Frederick (Alberti) Alberty Sr.
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Frederick Mayer (Alberti) Alberty Sr. (abt. 1741 - 1831)

Frederick Mayer Alberty Sr. formerly Alberti aka Alberti
Born about in Milano, Milano, Lombardy, Italymap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Husband of — married 29 Mar 1788 in Surry, North Carolina, USAmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 90 in Surry, North Carolina, United Statesmap
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Biography

DNA Confirmation

  • Paternal and Maternal relationships are both confident based on a triangulated group on GEDmatch who share a 8.2 cM segment on chromosome 1, consisting of Betty Adair and Gary Alberty, her 3rd cousin 1x removed, GEDmatch kit # QG4918883, and Charlie Rogers, her 4th cousin 1x removed, GEDmatch kit # A929259. (Gary and Charlie are 5th cousins.) Their most-recent common ancestors are Frederick Alberti and Elizabeth Raper, the 3x great grandparents of Betty Adair and 4x great grandparents of both Gary Alberty and Charlie Rogers.


Transcript of research posted by Ann Holladay on FamilySearch

Testimony about the Family of Frederick Albarty from the Revolutionary War Pension Application Files of Frederick Albarty and widow Elizabeth Alberty

by Ann Holladay

This documents describes information about the family of Frederick Albarty found in the Revolutionary War pension application files of Frederick and Elizabeth Albarty. The pension records contain testimony that Frederick Albarty had been married three times, once before the Revolution and twice since, as seen in the following transcription [original records available at the National Archives, Ancestry.com, Fold3.com, Heritagequestonline.com]:

"State of NC, this day came David Fremon Surry County, Before me and made oath in due form that Fredrick Alberta told him that he was married three times and twice since the revolution afore and that Elezabath cold [called?] the present wife is the third wife only soposed to be his wife. Sworn to and subscribed before me. Sept 26, 1846. David (x his mark) Fremon. Attest JL Fulk JP."

The following testimony by Matthew and Sarah Laffoon within the pension records states that Elizabeth [Raper] Alberty was Frederick Albarty's third wife, that Frederick had a son named Henery by his first wife, and that Frederick had a son named Moses by his second wife:

"We Matthew Laffoon & Sarah Laffoon his wife do cirtify that we have herd Frederic Alberty and Elizabeth Alberty said to be his third wife and said Matthew Laffoon says that he has seen one of said Alberty sons that he said of his first wife by the name of Henery, one other son of his second wife by the name of Moses & some other of his childring that I do not recollect there names: and said Mathew Laffoon: do also say that he has herd Elizabeth Alberty say that she was said Frederic Alberty third wife. Matthew Laffoon. Drury Hodges JP"

"Sarah Laffoon says that she herd Elizabeth Alberty say that she was the third wife of said Frederic Alberty… Sally Laffoon. Drury Hodges JP"

Some family trees online indicate that some researchers have interpreted "Henery" to be the surname of Frederick's first wife. It appears, though, that Matthew Laffoon is trying to identify the Alberty children in his testimony. It is also more likely that someone in 1846 would be more likely to recall the names of Alberty's children rather than the surnames of women he was married to more than 50 years previously.

The pension records also state that Frederick Albarty had three children by his first wife, three children by his second wife, and twelve children by his third wife, Elizabeth Raper. However, Elizabeth herself stated that she had ten children. Although the validity of these numbers could easily be questioned since the births had been so far in the past from the dates of testimony, the likelihood that Albarty had children with all three of his wives seems reasonable from the evidence in the pension records.

"State of NC, Surry County, Sept the 28th, 1846. This day came Joel Bray before me one of the acting Justices of the Piece for said cty and made oath in due form of law that he had herd Frederic Albarty say that he had had two wives before he had Elizabeth and they had three childring a piece and Elizabeth said to be his third wife and says she has had 12 childring. Joel Bray. Sworn and subscribed to before me Drury Hodges JP."

Frederick Albarty and Elizabeth Raper married in 1788. Only 10 of their children were named in the pension records, although an 11th name, Catharine Alberty, was crossed out, possibly indicating that a child who had died.

