Rose Arsenault (abt. 1768 - 1813)

Ancestors

Wife of Prospère Poirier — married 1789 (to Dec 1813) in Malpeque, Prince, Prince Edward Island, Canada

Descendants

Died Dec 1813 at about age 45 in Parish of Saint-Augustin, Queens County, Prince Edward Island, Canada

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Biography

Rose dite "Rosalie" Arseneault [Arseneau] was one of three known children of Alexandre Arsenault and Marie Renée dite "Renotte" Boudrot (or Boudreau), & was born around 1768^[1] Her birthplace may have been the Magdalen Islands, since her parents were evidently wed there around 1764.^[2]

Rose "Rosalie" became the first of the two wives of Prospère Poirier sometime in 1789, in the parish of Malpèque PE. Researchers have counted a full dozen offspring of the couple.^[3]

Rose was interred on 22 Dec 1813, although the date of her actual death is missing from the damaged Rustico parish record at that point. Her age was entered as 45.^[4] (It would have been very shortly before the burial, if the traditional routine practice of the time was followed.)

Propère Poirier remarried on 21 Apr 1815. He and his second wife, Ludivine dite "Hedwige" Aucoin, produced 7 children together, from 1817 to about 1827.

The following material may also be useful to researchers.

The following is an English translation (with original name spellings retained) of the subsequent French paragraph:

On April 1815, following three banns of marriage between Prosper Poirier widower of the late Rose Arceneau of Malpec of the one part, and Ludivine Ocouin grown daughter of Jean Ocouin and Rosalie Bernard of Chascampec of the other part and with the parents' consent and having discovered no impediment to the said marriage, we the undersigned missionary priest for these parts have received their mutual consent to marry and have given them the nuptial blessing according to the prescribed form of our holy mother church in the presence of Joseph Arceneau, Amant Galant, Fidèle Galant who with the newlyweds did not know how to sign [their names]. - Beaubien miss, prst"^[5]

Original French text... Le vingt et un avril mil huit cent quinze ayant accordé la dispense de trois bans de mariage entre Prosper Poirier veuf de défunte Rose Arceneau de Malpec d'une part et Ludivine Ocouin fille majeure de Jean Ocouin et de Rosalie Bernard de Chascampec d'autre part ce du consentement des parens, ne s'étant découvert aucun empêchement au dit mariage, nous soussigné prêtre missionnaire de ces lieux avons reçu leur mutuel consentement de mariage et leur avons donné la bénédiction nuptiale suivant la forme prescrite par notre mère la sainte église en présence de Joseph Arceneau, Amant Galant, Fidèle Galant qui avec les époux n'ont sçu signer. - Beaubien prtre miss."^[6]

Child

Names are spelled in the following entry exactly as they are in the source documents:

On September 22nd 1812, in Rustico, an adult son (name could not be interpreted for transcription) of Prosper Poirier and deceased Rose Arceneau married Elizabeth Arceneau minor daughter of....^[7]This is likely Laurent. born 1790 per Placide Gaudet.^[8]

Death

Names are spelled here exactly as they are in the source documents:

Arceneau, wife of Prospère Poirier died the day prior to her burial [sic]. The burial record is incomplete but it is in 1813 between December 6th and 22nd. Present were Joseph, Cyprien and Jean Arceneau. among several, none could sign.^[9]

Parentage clue

Rosalie Arsenault is related to one of these couples: Pierre Arseneau and Anne Boudrot or François Boudrot dit Manne and Jeanne Landry per the marriage record of her daughter Bibienne Poirier as follows.

