Louise Arseneau
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Anne Arseneau (1734 - aft. 1806)

Anne (Louise) Arseneau aka Arsenault
Born in Beaubassin, Acadie, Colony of Nova Scotiamap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married 1752 in Isle St. Jean, Acadie, Nouvelle-Francemap
Descendants descendants
Died after after age 72 in Havre-Aubert, Îles-de-la-Madeleine, Bas-Canadamap [uncertain]
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Biography

Anne, dite Louise, Arseneau was born 3 February 1734. She was a daughter of Claude Arseneau and Marguerite Richard. She was baptized the same day at Beaubassin. Her godparents were Jacques Vigneau and Marguerite Cyr.[1][2]

She was listed at age 18 in the 1752 census taken by Sieur de la Roque at Macpec (Malpec), Isle St. Jean, Acadia, with her widowed mother and eight siblings.[3]

Joseph Boudrot married Anne (dite Louise) Arseneau about 1752, likely in Isle St. Jean, Acadie. [2]

Joseph and Louise appear on the census of 1763 at Isles de la Magdelaine. They were on a list of Acadians who wrote to the King of France, wishing to go to a colony administered by the French.[4]

She died after 21 October 1806.[2]

Research Notes

The statements below attributed to Dennis Boudreau are being verified. Results will be posted here. (Cormier-1939 18:28, 11 February 2024 (UTC))

Notes Regarding her Parents from Dennis Boudreau, copied from the website Nos Origines. [5]

In 2009, I posted a correction to the subject of Louise Arsenault, wife of Joseph Boudrot, ancestors of one (in fact, my own) branch of the Boudreau family at the Magdalen Islands, saying we (Stephen White, Paul Delaney and I) had concluded that she was the daughter of Claude Arsenault and his wife, Marguerite Richard.

Very recently (in fact, with results received just a few days ago), an mtDNA analysis was done on one of her female descendants, and as you and your readers may know, mitochondrial DNA never changes (except for a few mutations) from one generation to another in females for many hundreds of years.

In the study, we had isolated six possible Arsenault couples as her possible parents, along with their mtDNA haplotypes as follows:

  1. François Arsenault and Marguerite Bernard (maternal line back to Perrine Bourg) > (H)
  2. Jacques Arsenault and Marie Poirier (maternal line back to Marguerite Doucet) > (T)
  3. Charles Arsenault and Cécile Breau (maternal line back to Françoise Gaudet) > (H)
  4. Pierre Arsenault and Marguerite Cormier (maternal line back to Geneviève Lefranc) > (W)
  5. Abraham Arsenault and Marie-Josèphe Savoie (maternal line back to Catherine Bugaret) > (H)
  6. Claude Arsenault and Marguerite Richard (maternal line back to Michelle Aucoin) > (H)

Well, the descendant who was tested revealed a resulting haplotype W, so since DNA never lies, Louise was actually and without a doubt the daughter of the above Pierre Arseneau and Marguerite Cormier, whose maternal great-grandmother was Geneviève Lefranc, the wife of Étienne (sic Antoine) Hébert, and who passed along the same mtDNA haplotype W to her female descendants.We can now say with absolute certainty that these were indeed her parents, and we can prove it by documented records from this point down.

Unlike many enumerated in the 1752 census of LaRoque, Louise was one of many children unfortunately omitted from this census record. Stephen White has identified that there were several omissions of people in this census, including a great number of children which LaRoque had missed entirely. Louise falls into this category.

Another factor adds to this, in that her brother Claude was at the Magdalens in 1765, with his brother-in-law Charles Arsenault, both of whom signed Richard Gridley's oath of allegiance, but soon afterwards, left there and migrated to mainland Quebec, ending up in the Sorel region.What was proven earlier by marriage dispensations remains intact, except to add that some consanguine relationships were omitted from a couple of records, for no apparent reason except the pastor's discretion or lack of knowledge concerning them.

I think it is now very safe to say this ancestry will not change, as we have this new-found, irrefutable evidence of Louise's maternal DNA sequence. You may add her to her proper family. Unfortunately, I have no birth record nor death record available for her specifically, except to say that she died at Havre-Aubert, QC, between 1806 (when she was the witness at the marriage of her granddaughter, Marguerite Cormier) and 1808 (her husband's death record in which he is identified as the "widower" of Louise). A death record does not exist as the pastor was absent from the Islands in this time period.

I am posting this so that previous conclusions can be expunged, and newer conclusions can be updated to replace them, as we all know how often some things on the Internet just "hang around" forever and cause confusion to researchers.

