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Wijnant Gerritse (Van Der Poel) van der Poel (abt. 1617 - 1699)

Wijnant Gerritse (Wijnant Gerritsz) "Wynant, de Kistemaeker" van der Poel formerly Van Der Poel
Born about in Meppel, Drenthe, Netherlandsmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 1 Oct 1640 in Amsterdam, Hollandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 82 in New York City, New York County, New York Colonymap
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Biography

Wijnant Gerritse van der Poel was an immigrant settler to New Netherland, born (according to information in his marriage record) in Meppel, in the Netherlands, in about 1617.

Wijnant Gerritsen from Meppelen, age 23, registered banns of marriage to Trijntie Rooscholt of Amsterdam, age 21, in Amsterdam on 21 October 1640.[1]

Banns of marriage, 21 October 1640

Sells House in Amsterdam 6 Mar 1653

see "Photos" for document PDF

First Mention of Wijnant Living in the New World 12 May 1654

"Tuesday, May 12 1654
Wijnant Gerritsen is ordered to pay a fine of f25:- [florins] to the officer for not having built upon his lot and f6:- for having fought; to be paid within 48 hours."[2]

Exchange of Lots 21 Aug 1654

[EXCHANGE OF LOTS BETWEEN WIJNANT GERRITSZ AND ADRIAEN DIRRICKSZ DE VRIES] "[4] On this 21st day of August, 1654, before me, Joannes Dijckman, in the service of the honorable Chartered West India Company, commissary and vice director of Fort Orange, there appeared the honorable Wijnant Gerritsz kistemaker, who declared that he has agreed with Adrian Dirricksz de Vries on a certain exchange of their lots, provided that Wijnant Gerritsz, at his own cost, shall take down the shed erected on the lot of the aforesaid Adriaen Dirricksz and move it to his lot, and providing moreover that Adriaen Dirricksz shall receive, and be paid him by Wijnant Gerritsz, four beavers, so that from that time on or at the first opportunity mutual possession shall be had of the aforesaid lots; both parties renouncing completely claim to the others lot, under a pledge of their persons and estates, real and personal, present and future, and further in accordance with the law; and as acknowledgment of the truth, without deceit or guile, the parties sign this with their own hands in Fort Orange, on the aforesaid date.

Wijnant Gerreyts vd Poel

This is the mark of Adriaen Dirrcksz de Vries, placed with his own hand.To which I attest, Joannes Dijckman" http://www.newnetherlandinstitute.org/files/1914/2777/5076/Fort_Orange_Records_16541679.pdf

Obtains Full Ownership of Sawmill

[CONVEYANCE OF SHARE IN SAWMILL BY GEERTRUY PIETERS TO WIJNANT GERRITSEN VANDER POEL] [250] There appeared before me, Johannes Provoost, secretary of Willem Stadt and Colonie Renselaers Wijck, and in the presence of the honorable esteemed gentlemen Marten Gerritsz and Pieter Winnen schepens of the same court, Geertruy Pieters former widow of the late Abraham Pietersen Vosburgh, who declares that she has granted and conveyed, as she hereby does grant and convey, in real and actual possession, to and for benefit of Wijnant Gerritsen vander Poel, her half of the sawmill located in the colonie Renselaers Wijck on the east shore opposite the farm of Sr. Philip Schuyler, standing on the kill which lies on the south side of the farm of Sr. Jeronimus Ebbinck, with all the tools belonging thereto, which she has thereon and that free and unencumbered, excepting only the rights of the lord patroon, without the grantor’s making any further claim upon it, acknowledging that she is fully satisfied and paid for it, giving for it full power to the aforesaid Wijnant Gerritsen, his heirs and descendants or those who may hereafter receive right and title from him, to do with and dispose of the aforesaid half sawmill as he might do with his other patrimonial estate and effects; promising to defend the same against all persons and to free the same from all actions, claims or charges, which hereafter may come against the same, as is right, and further neither to do nor to allow anything to be done against the same, with or without law, in any manner whatsoever, under obligation provided therefor according to law.