Names are spelled here exactly as they are in the source documents: On April 26th 1815, in Rustico Prince Edward Island, Melème Arceneau, the adult son of deceased Cyprien Arceneau and .... Bourg, married Bibiane Poirier minor daughter of Prosper Poirier and deceased Rose Arceneau. All parties of Malpec. Witnesses: Groom- his brother and brother-in-law Cyprien and Placide Arceneau (these are transcribed as father and stepfather, I believe this was an easily made error between père and frère in the writing of the day. His father is deceased per the record). Bride,- her father Prosper Poirier; also Joseph Arceneau and several others, none of whom could sign.^[10]

The record shows a " troisième degrée simple de consanguinité," which would indicate the couple share a common set of great-grandparents. Prosper Poirier, her father, does not share ancestors with Melème Arceneau. To see their currently updated kinship links, view the WikiTree portraits of the personages involved,

Also, to round out and reinforce Marcel W. Landry has her as a child of Alexandre Arseneau and Marie Rene Boudrot. Alexandre is a nephew of the Pierre Arseneau noted above.(Bourque-573 13:54, 12 September 2023 (UTC))

Citations & Notes

1. ↑ est. by S.A. White, cited in Bernard 2019, p. 50.
2. ↑ Bernard 2019, p. 50, citing 2016 personal communication from scholar Georges Arsenault. Bernard also reports there, citing research by both S.A. White & Georges Arsenault, that Alexandre had been living on today's PEI in 1752, although he had been born at Beaubassin, and that Renée had been baptized at the then capital of today's PEI (that is, Port Lajoie, in what was then Île-Saint-Jean). Given that the British conducted a major expulsion of Acadians from that island & today's Cape Breton in 1758, & continued the policy officially into 1763, it seems highly likely that both of Rosalie's parents were in the Magdalens as refugees. It is unknown when they returned to what is now PEI. Incidentally, Bernard also mentions that Renée had previously wed Paul Richard around 1746.
3. ↑ Bernard 2015, pp.4224-4226.
4. ↑ Bernard 2015, p. 4224.
5. ↑ Transl by John E. DeRoche, Feb 2020.
6. ↑ "Canada Marriages, 1661-1949," see Sources.
7. ↑ Family Search Film# 008131527, Registres Paroissiaux 1812-1824, Église Catholique Saint Augustine (Rustico, Île du Prince-Édouard). pages 1227 of 1353. Marriage of son on Family Search
8. ↑ Ancestry.com. U.S. and Canada, Miscellaneous French Records (Drouin Collection), 1651-1941 [database online]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2007. Original data: Gabriel Drouin, comp. Drouin Collection. Montreal, Quebec, Canada: Institut Généalogique Drouin. Papiers (familles) de Placide Gaudet, Image 11 and 12 of 8365. Poirier Family Ancestry (paid subscription).
9. ↑ Family Search Film# 008131527, Registres Paroissiaux 1812-1824, Église Catholique Saint Augustine (Rustico, Île du Prince-Édouard). pages 1242 of 1353. Burial Family Search
10. ↑ Family Search Film# 008131527, Registres Paroissiaux 1812-1824, Eglise Catholique Saint Augustine (Rustico, Île du Prince-Édouard). pages 1273 of 1353. Marriage of daughter

Sources

• Bernard, Jean. 2015. Généalogie des familles acadiennes de l'Ile-du-Prince-Édouard c. 1764 - c. 1900. Vol. VI. Baie de Malpèque: édité par l'auteur. Pp. 4224-4227. Based on church records and census manuscripts, as well as unpublished notes provided by Stephen A. White.
• Bernard, Jean. 2019. Genealogy of the Acadian Families of Prince Edward Island c. 1764 - c. 1921. Second edition revised & updated, English version, Vol. I. Summerside PE: published by the author. Page 50.
• "Canada Marriages, 1661-1949," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F2PS-Q42: 10 February 2018), Prosper Poirier and Ludivine Ocouin, 21 Apr 1815; citing Saint Augustine Catholique, South Rustico, Queens, Prince Edward Island, reference; FHL microfilm 928,972. To access the relevant page directly, use the URL https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSVR-VSVN-W (as of Feb 2020).
• MacIsaac, John, & Lillian DesRoches. 2007. “The Descendants of Georges DesRoches.” Accessed online 7 Jul 2012 at [1].