Best regards, Dennis Boudreau

Sources

  1. Library and Archives Canada Fonds des Archives départementales de la Charente-Maritime [La Rochelle, France] : C-1207 Registres de Beaubassin - reel_c1207 MG 6 A 2 (Image 46) http://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/oocihm.lac_reel_c1207/46?r=0&s=6
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Karen Theriot Reader, Page for Anne dite Louise Arseneau, citing Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire généalogique des familles acadiennes: 1715 à 1780, (Moncton, NB: Centre d'Études Acadiennes, draft version)
    ARSENEAU #9 e -
    Anne (dite Louise) ARSENEAU, born/baptized on 3 Feb 1734 , daughter of Claude dit Ambroise ARSENEAU & Marguerite dite Magitte RICHARD. Sponsors: Jacques VIGNEAU & Marguerite CYR (Beaubassin Register).
    1752 : Census - Isle St. Jean, Acadia. Married around 1752 (according to P. Delaney). [S?]he died after 21 Oct 1806.
  3. Report Concerning Canadian Archives for the Year 1905, Volume II (Ottawa: S.E.Dawson, 1905); 1752 La Roque Census, p. 154/image 338. A transcription, in French, can be found at Census Transcription “Recensement de l'Isle Royal et de Isle Saint-Jean ” p. 574/Image 579;
    Marguerite Richard, widow of the late Claude Arcenaud, native of l'Acadie, aged 45 years, she has been 15 years in the country.
    She has nine children, four sons and five daughters:-
    Claude Arcenauld, eldest son, aged 24 years.
    Paul, aged 20 years.
    Ambroise, aged 14 years.
    Joseph, aged 11 years.
    Magdelaine, aged 21 years.
    Anne, aged 18 years
    Judich, aged 16 years.
    Rose, aged 9 years
    Anastazie, aged 7 years.
    She has in livestock, seven oxen, three cows, four heifers, one horse, seven wethers, eight ewes, two sows, one pig, and one hen.
    They hold their land under a grant given by Messieurs Duchambon and Dubuisson under date of 6th September, 1742, and homolgated. On it they have made a clearing and sown nineteen bushels of wheat, one bushel of barley, three bushels of oats, one bushel of peas, and have fallow land sufficient for the sowing of thirty-two bushels.
  4. Liste of Inhabitants from Isle St Jean at Port LaJoye on 17th September, 1763 Letter to the King. List, (Archived link) transcribed by Karen Theriot Reader (used with permission granted 5/22/20). Transcription and original published by Acadian.org "Rare list of P.E.I. Acadians intrigues N.B. researchers,"
    Joseph BOUDRAU Louise ARCENOU. 7: enfants
    accessed May 2021
  5. Biography, Nos Origines https://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/biography.aspx?name=Arsenault_Louise-Anne&id=433505&lng=en

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Arsenault-1926 and Arseneau-276 appear to represent the same person because: Same dates, same husband. However, parents may need to be changed per DNA results explained in Arseneau-276.

Merging into Arseneau which is the standard spelling per Acadians project guidelines.

posted by Gisèle Cormier
Parents need to be changed per DNA memo on profile.
posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
I wrote to Stephen White today about this. Although the memo dates from 2012, no changes have been made in the usual reliable family trees or in "Ajouts et corrections" of DGFA. The article by Georges Arsenault and Earle Lockerby cited above, which dates from 2016, mentions Joseph Boudrot and Louise Arseneau in the 1763 census, and email exchanges between Dennis Boudreau, Stephen White and others in 2012, but Louise's parents are not named. Even though Boudreau's arguments are quite convincing, I hesitate to change her parents without White's opinion.
posted by Gisèle Cormier
Cindy asked me to look into this...

I don't see any evidence that there is a Haplogroup W descendant.

posted by Murray Maloney
Arsenault-567 and Arseneau-276 appear to represent the same person because: Same names, same birthdate and place, source on Arsenault-567 says same spouse.

Notes on DNA findings of Arseneau-276 could mean change of parents, but it doesn't change the need to merge these profiles.

posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
Arsenault-889 and Arseneau-276 appear to represent the same person because: clear duplicate; merge into Arseneau, correct spelling for Acadian Project
posted by Jacqueline Girouard
We really need to see a marriage document that proves this woman married this Joseph Boudrot, son of François Boudrot dit Manne and Jeanne Landry.
posted by Jacqueline Girouard
Arsenault-889 and Arsenault-567 do not represent the same person because: I have a copy of original baptism record.
posted on Arsenault-567 (merged) by [Living Gaudet]

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