Elizabeth Alsop was the daughter of John Alsop, Gent., of Alsop-le-Dale and Mickleover, Derbyshire, and Temperance Gilbert and sister of Timothy, George, Anthony, John, Jane (married Jackson), Mary and Clere.[1][2] She was born in England, probably in Derby, but the date and place of her birth is unknown and is estimated.[3]
The date of her immigration to America is unknown, but on 5 February 1642/3, she joined the Milford Church (as Elizabeth Alsop).[1] In addition, the will of her brother, John Allsopp of Bonsall, Derby, dated 16 January 1643, proved 10 February 1646, names the following people: his mother, Temperance Hopkins; his eldest brother Anthony; sister Jane Jackson, wife of Roger; grandmother Mrs. Jane Allsopp; aunt Dorothy Hopkinson; his wife Mary Allsopp; and "my two brothers and sister now living in New England" [probably Timothy, George and Elizabeth].[4]
Elizabeth married twice. About 1643, in Milford, Connecticut, she married first Richard Baldwin, son of Sylvester Baldwin[1] and his wife Sarah Bryan.[5][6]
Barnabus Baldwin,[1] born in 1665, "after his father's death"; married three times[5] (Barnabus died in 1741)[7]
Richard Baldwin died 23 July 1665.[1] His estate was presented at Hartford, Connecticut, on 23 September 1665. Richard and Elizabeth's eldest son [Sylvanus] received a double portion and their youngest child [Barnabas], who was born after Richard's death, was not mentioned.[6]
In November 1670, also in Milford, she married second Lieutenant William Fowler.[1]
Elizabeth died perhaps in May 1683.[5][9] She is buried in the old part of Milford Cemetery (no grave marker remains), Milford, New Haven County, Connecticut.[7] Her husband, William, died about the same time. He left a will dated 3 October 1682, proved June 1683, in which he names ten of his children by his first marriage.[10]
Research Notes
CONFLATION WARNING
There is another Elizabeth Alsop (abt.1614-1669), who married Rosseter and was possibly a sister of another Timothy and Josias. See will of the "other" Timothy, who married Martha and had daughters, Betty and Prudence (Elizabeth's brother Timothy married Elizabeth and had two sons who died without issue).[11]
Clue for Immigration
A 1635 immigration could possibly be found here (not available online): KING, CAROL TYLER. Our Second Boat Ship List. In Second Boat (Downeast Ancestry, Machias, ME), vol. 16:4 (Fall 1996), pp. 14-20.
Sister of Joseph?
Anderson notes that she may be the sister of Joseph Alsop, but that more research is needed.[12] Charles C. Baldwin indicates the same.[13]
Unsourced Children
The following children were listed in the profile without a source, and they are not shown by the sources cited. They were detached as children on 27 Nov 2020.
The line of her mother, Temperance Gilbert, goes back to King Edward I (Longshanks), King of England, Henry Plantagenet (King Henry III of England), Matilada Baldwin who married King William I (William the Conqueror) and their son, King Henry I of England (according to The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants...).[7]
She is a descendant of several Magna Carta Surety Barons, including the Bigods,[1] through her mother's ancestor Sir Richard FitzAlan. (See the Magna Carta Project section, below.)
Sources
↑ 1.001.011.021.031.041.051.061.071.081.091.101.111.121.131.141.15 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Volume I, pages 8-9 ALSOP 16.iii.
↑ "Pedigree of the Family of Alsopp, of Alsopp-in-the-Dale" in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register. (Boston, MA: NEHGS, Oct 1892). Online at AmericanAncestors.org, vol. 46, page 367.
↑ Find a Grave, database and images (accessed 27 November 2020), memorial page for Elizabeth Alsop Fowler (1625–Jul 1688), Find A Grave: Memorial #28226249, citing Milford Cemetery, Milford, New Haven County, Connecticut, USA; Maintained by V. Nareen Lake (contributor 46613568). NOTE: memorial shows birth in 1625, but no source. This WikiTree profile shows birth in 1622, Alsop-En-Le-Dale, Derbyshire, England, but no source. Rationale for 1622 birth (given by Anne B. in a comment): "The first husband's birth was 1622. Fowler's, I suspect is an estimate. Dtr Mary bpt 1643 and Eliza was bpt 1644. So I'd say the 1622 date is probably a better estimate."
↑ "Genealogical Gleanings in England" in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register. (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1890). Online at AmericanAncestors.org, vol. 44, pages 91-92.
↑ 6.06.1 Samuel Orcutt. The History of the Old Town of Derby, Connecticut, 1642-1880. (Springfield MA: Springfield Printing Co., 1880, Reprint: Bowie, Maryland, Heritage Books, Inc., 1998). Online at HathiTrust, p. 693: Baldwin.
↑ James Savage. A Genealogical Dictionary of The First Settlers of New England, Before 1692. Vol. 3. Online at USGenNet.org Riggs.
↑ FindAGrave (citation above) says she died July 1688 but does not give a source.
↑ Daniel Fowler. A Genealogy Memoir of the Descendants of Capt. William Fowler, of New Haven, Connecticut. (Milwaukee, WI: Starr & Son, 1870). Online at Archive.org, Pages 13-14.
↑ "Genealogical Gleanings in England" in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. (Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1891). Online at AmericanAncestors.org, vol. 45, page 297.
↑ Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn. The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume 1, A-B. (Boston: NEHGS, 1999). Online at AmericanAncestors.org, page 51.
