Elizabeth (Argall) Filmer (abt. 1570 - 1638)

Born about 1570 in East Sutton, Kent, England

Ancestors

Wife of Edward Filmer Sr. — married 1585 in Lenham, Kent, England

Descendants

Died 9 Aug 1638 at about age 68 in East Sutton, Kent, England

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Biography

Elizabeth Argall was born about 1570, probably in East Sutton, Kent, England.^[1]

Her father, Richard Argall, Esq.,^[2] of East Sutton, Kent, England, was the son of Thomas Argall, Esq., of London and Margaret, daughter of John Tallakarne.^[3]

Elizabeth's mother was Richard Argall's's second wife, Mary Scott, daughter of Reginald Scott, Knt., of Scott's Hall, Kent, and Mary Tuke.^[3]

Elizabeth married Edward Filmer, Knt., of East Sutton, Kent, son of Robert Filmer, Esq., and his wife, Francis, daughter of Robert Chester, Knt., of Royston, Hertfordshire. Sir Edward Filmer died on 2 November 1629.^[3]

Edward and Elizabeth (Argall) Filmer are buried together in a marble tomb at the Church of St. Peter and St. Paul, East Sutton, Maidstone Borough, Kent, England. The tomb includes brass etchings of the Filmer family that depicts all 18 of their children.^[2]

Children

Edward and Elizabeth had 9 sons and 9 daughters:^[4]

Sons

1. Robert Filmer, Knt.,^[4] married Anne^[5]
2. Edward Filmer^[4][5]
3. John Filmer^[4][5]
4. Thomas Filmer^[4]
5. Reginald (or Reynald) Filmer,^[4] married Jane^[5]
6. Thomas Filmer (again)^[4]
7. Richard Filmer^[4]
8. Henry Filmer,^[5] Gent., married Elizabeth ________^[4]
9. Augustine Filmer^[4]

Daughters

1. Mary Filmer, married John Knatchbull^[4]
2. Margaret Filmer^[4]
3. Elizabeth Filmer, married William Faulkner^[4] (Faulconer)^[5][6]
4. Judith Filmer^[4]
5. Katherine Filmer, married Robert Barham^[4][5]
6. Anne Filmer^[4]
7. Jane Filmer^[4]
8. Susanna Filmer^[4]
9. Sarah Filmer,^[5] married John Richard, Knt.^[4]

Death

Elizabeth (Argall) Filmer died on 8 August 1638^[2] and left a will dated 23 March 1635, which was proved on 16 August 1638.^[3]

Will

See below for an abstract.

WILL OF DAME ELIZABETH FILMER, LATE WIFE OF SIR EDWARD FILMER, KNIGHT. WILL DATED 23 MARCH 1635/ CODICIL 2 AUGUST 1638; PROVED 16 AUGUST 1638. ^[7]

Body to Church of East Sutton beside the body of late husband. To the poor of East Sutton, L 5. DAME ANNE FILMER, wife of my son SIR ROBERT FILMER, my jewel with diamonds and pearls. To ELIZABETH FILMER, their daughter and SARAH FILMER, my daughter, my four ropes of pearls containing 600 in number equally between them. EDWARD FILMER, eldest son of my son, Sir ROBERT, a Portuguse piece of gold and a piece of gold of King HENRY VII coinage, both of which were his Great Grandfather's. To the two youngest sons of my son Sir ROBERT, viz; ROBERT and SAMUEL, 40 shillings apiece. To ANNE, the youngestdaughter of Sir ROBERT, 40 shillings.

To my daughter, KATHERINE BARHAM, L 10. To her eldest daughter ELIZABETH BARHAM, L 300 when 21, or married. If she died before then said L 300 to ELIZABETH and ANNE FILMER, daughters of my son, REGINALD FILMER. SUSAN and ANNE BARHAM, two daughters of my said daughter, KATHERINE, 40 shillings apiece.

