Otto
Opdyke
formerly Lourens aka Lourensse, Loras, Lourensen, Louwerensen, Laurenszen, Louronson, op Dyck
Born about in Oost-Vlieland, Friesland, Nederland
[uncertain]
Ancestors [uncertain]
Son of Louris Jansz
and Stijntje Pieters
[spouse(s) unknown]
[children unknown]
Died after
after about age 37
[location unknown]
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Biography
Otto, son of Louwerens Jans and Stijntjen Pieters was baptized in Oost Vlieland (West Frisia, Netherlands), on 4 October 1644. His parents were from Amsterdam and he was born aboard a ship.[1]
- inschrijving doop Aktedatum: 10-04-1644 Plaats: Oost-Vlieland
Bijzonderheden: De ouders zijn Amsterdammers, de dopeling is in het schip geboren.
Dopeling Otto
Vader Louwerens Jans Moeder Stijntjen Pieters [1]
He emigrated to New Netherland, apparently in the company of his parents.
..Peter, (eldest son of Louris Jansen Opdyck,) upon the occasion of the division of his father's estate, voluntarily surrenders to "his mother Stincha Loras" the interest of his portion, "for the bringing up his younger brother," to whom he leaves the principal in case he die first; "his young brother" also leaving to Peter his whole portion in case of death; - a pleasing evidence of mutual affection. The following year, Lourens Petersen conveys lot number 34 at Gravesend, with farming implements, to Peter and Otto, for their shares of the estate. Peter and Otto at the same time acknowledge the receipt, from their "father-in-law" (a very common expression in those days for step-father) Lourens Petersen, of 300 guilders, the portion of "their brother Johannes Loras, according to the dividend of the estate of their deceased father Loras Johnson." They also agree to pay to "their mother Stincha Loras" interest on Johannes' portion, for his support. Two years later Christina, "in behalf of her sons Otto Loras and Johannes Loras," ratifies a sale of the farm made by her son Peter.
9 January 1662: In Witnesse wereunto for the confirmation heareof the said pties have sett their hands the day and yeare above written. Loras Peeters, Pieter Louresse, Otto Louresse (Gravesend Rec. II, 141) [2][3]
Otto Laurenszen from Mispadt (interpreted as Mespath on Long Island, New York) was married to Marritje Jans of New Yorcke, the widow of Jan Jilleszen, in the Reformed Dutch Church of New Amsterdam on 20 February 1667.
Otto Louronson is mentioned in a Staten Island court record from 1681:
"At a Court healt on staton Island by the Constabell and over sears of the seam on this presont Munday being the 3 day of October 1681 Otte Louronson Plf in A Action of debt Edward Marshell (Juner) deft to the valew of - - - - 4.3.4. the Court ordreth upon Balanc of A . , Count the deft to pay to the plf the sum of 3 2s. Ia in such pay as thay shall A gre upon within A A Munths tim from the deat hear of or other wis to Be payed in three months tim in corn at pris Coront to be paid or delevered at Tis Barnson the def to pay the Cost of suet."[4]
Church Records
- 20 February 1667; Otto Laurenszen, j.m. van Mispadt; Marritje Jans, wid Jan Jilleszen, van N. Yorcke[5]
Birth
- inschrijving doop Aktedatum: 10-04-1644 Plaats: Oost-Vlieland
Bijzonderheden: De ouders zijn Amsterdammers, de dopeling is in het schip geboren.
Dopeling Otto
Vader Louwerens Jans Moeder Stijntjen Pieters [6]
Name
- Name: Otto /Updike/[7]
Sources
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 Alle Friezen Baptism 10 April 1644 Baptism Bronvermelding Doopboek Herv. gem. Oost-Vlieland, archiefnummer 28, Collectie doop-, trouw-, lidmaten- en begraafboeken - Tresoar, inventarisnummer 741, aktenummer 519 Gemeente: Vlieland Periode: 1635-1746
- ↑ From Free Space:OpDijck Genealogy
- ↑ Title The Op Dyck genealogy, containing the Opdyck--Opdycke--Updyke--Updike American descendents of the Wesel and Holland families Author Opdyke, Charles Wilson, b. 1838,Opdycke, Leonard Eckstein, 1858-1914 pages 149-153
- ↑ The earliest volume of Staten island records, 1678-1813. Historical Records Survey, Service Division, Work Projects Administration. New York, N. Y., 1942. [page 19 (Hathi Trust).
