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Pierre Arseneau (1792)

Pierre Arseneau
Born in Nepisiguit, Bathurst City, Gloucester, New Brunswick, Canadamap
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Biography

http://genealogie-acadienne.net/?action=indiDetails&I=19634

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Research Notes

Although Savard[1] indicates that son Césaire did not appear on the 1861 Census, this is incorrect. He was in fact sharing a house with his parents, along with his wife and four of their children.[2]

Found the following which seems to match, but born at an earlier date:

"Pierre ARSENAULT (Simon Arsenault & Marie-Gertrude Melanson) n 26-6-1792 Nipisiguit (Bathurst, NB) b 28-10-1792 (Rg Ristigouche); de Nipisiguit en 1814; cultivateur 1826; élu marguiler à la place d’Antoine Hachée 25-12-1825; 69 ans au rec. 1861, à Beresford (div. 1), cultivateur; 76 ans au rec. 1871, à Beresford (div. 2), cultivateur.

❤ 3-11-1814 Ste-Famille de Bathurst, cté Gloucester NB (disp. 3c)

Rose HACHÉ (Michel Haché & Marie Godin) n 25-5-1794 Nipisiguit, NB; 67 ans en 1861; 75 ans en 1871 [Rg, Rp, D2, R94].

  1. Pierre n vers 1816 m 1836 Hélène Boudrot
  2. Joseph m 1840 Séraphine Haché
  3. Urbain dit William n 1-10-1819 Bathurst m 1844 Marguerite Haché
  4. Fabien m 1843 Marie Haché rem 1852 Marie Boudreau
  5. Isaie n vers 1825 m 1850 Marie Lejeune
  6. Pascal n 1833 m 1860 Mary Doucet rem 1892 Marie-Patricia Cormier
  7. Simon n 10-9-1826 b 16-10-1826 Petit-Rocher (peut-être Simon m 1848 Monique Doucet ou Simon m 1853 Tharsile N...); p. Lazare Melanson, m. Charlotte Haché, par LeDuc ptre miss.
  8. Ambroise n et b 6-10-1828 Petit-Rocher m 1851 Rose Godin; p. Sylvain Doucet, m. Adée Hachée, par Fortier
  9. Pierre n vers 1836 NB s 29-3-1862 Petit-Rocher (26 ans); 25 ans en 1861
  10. Césare dit Jérôme n et b 14-5-1836 Petit-Rocher m 1856 Mary Haché rem 1871 Marie-Louise Roy; absent du rec. 1861; p. Frs Boudrot, m. Céleste Melanson"[3]

Pierre Arsenault was born on June 25, 1792, in Nipisiguit, Northumberland County, to Simon Arseneau and Marie Gertrude Melanson. He was baptized in Ristigouche on October 28, 1792. [1]

On November 3, 1814, Pierre married Rose Haché, daughter of Michel Haché and Marie Godin. Simon Arsenault and Michel Haché were the witnesses.[1][4] Rose was born on May 25, 1794, and baptized at Ste-Famille de Bathurst church in Nipisiguit. [1]

Their children were:

  • Joseph married Séraphine Haché in 1840.[1]
  • Urbain dit William was born on October 1, 1819 in Bathurst. In 1844, he married Marguerite Haché.[1]
  • Fabien married twice: (1) on May 15, 1843, he married Marie Haché, daughter of Charles Haché and Marie Goulet, in Nipisiguit. [5] (2) In 1852, Fabien married Marie Boudreau.[1]
  • Isaie was born around 1825. In 1850, he married Marie Lejeune.[1]
  • Pascal was born in 1833. He married twice: (1) in 1860 he married Mary Doucet; (2) in 1892, he married Marie-Patricia Cormier (Possibly Arseneau-176)[1]
  • Simon was born on September 10, 1826, and baptized on October 16, 1826, in Petit-Rocher. His godparents were Lazare Melanson and Charlotte Haché, and the ceremony was officiated by Father LeDuc, prêtre missionaire. (Simon is perhaps the Simon who married 1848 Monique Doucet in 1848, or the Simon who married N... in 1853)[1]
  • Ambroise was born and baptized on September 6,1828, in Petit-Rocher; his godparents were Sylvain Doucet and Adée Hachée. He married Rose Godin in 1851.[1]
  • Pierre was born around 1836 in New Brunswick. He was buried in Petit Rocher on March 29, 1862, at 26 years of age.(Possibly Arseneau-48)[1]
  • Césare dit Jérôme was born and baptized on May 14, 1836, in Petit Rocher. He married twice: (1) Mary Haché in 1856 and (2) Marie-Louise Roy in 1871. [1]

In 1825, Pierre was elected "marguillier" (the closest translation I can find is church warden), replacing Antoine Hachée. His role may have seen him responsible for the assets of the church in Beresford, the register of the poor receiving support from the Church, etc. This would have been a voluntary, unpaid role. He earned his living as a farmer.

In his older years, Pierre and Rose still headed a household that now consisted of his youngest son Cesar's family, including his wife Mary Sr., granddaughters Mary Jr., and Lucey, and grandsons Alexander and Joseph. [2]

1861 Canada Census

"Commencing at the Church Petit Rocher and extending to the Parish line". As it is recorded in lines 4 to 11 of the Census, we can surmise that the family lived near the church. The family is listed under the name "Asnow". All are French Canadian and Roman Catholic. I have calculated estimated years of birth.