Done in Willem Stadt, the 18th of October 1674.
Marten Gerritsen This is the mark of Geertruy Pieters
Pieter Winne set with her own hand
Acknowledged before me
Johannes Provoost, secretary

https://www.newnetherlandinstitute.org/files/4014/2777/5086/Fort_Orange_Records_16561678.pdf

Albany Church

The names of Wynand Gerritsz and Tryntje Wynands are on the earliest known list of members of the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany, New York.[3] There are no surviving Albany Dutch church records from earlier than 1683, but it is likely that Wijnant and Trijntje were active in the church earlier than that date. "Wynand Gerritsz Van der Poel" is recorded as witnessing a baptism in the Albany church in 1683.[4]

Land given to lease

8 Nov 1684 Wynant leased a house and half in Albany to Johannes Kuyler / Cuyler, next to where said Kuyler lives for 14 merchantable beaver skins... Witnesses and signed by Adriaen van ilpenham, Notary public. [5]

Church Records

Baptismal witness
  • 1683 Dec 23. Wynand, of Johannes Van Zant. Witnesses: Wynand Gerritsz Van der Poel.[4]

Will Abstract of

Dated 1695 Febry. 29 - probate 1702 April 17. van der POEL, Wynant, late of Albany City, now of New York. Son Malegardt (Melchior) and son-in-law William van der Bergh. Real and personal estate. Executor Wm. van der Bergh. Witnesses Heyman Coninck of N. Y., bricklayer, Peter Bogart and William Huddleston of N. Y. City, gentleman. Albany Co. Records, Wills, L, p. 81. [6]

Death

Wynant Van der Poel died ca. 1699 at New York City, New York. He is likely buried in the Public Burial Ground currently located at the north end of Trinity Churchyard, Manhattan, between Trinity Place and Broadway. The Public Burial Ground was the primary burial ground for NYC from 1677 until 1701. No record of Wynant's burial has been found.

Sources

  1. Record of marriage banns, from Amsterdam archive. A more specific source citation is needed.
  2. Fort Orange Court Minutes, 1654-1660. Translated & Edited by Charles T Gehring https://www.newnetherlandinstitute.org/files/5414/0284/1848/Fort_Orange_Court_Minutes_1652-1660.pdf
  3. Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany, New York, 1683–1809, Excerpted from Year Books of the Holland Society of New York. Part 1, page 2
  4. 4.0 4.1 Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany, New York, 1683–1809, Excerpted from Year Books of the Holland Society of New York. Part 1, page 42
  5. Early Records of Albany page 572 https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/14836681/person/28124034657/media/19614653-6105-4557-b9af-538e254e693c?_phsrc=NQX872&_phstart=successSource
  6. Calendar of NY Wills page 446. https://ia802703.us.archive.org/27/items/calendarofwillso01fern/calendarofwillso01fern.pdf
  • Pearson, Jonathan. Early Records of the City and County of Albany, and Colony of Rensselaerswyck. Vol. I. Albany: University of the State of New York, 1869. 189-190.
  • Fernow, Berthold. Calendar of Wills on File and Recorded in the Offices of the Clerk of the Court of Appeals, of the County Clerk at Albany, and of the Secretary of State, 1626-1836. New York: Knickerbocker Press, 1896. 446.
  • Venema, Janny. Beverwijck a Dutch Village on the American Frontier, 1652-1664. Hilversum, the Netherlands: Verloren ;, 2003. 468.
  • The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "Pedigree Resource File," database, FamilySearch ([1] : accessed 2016-09-11), entry for Wynant Gerritse /Van Der Poel/.
  • Famous Kin [2]

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The following is an edited, condensed version of two comments previously made:

From the best that I can determine, Wijnant, Trijntje, and at least two children, Melgert and Cornelia, departed the Netherlands after March 1653 and arrived in New Netherland before May of 1654. Wynant was present when he sold a house in Amsterdam in March of 1653, and in May of 1654, he was fined by the Court at Fort Orange for not having built on his lot. The only ships that I can find between these dates are “Graft”, "De Gelderse Blom" and "Coninck Salomon" ("Flower of Gelder" and "King Solomon"). . The ship "Graft" departed Amsterdam on 7 May 1653, but I cannot find an arrival date, or a complete passenger list. Known passengers were "Johan de Hulter and family" (De_Hulter-1), and *possibly* Pieter Quackenbush. In the "Correspondence" files (between Stuyvesant and the Directors General of the WIC in Amsterdam) at the New Netherland Institute, several letters from July 1653 state Geldese Blom and Coninck Salomon are "at Texel, waiting to depart at any moment" for New Netherland, and subsequent letters from early November record the arrival of those ships at New Amsterdam. The ships were at Texel unable to depart because the English fleet had blockaded ships from leaving the Netherlands during the 1st Anglo-Dutch War in June and July of 1653. The Battle of Schveningen was fought between the two fleets on July 31 was not a victory for either side, but it DID "break" the blockade, allowing the two ships to depart on August 23rd; the "Gelderse Blom" arriving at New Amsterdam on Nov 2nd, with the "Salomon" arriving the next day. Unfortunately, passenger listings for these ships for that voyage are not known I is my opinion that Wijnant and his family travelled to New Netherland on the ship “Graft”. Though no list of passengers are known, correspondence from WIC in Amsterdam to WIC in New Netherland states that Johan de Hulter, his family, and “a goodly number of free people, among them some artisans…” made the voyage on the Graft. Having sold a house and lot in March, it would not be unreasonable to sail to the New World in May. Wijnant was 37 years old, and an experienced carpenter and “kistemaeker” (cabinetmaker) – truly a “artisan”. It is true they could have possibly stayed with family In Amsterdam until August… http://thenittygritty.org/nahc/encyclopedia/shipjourney/1653-graft http://thenittygritty.org/nahc/encyclopedia/shipjourney/1653-king-salomon-coninck-salomon http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~wynkoop/genealogy/webdocs/geldblom.htm

posted by David Vanderpool
edited by David Vanderpool
That looks like a good analysis, David.

Very few New Netherland immigrant settlers appear on ship passenger lists. We need to be honest about what we know (and don't know), so the typical presentation of an immigration story like this one would to say that Wijnant departed the Netherlands after 6 March 1653 (when he sold his house in Amsterdam) and arrived in New Netherland before May 1654, as he was fined on 12 May 1654 for not having built on his lot at Fort Orange. Your analysis of which ship(s) he might have traveled on in that time period could be added to the text of the biography as informed speculation. I see no benefit from proposing a particular ship and defending that choice (and anyway it's speculation).

posted by Ellen Smith
Utrecht 1676:

Akkoord - over het vestigen van een plecht f 800,- op haar huis buiten de Weerdpoort Datering: 25-08-1676 Aktenummer: 178 Datum: 25-08-1676 Soort akte: Akkoord Samenvatting: over het vestigen van een plecht f 800,- op haar huis buiten de Weerdpoort Eerste partij: Neeltgen Hendricks van Tielant Overige belanghebbenden: Dirck Janss Croon Notaris: J. DUERKANT Tweede partij:

Anthoni Corneliss van der Poel Verwijzingen: eisen d.d. 4-4-1676 voor het gerecht van Utrecht Toegangsnummer: 34-4 Notarissen in de stad Utrecht 1560-1905 Inventarisnummer: U070a006

This is a notarial deed in the Utrecht Archives with an Anthoni Corneliss van der Poel, living in Albani in America. His mother was Neeltgen Hendricks Tieland. Cornelis Cornelisz van der Poel was "rietdekker en Voerman" (thatcher and carier) in Pijlsweerd (now a neighbourhood of Utrecht, then outside of town) (Found by Mieke)

posted by Jouke De Vries
Nice find! These Netherlands archives are amazing.

