Guillaume
(Guillaume V)
"Comte d'Angoulême"
d'Angoulême
formerly Angoulême
Born in Angoulême, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France
Ancestors 
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of
Emma (Limoges) de Angoulême
— married
1137 [location unknown]
Husband of
Marguerite (Turenne) Angoulême
— married
1150 [location unknown]
Descendants 
Father of
Isabelle Angoulême, Almodis (Angoulême) d'Angoulême, Aymer (Angoulême) de Angoulême, Guillaume (Taillefer) de Angoulême and Helie (Taillefer) Angoulême
Died
at about age 64
in Messina, Sicilia, Italy
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Biography
Guillaume, also known as William Taillefer IV, was the eldest son of Vulgrin d'Angoulême. [1]
He succeeded his father as Comte d'Angoulême in 1140. [2]
In 1146, he exempted Notre-Dame de Dalon from taxes on its lands by charter. [3]
He died 7 AUG 1179 at Messina, Sicily while en route to Jerusalem. [4]
Children
Comte Guillaume VI & his second wife MARGUERITE de Turenne had six children: [5]
- VULGRIN d’Angoulême (-1181 before 29 Jun).
- GUILLAUME d’Angoulême (-[1186]).
- AYMAR d’Angoulême ([1160]-Limoges 16 Jun 1202).
- GRISET (-[1179/92]).
- FOULQUES (-[1171/80]).
- ALMODIS ([1151/60]-).
Sources
- ↑ Wikipedia:William_VI,_Count_of_Angoulême.
- ↑ Cawley, Charles. Medieval Lands: A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families. Hosted online by the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG), accessed 2022, Comtes d'Angouleme.
- ↑ Dalon Notre-Dame 739, p. 180.
- ↑ Pattou, Etienne. "Comtes d'Angoulême," p. 5.
- ↑ Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 128.
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Categories: Medieval Project, France, needs biography
I'm not necessarily suggesting a mass LNAB change, but in this situation where there is a merge proposed, I think the merge should go into Angoulême-44 rather than into Taillefer-19. That would entail removing the PPP momentarily.
Emma, Limoges-7, shows some of the children to be hers both in her biography and attached as children, when they are also claimed by Marguerite, Turenne-1, in the biography, but not linked to her. I suspect the birth dates for both women to be incorrect, as the earliest dates for the birth of any of the children is given as "after 1151" which would make the mother over 40 years old, since estimated dates are 1115 and 1117.
Neither of them is attached to Vulgram III (or Wolgram III). Wikipedia says he is a son of Guillaume IV, and successor to "the title of Count of Angoulême and its territories from his father, William VI of Angoulême, in 1179." He only ruled for two years and was succeeded by his brother Guillaume (William).
The biographies for both Guillaume and Marguerite show the first heir to the title of Count, Vulgram, to be their son. However neither profile assigns Vulgram to them. It is reasonable to assume Vulgram to be the oldest child, named for Guillaume's father. It is also reasonable to assume, that provided his first wife did have children, the oldest child would belong to her. She (Limoges-7) does have the next two heirs to the title attached to her as her sons, and they are so described in her biography. However, the biography section for both Guillaume and Marguerite claim Guilliame VII and Aymer for their sons, in spite of them being joined to Emma and described as her children in her biography. The estimated ages of the children would indicate either that they are off by more than 10 years, as Emma died in 1162, or Marguerite was actually the first wife. However, Marguerite did not die until 1201.
I am interested in clearing this up, as I apparently descend from Aymer, and want to have his mother's true name as near as possible.
edited by Margaret (Kepner) Kerns
Emma appears to have died by 1150/1, the approximate date of Guillaume Taillefer's second marriage, to Marguerite. I have amended the death date on her profile, which needs a lot of work when someone has time. Children appear to have been wrongly attached to Emma: Medieval Lands gives Marguerite as mother of Guillaume and Aymer, and I am not sure of the source for daughter Hélie. I am afraid I would not want to attempt to sort out children without doing more research because of the risk of replacing one muddle with another, and I do not have time myself for this at the moment. All the profiles I have looked at for this family nexus need substantial attention.
edited by Michael Cayley
As I said, it is important to try to avoid replacing one muddle with another.
edited by Michael Cayley