- ↑ Marriages from 1639 to 1801 in the Reformed Dutch Church, New Amsterdam, New York City]. Collections of the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, Vol. IX, 1940. Page 32 (Hathi Trust).
- ↑ Source: Alle Friezen Baptism 10 April 1644 Baptism Bronvermelding Doopboek Herv. gem. Oost-Vlieland, archiefnummer 28, Collectie doop-, trouw-, lidmaten- en begraafboeken - Tresoar, inventarisnummer 741, aktenummer 519 Gemeente: Vlieland Periode: 1635-1746
- ↑ Source: S-405613556 Repository: #R-948136629 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Repository: R-948136629 Name: Ancestry.com Address: http://www.Ancestry.com Page: Ancestry Family Tree
- ↑ Dead URL; is there another source for this content?
Acknowledgements
- Updike-131 was created by Robert Roehm through the import of Roehm Family Tree GEDCOM.ged on Feb 16, 2014.
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Added some info from the division and a record from a bit earlier (1662) perhaps we can find the actual sources that are mentioned in the book and add those to the profiles as well ?
Greets hope it helps and have a wonderful weekend !
Bea :)
Because for brother Johannes, based on the same source, the info from the book, it was decided he would receive or keep the Lourens patronymic, I figured instead of making perhaps unneeded LNAB merges, (fathers name is known and quite certain so in this case it's not inventing or assuming a father or fathers first name) we could just as well leave them like this ?
If you feel it's really needed we can change the patronymics of course, but Loras 'feels' rather wrong, for these people the name was important, it was what they tried very hard to keep in the family for all generations...and this you can see as well in what is said in the profile of Johannes, he himself, in spite of all the different versions of their patronymic that were written by the clerks, sticked to the patronymic name Lourens, I assume the info is reliable ?
It appears to me that the earliest reference to Otto with a last name is the marriage, when he was called Laurenszen.
But since the first name of the father is the most important thing and what a patronymic is about, I don't think that's a great choice for LNAB. It is pretty certain they were children of a man named Lourens or Louris, it is spelled with ou most of the occasions and one time Laurensz and there is a Louronson and Loras version.
Perhaps we should just leave the patronymics as they are now, what's the most important is the first name of father with, or in this case it might even be without an ending (Louris), Loras would not lead anyone to the deeper ancestors or sources for them other than the ones from after the emigration..see also what's mentioned in the Bio of Johannes who's name and patronymic are seen in several different spellings in various records, but he sticked to signing with the patronymic Lourens..so for them the first name of the father (which normally was the one from their deeper ancestors) was what was important. And I assume this also is why they all had the names corrected already to the patronymics they have now earlier ?
Added some info + sources to the PPP profile now
Greets,
Bea
Hi Rae,
It says he married in 1661 if that's correct, again no sources, one would assume a Birthdate of abt 1640 (=abt. 21 years of age at the marriage). We found a baptism for someone named Otto with parents that were named exactly the same, but it still might be a different Otto from different parents...
So we can keep the baptism record added, but for now the year of Birth with the marriage mentioned in 1661 perhaps could be abt 1640 ?
Greets and hope it helps, will try if I can find some sources..
Bea
ps: the marriage apparently was in 1667, so a birth year of 1646 might work as well and 1644 also and maybe even better, remembered reading some about it so looked it up again, men those days were able to marry without their parents consent a bit later, in the Dutch Republic those days, girls were able to marry without their parents consent from the age of 20 and men from the age of 25.
Hi,
These are the same and can be merged thanks !
Greets,
Bea :)
ps: duplicate has a possible source for Birth ..