Marie-Élisabeth (Angoulême) d'Angoulême

Marie-Élisabeth (Angoulême) d'Angoulême (1572 - 1578)

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Marie-Élisabeth d'Angoulême formerly Angoulême aka Valois
Born in Palais du Louvre, Paris, Francemap
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Died in Hôtel d’Anjou, Paris, Francemap
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Profile last modified 16 Jan 2017 | Created 10 Oct 2016
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Angoulême ou Valois - undecided.


  • "Cour de France: 'Vie et mort de Marie-Elisabeth de France (1572-1578), fille de Charles IX et Elisabeth', par Jacqueline Vons et Pauline Saint-Martin." [1]
  • (Wikipedia)

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On 16 Jan 2017 at 12:52 GMT Isabelle (Rassinot) Martin wrote:

Hi all, I believe her LNAB should be Valois (she was a Valois) with de Valois-Angoulême in Other Last Names. Her Current Last Name would be de France - that is how she is known: Marie-Élisabeth de France. Thanks. -- Isabelle

On 11 Oct 2016 at 04:56 GMT John Atkinson wrote:

Thanks Sunny for the link to that article, I hadn't come across that website before and it looks very good, though like you my French translation is very rough. I think we need to be a bit pragmatic with what names we apply to profiles from this period and earlier. Although Wikitree policy is to use the names they would have used, often it is never very clear what name would have been used.

On 10 Oct 2016 at 22:47 GMT Sunny (Trimbee) Clark wrote:

Hi John, it was French source and I wasn't quite done trying to badly translate when my internet failed, so it didn't appear, as happens here frequently. The whole branch is listed that way in many records across the pond, so I just wasn't 100% convinced that we have it right with Valois, and this unfortunate lass seemed a good place to start working it out. I'm far from done investigating... Love your input... "Vie et mort de Marie-Elisabeth de France (1572-1578), fille de Charles IX et Elisabeth")

On 10 Oct 2016 at 09:16 GMT John Atkinson wrote:

Sunny, I don't understand why you decided to use the name Angoulême for her name? The Wikipedia article you have used as a source, calls her Marie Élisabeth de France, and the dynasty she belonged (which is usually used as the LNAB) was Valois, although it was a junior branch of that dynasty, Valois is still the better choice.

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