DAUGHTER, ELIZABETH FAULCONER, L 10. DAUGHTER, SARAH FILMER, L 10. Son-in-law, ROBERT BARHAM, my biggest ring. To his son, THOMAS, L 10 at 24 and to each of his other sons, EDWARD, ROBERT, CHARLES, RICHARD, & JOHN, 40 shillings. To his daughters, 40 shillings each. Daughter-in-law, JANE, wife of my son, Reginold, L 10. To her daughters, ELIZABETH and ANN FILMER, 40 shillings each. SON, SIR ROBERT FILMER, my silver warming pans. My son, JOHN, L 10. Son, HENRY, L 10. Son, REGINOLD, my lease of three tenements in Knightrider Street, London. Son-in-law, WILLIAM FAULCONER, Draper, 40 shillings. My brother, JOHN ARGALL, ESQ. a gold ring. My sister, DAME JANE FLETWOOD, a piece of Queen ELIZABETHS coyne. Sister, DAME SARAH JENKINSON, a like piece of gold of Queen ELIZABETHS coyne. ELIZABETH PEERSON, widow, 40 shillings. Each of my manservants, 10 shillings. ELIZABETH FRYDE, my apprentice, 40 shillings. Residue to my son, EDWARD FILMER, sole EXECUTOR.

Published August 2, 1638 - Wa. RETROVICK< Scrivener.

DAME ELIZABETH FILMER willeth that her three houses in Knighrider Street (now that her son, REGINOLD FILMER is deceased) shall be disposed of as follows: L 30 of the first years rent to JANE, late wife of said REGINOLD and after the decease of testrix to the use of her executor, he paying to ELIZABETH FAULCONER daughter of DAME ELIZABETH FILMER and wife of WILLIAM FAULCONER, L 10. Whereas DAME ELIZABETH FILMER had bequethed to ELIZABETH, daughter of ROBERT BARHAM, Gentleman, a competent porcion, her will is that L 50 of the said legacy in case said ELIZABETH depart this life before attaining 18 years shall be divided equally between the two daughters of said REGINOLD and lastly, DAME ELIZABETH FILMER willeth to SUSAN BARHAM L 50 a peece(sic) memorandum the legacy L 50 to SUSAN and ANNE BARHAM were enterliyned before the signing hereof. ^[7]

Abstract from above transcription:

Will of Elizabeth Filmer dated 23 March 1635/codicil 2 August 1638; proved 16 August 1638^[7]

• Son Robert Filmer, his wife Dame Anne Filmer
  • Elizabeth Filmer, their daughter
  • Edward Filmer, eldest son of Robert
  • Robert and Samuel, two youngest sons of Robert
  • Anne, youngest daughter of Robert
• Daughter Sarah Filmer
• Daughter Katherine Barham, wife of Robert Barham
  • Elizabeth Barham, Katherine's eldest daughter [not yet 18 at time of codicil]
  • Susan and Anne Barham, daughters of Katherine
  • Thomas Barham (at 24)
  • Edward, Robert, Charles, Richard, and John Barham
• Reginald/Reginold Filmer, his wife Jane [Reignold dec'd at time of codicil]
  • Elizabeth and Anne Filmer, daughters of Reginald
• Daughter Elizabeth Faulconer, wife of William Faulconer, draper
• Son John
• Son Henry
• Brother John Argall, Esq.
• Sister Dame Jane Fletwood [sic]
• Sister Dame Sarah Jenkinson
• Elizabeth Peerson, widow [relationship not noted]
• Elizabeth Fryde, "my apprentice"
• Son Edward Filmer, sole EXECUTOR.