↑ Charles C. Baldwin. "Alsop and Harlakenden" in the New England Historical and Genealogical Register. (Boston, MA: NEHGS, Oct 1892). Online at AmericanAncestors.org, vol. 46, pages 368-369.
Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011. See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry.
Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2013. See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.Vol. I, p. 118.
See also:
"Derby, Connecticut Town Records, 1655-1710" (New Haven, CT, The Tuttle, Morehouse and Taylor Company, 1901.), p. 4. . "...Isaac Nichols of Stratford guniar have Sold.. unto Ebenezer Johnson of Pagasett, ... which was formerly Given to me by my honared mother in Law ElizaBeth Fowler .. hogges Meadow.." Online at Internet Archive.
Abbott, Susan Woodruff. Families of Early Milford, Connecticut. (Genealogical Publishing Co., 1979). Online at Google Books, p. 51: Richard Baldwin.
Lewis, Marlyn. Elizabeth Alsop in "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors and Cousins" (website, compiled by Mr. Marlyn Lewis, Portland, OR; accessed 17 January 2019). See also Temperance Gilbert
Torrey, Clarence A. New England Marriages Prior to 1700. (Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004). Online at Ancestry.com, page 36: Baldwin, m. aft. 5 Feb 1643?, and page 280: Fowler, m. 1 Nov 1670.
Ancestry.com. "Connecticut, U.S., Town Birth Records, pre-1870" (Barbour Collection) [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Online at Ancestry.com: marriage to Baldwin.
PROBABLY NOT THIS ELIZABETH: The Charles R. Hale Collection. Hale Collection of Connecticut Cemetery Inscriptions. (Hartford, CT: Connecticut State Library). Ancestry Record 2900 #264569. Online at Ancestry.com. Connecticut Newspaper Notices published July 1856:Mrs Elizabeth Fowler, Age: 65, Death Date: 28 Jul [no year], Death Place: Milford, Connecticut, USA.
Acknowledgements
Magna Carta Project
This profile was re-reviewed and approved 27 Nov 2020 by Thiessen-117.
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I have completed the merge. I see, Stacy, you have also proposed a merge of Jeremiah Zachariah Baldwin-18404 into Elizabeth's son Zachariah Baldwin-1624.
I'm working my way up from descendants of Nathan and Temperance (Baldwin) Burwell and I was looking ahead here on a break.
Please delete the "(Temperance died 1674)", referencing Find-a-Grave, on the children's listing above; she had several children after that date and was surely living in Jan 1686/7, when we see:
Milford, New Haven, Connecticut, Land Records, 03:016. 11 Jan 1686/7 Elizabeth Fowler of Milford to "son in lawe Nathan Burwell & my Daughter Temperance his wife", half an acre of land in the "new lott" in Milford; given as part of her (Temperance) portion...
FindMyPast parish registers for Ashbourne, Derbyshire, England doesn't have any records for an Elizabeth Alsop. I only find 2 Elizabeth Alsops in the entirety of England born in the early 1600s to a John Alsop, and neither have the right name for the mother. I doubt there exists any record of her birth/baptism.
I believe the FAG citation comes from this collection (https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/2900/) in which there is an entry for an Elizabeth Fowler claiming she died July 28 age 65 - it does not give a year, but the issue is from 1856. I'm not familiar enough with this collection to say anything about its accuracy or what it even means.
Though looking at the entry immediately below Elizabeth Fowler would indicate that this David Nettleton of Killingworth died July 11 1856 (http://dunhamwilcox.net/ct/killing_deaths_1847-1856.htm), which would indicate this is indeed about the year 1856.
Why is FAG being used as the source for the arrival date? There's an immigration list on Ancestry that says 1635 - https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pili354&indiv=try&h=4459408 - however I can't even find an indication of the existence of this list. Either way, FAG is not a valid source for the date of immigration.
FAG is a poor excuse to change a birth date. The first husbands birth was 1622. Fowler's, I suspect is an estimate. Dtr Mary bpt 1643 and Eliza was bpt 1644. So I'd say the 1622 date is probably a better estimate. Mark the DB error as false, hide forever reason estimated dates.
source for change of birth year from 1625 to "certain 1622"? Her bio says that her first husband was born in 1622, her second in 1625. The only mention of a birth year for her is 1625.
Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry (Vol I, p 9 ALSOP) does not mention a birth year for her.
Gilbertt-2 and Alsop-24 appear to represent the same person because: Gilbertt-2 was all wrong and I began to try to fix it, and then I realized the correct person already existed, as Alsop-24.
edited by Michael Cayley
Thank you.
Please delete the "(Temperance died 1674)", referencing Find-a-Grave, on the children's listing above; she had several children after that date and was surely living in Jan 1686/7, when we see:
Milford, New Haven, Connecticut, Land Records, 03:016. 11 Jan 1686/7 Elizabeth Fowler of Milford to "son in lawe Nathan Burwell & my Daughter Temperance his wife", half an acre of land in the "new lott" in Milford; given as part of her (Temperance) portion...
edited by Michael Cayley
Though looking at the entry immediately below Elizabeth Fowler would indicate that this David Nettleton of Killingworth died July 11 1856 (http://dunhamwilcox.net/ct/killing_deaths_1847-1856.htm), which would indicate this is indeed about the year 1856.
edited by E. Logan
If no source for either date, I would be inclined to change the date back to "about 1625", to match her 2nd husband's birth year.
Any objection?
Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry (Vol I, p 9 ALSOP) does not mention a birth year for her.
Hi! Please replace the coding for the Gateway template with the actual project box (see this page).
Thanks!