Peter, father, 69 years old, farmer (est. year of birth 1792)
Rose, mother, 67 years old (est. year of birth 1794)
Children
Jerome, 25 (est. year of birth 1836)
Mary Snr, daughter-in-law, 27 years old (est. year of birth 1834)
Grand-daughters
Mary Jnr, 4 years old (est. year of birth 1857)
Lucey, 3 years old (est. year of birth 1858)
Grandsons
Alexander, 2 years old (est. year of birth 1859)
Joseph, 5 months (est. year of birth 1861)

[2]

Sources

  1. ↑ 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 Savard, Denis. "Dictionnaire généalogique des familles Arsenault", Sainte-Foy, Québec: Editions MultiMondes, 2000, p702.
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 New Brunswick, District Name: Gloucester, Sub-District Name: Beresford, Page Number: 12, Line Numbers: 4 to 11, Microfilm: C-1001-1002, Item Number: 1289980 via Library and Archives Canada 1861 Canada Census at [1] accessed online by Denise Chiasson on October 11, 2017.
  3. ↑ Savard, Denis. "Dictionnaire généalogique des familles Arsenault", Sainte-Foy, Québec: Editions MultiMondes, 2000, p630.
  4. ↑ "New Brunswick Provincial Marriages 1789-1950," database with images, FamilySearch [2] : 6 March 2015, Pierre Arsenault and Rose Hache, 03 Nov 1814; citing , Northumberland, New Brunswick, Canada, p. 19, Provincial Archives of New Brunswick, Fredericton; FHL microfilm 846,407 accessed online by Denise Chiasson on October 20, 2017
  5. ↑ "New Brunswick Provincial Marriages 1789-1950," database with images, FamilySearch [3]: 6 March 2015, Fabien Arsenault and Marie Hache, 15 May 1843; citing Nipisiquit, , New Brunswick, Canada, p. 252, Provincial Archives of New Brunswick, Fredericton; FHL microfilm 845,796 accessed online by Denise Chiasson on October 20, 2017

Acknowledgments

Thanks to Carroll Woods for starting this profile.




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Diane Dumont
Hi Denise,

I believe Pierre Arsenault and Rose Haché also had a daughter, Rose Arsenault, born in Petit Rocher, New Brunswick on Nov 30 1830. She was blessed at home (ondoyée) and later baptised on 16 Jan 1831 in Bathurst-Ouest (Ste-Famille), New Brunswick. Godparents were Charles Doucet Jr. and Olive Haché.

Source: Genealogy Quebec, Lafrance - List of Couples for Pierre Arsenault and Rose Haché, List of Acts - Baptism - Act 7974787, https://www.genealogiequebec.com/Membership/LAFRANCE/acte/7974787

Rose Arsenault married Pierre Grant (1828-1912), son of Pierre Grant (1792-1852) and of Françoise Haché (1803-1861). The marriage took place 6 Sep 1852, in Petit-Rocher (St-Polycarpe), New Brunswick.

Source: Genealogy Quebec, Lafrance, List of Acts - Marriage Act 6220450, https://www.genealogiequebec.com/Membership/LAFRANCE/acte/6220450

The godparents of their daughter Marie Grant, born 10 Apr 1854 and baptised 11 Apr 1854, in Petit-Rocher (St-Polycarpe), New Brunswick were listed as being Pierre Grant (presumably Pierre Grant's father) and Rose Haché (presumably Rose Arsenault's mother).

Source: https://www.genealogiequebec.com/Membership/LAFRANCE/acte/6219788

Also, the godparents of their daughter Anne Grant, born in Petit-Rocher, New Brunswick on 21 Jan 1856 and baptised 9 Feb 1856 in Belledune (St-Jean-l'Évangéliste), New Brunswick, were listed as being César Arsenault (presumably Rose Arsenault's brother) and Anne Grant (presumably Pierre Grant's sister)

Source: Genealogy Quebec, Lafrance - List of Acts, Baptism - Act 8011894, https://www.genealogiequebec.com/Membership/LAFRANCE/acte/8011894


Diane Dumont

posted by Diane Dumont
Diane Dumont
Hi Denise, in the research notes it says that Fabien Arseneau married Marie Haché in 1843 and married Marie Boudreau in 1852.

According to Généalogie Québec Lafrance records, this couple continued to have children beyond 1852 and Marie Haché attended her son Sylvain Arsenault's wedding on the 16 July 1894. I think there is some confusion over the entry in the Drouin Records, Acadia, Petit Rocher, 16 September 1852 when Fabien Commau (sic) married Marie Boudreau, witnessed by Frederick Commau (sic) and Rose Commau (sic). Thanks, Diane Dumont

posted by Diane Dumont
Bourque-573 Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
Arsenault-1101 and Arseneau-48 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, same birthdate and place. Same spouse. No conflicting information. Same source cited
posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
Denise Chiasson
Hi Carroll - Do you have any additional information surrounding this couple? Could they be the parents of César Arseneault ? He was born in Petit-Rocher, NB, on May 14, 1836, to Pierre Arseneau and Rose Haché...
posted by Denise Chiasson

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