Abstract of Edward's will, "20 October, Vth Charles I (1605); Proved, 5 December 1629"^[8]

• Daughter Elizabeth, wife of William Faulkner, citizen and draper of London
• Sons Edward, John, and Henry Filmer
• Son Reynald (Reginald)
• Daughter Mary Knatchbull
  • Edward Knatchbull, my Godson
  • Mary Knatchbull
  • John Knatchbull
• Daughter Catherine Barham
  • Edward Barham, my godson
  • Elizabeth Barham, my wife's God-daughter
  • "other grandchildren": Robert, Thomas, Charles, and Richard Barham
• Son Sir Robert Filmer and his wife Dame Ann
• Daughter Sara
• Brother Henry
• Brother Anthony's daughter Dorothy
• Wife Dame Elizabeth
• Brother Robert Filmer, Esq.

Tombstone Memorial Inscription

Under this rest, in the certain hope of the Resurrection, the bodies of Sir EDWARD FILMER, Knight, and Dame ELIZABETH his wife, the daughter of Richard Argall, Esq. They lived together fortie four years, and had issue eighteen children, viz.: nine sonnes and nine daughters, Robert, Edward, John, Thomas, Reginald, Thomas, Richard, Henry, Augustin, and Mary, Margaret, Elizabeth, Judith, Katherine, Anne, Jane, Susannah, Sarah. He departed this life ye 2nd November, Ao. Di. 1629; she ye 9th August, Ao. Di. 1638 ^{[9] [2]}

Research Notes

Estimated dates

• Birth: about 1570 (based on ? - the unsourced statement that she was 15 when she married?). FindAGrave has 1575 but does not give a source for it, nor for saying that she was 62-63 when she died.^[10]
• Marriage: 1585 is based on their monument brass, which says they lived together 44 years (Edward died in 1629).

Perhaps the brass was being literal. If she were married young, it was not uncommon for a young English wife to live with her husband but not consummate the marriage until she was older. The biography of their son, Robert, in the Oxford Dictionary for National Biography says he was "...born in East Sutton, Kent, almost certainly in 1588, the eldest of the eighteen children of Sir Edward Filmer (1566–1629), a country gentleman, and his wife, Elizabeth (c.1570–1638), daughter of Richard Argall (or Argol)..."^[11]

Noble Lineage

The Argall family's noble lineage can be traced back through Elizabeth's mother, Mary (Scott) Argall, to her 4th great grandmother, Eleanor (Camoys) Lewknor, who is a descendant of the Holy Roman Emperor (800 CE) Charlemagne.^[12]

Elizabeth is a descendant of "Alice of Normandy (sister to King William the Conqueror)" through her mother's Lewknor ancestors;^[13] Alice is a descendant of Charlemagne.^[14][15][16]

The Richardson-documented trail to Alice of Normandy goes through Magna Carta Surety Baron William de Huntingfield (see details below).

Sources

1. ↑ Birth c. 1570 is estimated (see Research Notes, above). The datafield had said that she was born at "Scot's Hall, Smeeth (near Ashford), Kent, England", but was not supported in the text. Scot's Hall is her mother's family's home. In the absence of sources, however, it was changed to East Sutton, Kent (her father Richard Argall was "of East Sutton, Kent" and the family is known to have lived there).
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3} "Monumental Brasses from the 13th to the 16th century" by John Green Waller & Lionel A.B. Waller, 1864. Reprinted 1975 by Cambridge University.
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3} Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), volume II, pages 165-166 FILMER.
4. ↑ ^{4.00 4.01 4.02 4.03 4.04 4.05 4.06 4.07 4.08 4.09 4.10 4.11 4.12 4.13 4.14 4.15 4.16 4.17 4.18} Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, II:166 FILMER 16.
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 5.5 5.6 5.7} Named in the will of either Sir Edward Filmer or his wife Dame Elizabeth, or both (see abstracts in this profile).
6. ↑ Apparently, Elizabeth (Filmer) Faulkner's niece Elizabeth, Reginold's daughter, also married a Faulkner (see the note on Reginold's profile, accessed 19 November 2019).
7. ↑ ^{7.0 7.1 7.2} Virginia Gleanings in England: Abstracts of 17th and 18th-century English Wills and Administrations Relating to Virginia and Virginians : a Consolidation of Articles from The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography, pgs 346-347, Lothrop Withington Genealogical Publishing Com, 1980
8. ↑ From the transcription of Edward's will posted on his profile (accessed 18 November 2019).
9. ↑ recorded by the Vicar of Dettling, the Rev. Cave-Brown in 1898 (East Sutton Churchyard p. 46)
10. ↑ Find A Grave: Memorial #59757079 for Elizabeth Argall (accessed 17 November 2019). Birth/age at death are not sourced.
11. ↑ Glenn Burgess, "Filmer, Sir Robert (1588?–1653)", Oxford Dictionary for National Biography (Extract accessed 18 November 2019).
12. ↑ Langston & Buck, "Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants" 1986, vol. II, chapter XXXIX, pp. 175 - 177
13. ↑ Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume II, pages 583-584 FILMER. See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.
14. ↑ Richardson, Royal Ancestry, V:483-493 APPENDIX Line A, V:488 Line A 11.i. (Alice of Normandy).
15. ↑ See WikiTree's Category page "Category:Charlemagne to William the Conqueror Descent" for the profiles on the Line A trail.
16. ↑ Alice is said to be either the full sister or the half sister of William, but both are said to be children of Robert, who is shown by Richardson in Line A as a descendant of Charlemagne. That trail currently is marked "Uncertain" in WikiTree (see this G2G question and also this answer in an earlier G2G discussion.

