31, 2012 by Bob Worcester. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Bob and others.

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Note N14914John Scudder was born in Kent, England in 1619 and traveled with his family to Salem in 1636. In 1642 he received a land grant in Salem for himself. In the same year he married Mary King. They appear on the Salem Church list in 1647.
In 1651 John, along with his brothers Thomas and Henry, sailed from Salem to Southold on the eastern tip of Long Island. Southold was originally settled in the early 1640s by a Salem Minister, John Youngs. It was established as a part of the newly founded New Haven Colony. In 1651 Reverend Youngs brought a boatload of Puritans from Salem and our Scudders were on board.
Southold is the oldest English settled town in New York State and their church is the second oldest in New York State, after the Dutch Church in New York City. Originally part of the New Haven Colony jurisdiction, Southhold later joined with the Connecticut Colony in 1662 and was acquired by the New York Colony in 1664.
John Scudder was a currier and tanner of leather while in Salem and he continued this profession after he moved to Long Island.
John and Mary Scudder remained in Southold from 1651 to 1657 when they moved to Huntington. By 1660 they were prominent in Newtown, New York where they lived for the remainder of their lives.
In 1668 John owned what was later known as Schenck's Mill on a dammed river in the Buswick area. There was a fever spreading in the area at the time, and the officials felt the dam was stagnating the river and causing the problem. The Court of Newtown ordered that the dam be broken.
The following was taken from a record of the Scudder Family published in 1883:
"On October 3, 1662, John Scudder and others purchased of the Indian Chiefs Womatupa, Wonoxi and Powatahuman, the neck of land commonly called by the English 'Plungers Neck' lying on the south side of Long Island bounded on the east by the river Hohosboco, with a small brook on the west running into the river before mentioned.
Upon application being made to the Hon. Richard Nicoll by the inhabitants of Newtown, LI., June 23, 1663, empowering them to make what purchases they should think fit of lands situate between the Mespath Kills and the head of Flushing Creek of Long Island In pursuance of said license, in the same year, John Scudder, Samuel Scudder and others did in due form of law purchase of and from the Indian Natives, all that tract of land situate between Mespath Kills and Flushing Creek to hold unto the inhabitants of Newtown forever, by certain deed made under the hand and seal of Powwanhon, Indian Chief dated July 9, 1666."
In the beginning of the year 1686, the Inhabitants received a draft of the new confirmatory charter of Newtown.
The last references I have on John Scudder Senior is a reference recorded in the Town Minutes of Newtown dated December 13, 1680: "John Scudder, Sen. at present inhabitant in Maspeth Kills ... to make over my whole estate unto my son Samuel Scudder ... only to allow myself and my wife comfortable and convenient maintenance ...'
John Scudder died sometime afterwards in Newtown. Mary had died on January 5, 1668. They had 5 children, all born in Salem, Massachusetts.
- www.billputman.com/King.pdf.
John Scudder, about 1642, married Mary, daughter of William and Dorothy King, of England, who came to Massachusetts in 1636. In 1651, he, (John Scudder ), came from Salem to Southold, L. I. He was one of the original purchasers, 1665, of Brookhaven; lived at Huntington, L. I., 1657, and came thence to Messpath, (Newtown), prior to 1660, where he was prominent and influential. Among other children he had Elizabeth Scudder, born about 1648, who married first, Jan Alburtis, second, William Lawrence.
- Historical and Genealogical Miscellany: Data Relating to the Settlement and Settlers of New York and New Jersey. Vol. I-V. 1903.






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Do any of the PMs object to a complete rewrite of this profile to eliminate redundancies and shift to inline citations?
posted by T Stanton
Please go ahead and make those changes. You are not proposing to make major changes; you are proposing to do janitorial work.

This profile is the product of merges of at least 5 duplicate profiles, and the edits you describe are leftover cleanup from some of those past merges. These cleanups can be difficult, so many members are reluctant to attempt them. Thank you for your willingness to take care of the long-standing needs here.

posted by Ellen Smith
Dorothy King's death is stated as Died 5 Jan 1668 in Newtown, Queens, New York, yet the biography states: "On 13 December 1680 John gave his estate to his son, Samuel, in exchange for the maintenance of himself and his wife for the remainder of their lives. " John Scudder must have remarried, but to who?
posted by Eric Anderson
I think this is the same John Scudder:

"The first contract for land (in Brookhaven, Long Island) was made by John Scudder, John Swesie, Jonathan Porter, and Thomas Mapes, who were probably sent in advance for that purpose, none of whom, it is supposed remained here. The first purchase was made of Warrawakin, sachem of Setauk…"& (Thompson, Vol 2, page 291 [1])

A Short bio of Warawakmy says that the Warawakmy Deed was signed 14 April 1655 [2]

Thompson, Benjamin F. (1784-1849); Werner, Charles J., editor, History of Long Island from its discover & settlement to the present with additions and a biography of the author by Charles J. Werner. 3 Volumes. Robert H. Dodd, New York, 1918. Available at Archive.org: volume 1 [3], volume 2 [4], volume 3: [5]

posted by AM Hayes
edited by AM Hayes