The man mentioned as "Anthoni Corneliss van der Poel, living in Albani" in the deed you described is Theunis Cornelissen van der Poel, not this Wynant Gerritse van der Poel. There have been questions about the parents of that Theunis. This deed should help resolve them.

The Duurzaam webadres (in English "permalink URL") for this record is https://hetutrechtsarchief.nl/collectie/609C5BC5BBEC4642E0534701000A17FD

The document image extends over 4 pages. On the first page I can see "Anthoni Corneliss van der Poel" and "Albani" (which are also in the index) and also "Dirck Janss Croon", but I am helpless to read the document (for example, I cannot see where it says that Anthoni was the son of Neeltgen and her deceased husband). Also, I find several additional notarial deeds for Neeltgen Hendricks van Tielant and other parties named van der Poel, which makes me think that there are additional deeds that could help elucidate additional details of the family of Cornelis and Neeltgen.

posted by Ellen Smith
Wijnant's marriage document lists him as being "from Mepple" ("van Meppelen"), but it means just that - he was FROM there (before "living in the Langstraat")...it does not necessarily mean he was BORN there. Unfortunately, there are no records I can find in Drenthe Province with his name, or his parents' in the 1600-1640 time frame.
posted by David Vanderpool
In modern times, "from [place]" is likely to mean that [place] was the most recent previous residence of the named person, but in these older records there seems to be some reason to think that it refers to the place of birth. Still, as you note, these entries are not unambiguous!
posted by Ellen Smith
I agree with Ellen. Although, in western Europe, people were freed from the land about 14C, there was still a strong tradition of associating them with the land of their birth. For example, in 17th century England, public relief for indigent persons was to be paid by their town of origin, rather than their town of residence. There's even a court case on this.
posted by Jim Moore
The earliest contemporary use of the surname "van der Poel" in this family line, that I can find, is a register of a house sale in Amsterdam, on "de Langstraet" by "Trijnte Melgers, wife of Wijnant Gerritsz van der Poel" in 1653. I have downloaded a PDF of the sales document from the Stadsarchief in Amsterdam, and added to this profile, and to Tryntje's.

I am searching for contemporary documentation for Wynant's parents...how can we verify that his parents were indeed Gerrit Reyers and Cornelia Wynant, or for that matter, grandparents were Reyer Gheritsz and Grietken Aerts? I find them listed on many on-line genealogy pages and trees, even in some published books, but technically, it's all "hearsay", isn't it?

posted by David Vanderpool
edited by David Vanderpool
I find another useage of the surname "van der Poel" by Wijnant Gerritsz, in the Fort Orange Records, for the date 21 August 1654, of a transfer of lots between "Wijnant Gerrits kistemaker" and Adriaan Dirricksz de Vries. Wijnant signed the record as "Wijnant Gerreyts v.d. Poel", and Adriaan signed with "his mark".

http://www.newnetherlandinstitute.org/files/1914/2777/5076/Fort_Orange_Records_16541679.pdf "Fort Orange Records, 1654-1679", translated by Charles T. Gehring and Janny Venema, page 5.

posted by David Vanderpool
"married 1 Oct 1640 in Amsterdam"

No Wijnand Gerrits, no Trijntje Melgers were married on that date in Amsterdam.

But the right date is (for the bans) 6 - 10 - 1640.

He was indeed from Meppelen (probably Meppel)

posted by Jouke De Vries
Scott, the Dutch spelling never has the suffixes spelled with capitals such as this. Your Ancestry databases are incorrect.
posted by Philip van der Walt
Vanderpoel-6 and Van Der Poel-153 appear to represent the same person because: Same person. Did not come up when inputting the Van Der Poel profile