See also:

• Richardson, Douglas. Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 3 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City: the author, 2011 (volume II, page 48 FILMER 20). See also WikiTree's source page for Plantagenet Ancestry.
• Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Volume 2, Marcellus Donald Alexander von Redlich, Order of the Crown of Charlemagne in the United States of America, 1974
• Elizabeth Argall from Order of the crown of Charlemagne, Compiler: Tracy Ashley Crocker, Lineages Submitted by Members of OCC who are proud descendants of Charlemagne. Data Entry: Tracy Ashley Crocker and Richard Dennis Souther using: Douglas Richardson, compiler, "Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families," p. 311. (Baltimore, MD: GPC, 2004). Note: The list posted online by this organization (accessed 17 November 2019) does not include Elizabeth, just her brother and son - "Argall, Sir Samuel, deputy Governor of VA" and "Filmer, Henry, of James City & Warwick Cos., VA" (respectively). Also, I was unable to confirm that Richardson documented such a lineage (he does not in Royal Ancestry, II:585 FILMER or Magna Carta Ancestry, II:165 FILMER).
• "Janet's Genealogy" for Thomas Faulkner on freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com
• Pedigrees with Index of London Citizens, abt. 1600-1800 (filmed 1954), Boyd, Percival, compiler, (Microfilm copy of manuscripts at Somerset House, London. Salt Lake City, Utah: Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1954), FHL microfilms 94,515-94,593., vol. 92 no. 9405 & 9406, FHL microfilm 94549.

Acknowledgements

Magna Carta Project

This profile was approved for the Magna Carta Project 20 November 2019 by Noland-165.

Elizabeth (Argall) Filmer is in a Richardson-documented trail from Gateway Ancestor Charles Barham to Magna Carta Surety Baron William de Huntingfield (vol. II, pages 165-166 FILMER). This trail was developed in 2018 by the Magna Carta Project and badged in November 2020. The trail can be viewed in the Magna Carta Trails on the Gateway's profile.

Elizabeth (Argall) Filmer is the mother of Gateway Ancestor Henry Filmer, who is documented in Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry as being a descendant of Magna Carta Surety Baron William de Huntingfield (volume II, pages 165-166 FILMER). Part of the trail (from Henry Filmer to Roger Lewknor) was developed by EuGene Smith and was badged 26 December 2019. This trail connects to an existing trail to William de Huntingfield that was badged in 2015. The Filmer trail can be seen HERE.

See Base Camp for information about Magna Carta trails. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as "badged trail". ~ Noland-165 16:09, 26 December 2019 (UTC).