  • "North Carolina, County Marriages, 1762-1979 ," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XFSM-1JF : 10 February 2018), Fredrick Albarty and Elizabeth Raper, 29 Mar 1788; citing Surry, North Carolina, United States, p. , North Carolina State Archives Division of Archives and History; FHL microfilm 1,730,430.
  • "United States Census, 1790," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHK1-HKZ : accessed 17 March 2019), Frederick Alberty, Surry, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 510, NARA microfilm publication M637, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 7; FHL microfilm 568,147.
  • "United States Census, 1810," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH2V-7NN : accessed 17 March 2019), Frederick Alberty, Surry, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 636, NARA microfilm publication M252 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 43; FHL microfilm 337,916.
  • "United States Census, 1830," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHPV-D8X : 19 August 2017), Frederick Alberty, Surry, North Carolina, United States; citing 159, NARA microfilm publication M19, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 125; FHL microfilm 18,091.
  • North Carolina Census, 1790-1890[1]
  • U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)[2]
  • U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current[3]
  • U.S., Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files, 1800-1900 [4]

Sources

  1. North Carolina, U.S., Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1790-1890: Ancestry.com. North Carolina, U.S., Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1790-1890 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1999. Original data: Jackson, Ron V., Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp.. North Carolina Census, 1790-1890. Compiled and digitized by Mr. Jackson and AIS from microfilmed schedules of the U.S. Federal Decennial Census, territorial/state censuses, and/or census substitutes. Ancestry Record 3566 #17444758 State or colonial census:
    Name:Fredrick Alberty
    State:NC
    County:Wilkes County
    Township:Hardins District
    Year:1787
    Record Type:State or colonial census
    Page:002
    Database:NC Early Census Index
  2. U.S., Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project): The National Archives in Washington, DC; Washington, DC; Index, 1917-1950 Declarations of Intention, U.S. District Court, Southern Dist. of New York, M1675; Microfilm Serial: M1675; Microfilm Roll: 85 Ancestry Record 1629 #2934174 Naturalization:
    Name:Frederic Mayer Alberti
    Record Type:Naturalization
  3. U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current: Ancestry.com. U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012. Original data: Find a Grave. Find a Grave. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi. Ancestry Record 60525 #161460533 Death:
    Name:Frederick Alberti - Alberty
    Gender:Male
    Birth Date:1741
    Death Date:1831
    Death Place:Surry County, North Carolina, United States of America
    Cemetery:Alberty Cemetery
    Burial or Cremation Place:Surry County, North Carolina, United States of America
    Has Bio:Y
    Spouse:Elizabeth Alberty
    Children:John Alberty, Moses Alberty, Frances Treece
    URL: Find A Grave: Memorial #197603750 frederick-alberti_-_alberty
  4. U.S., Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files, 1800-1900: Ancestry.com. U.S., Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files, 1800-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. Original data: Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files (NARA microfilm publication M804, 2,670 rolls). Records of the Department of Veterans Affairs, Record Group 15. National Archives, Washington, D.C. Ancestry Record 1995 #764: Ancestry Sharing Link Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files, 1800-1900
    Name:Frederick Alberty
    Application State:North Carolina
    Applicant Designation:Widow's Pension Application File
    Second Applicant Name:Elizabeth Alberty
    Second Applicant Designation:Bounty-Land-Warrant Application File
    Archive Publication Number:M804
    Archive Roll Number:23
    Total Pages in Packet:1




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Alberty-22 and Albrecht-1401 appear to represent the same person because: The profile of Frederick Alberty born about 1741. His sons were referred to as German, and a DAR application for his son Samuel said he was born in Germany. (Albrecht is a common German name, so Alberty may be an Americanized version, but Alberty is the name found on all the records.)

According to the Family Search profile, Frederick had 3 wives - Elizabeth Krieger, unidentified, and Elizabeth Raper.

posted on Albrecht-1401 (merged) by JJ Stratton

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