Chase Ashley
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Chase Ashley

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Chase W. Ashley
Born 1950s.
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Any way to narrow down to Gateway ancestors only?
posted by Frankie Johnson
What kind of Gateway ancestors are you looking for? The app already allows you to generate lists of Magna Carta Gateway Ancestors.
posted by Chase Ashley
Hi Chase, I was wondering if it would be possible to add an option Ancestor Explorer to look for US President Direct Ancestors?
posted by M Cole
Do those profiles use a sticker, template or category to designate them as such?
posted by Chase Ashley
The category is "US President Direct Ancestors"
posted by M Cole
I'll add it, but may be a while, as I am busy on some other things.
posted by Chase Ashley
Hi there! A glitch to report with Ancestor Explorer on the Canadian immigrants list: its capturing my ancestor who was born in the province of East (New ) Jersey and died in New Brunswick, New Jersey. Looks like you just need to qualify the parsing a little more. How to distinguish the province of Jersey from the Bailiwick? Or the province of New Brunswick from the city in NI? I guess that’s why you make the big bucks! ;) profile is Higgins-228

Love the app! Can’t believe that 550 people migrated to Canada just so I could be alive! :)

posted by Bernard Ellis
Hi,

When I look into Barthelemy Courtemanche in the Ancestor Explorer it show no Native ancestry. Barthelemy was married to a Metis woman, Josephe Maillet/Maguet. She was descended from Etienne Pirisi Pigarouisnunepiresi Pigarouiche an Ojibway medicine man. His father was Chief Roch Abenaki Manitouabeouich and his mother was Outchibahabanouk Ouehou .Manitouabeouich (born Outchibahanoukouéou). Barthelemy was my 5th ggrandfather on my mom's side. Shortsleeve/Shortsleve/Courtemanche.

posted by Nancy Rapchak
edited by Nancy Rapchak
Hi Nancy - Ancestor Explorer only lists ancestors that are connected to the Descendant on WikiTree. As far as I can tell, Etienne Pirisi Pigarouisnunepiresi Pigarouiche is not connected an ancestor of Joseph Maillet/Maguet on WikiTree. In addition, the Native American list category on Ancestor Explorer only lists those ancestors of the Descendant who were Native Americans, "as indicated by the presence of the Native American sticker or project template on their profile."
posted by Chase Ashley
Regarding Ancestor Explorer, I like it, but when downloading the csv file and opening it up in a spreadsheet, The column where the name should be (where the link is on the wikitree page) gives be a column of 501 errors. I.e. no names and no links Anything you can do to fix this? Thnaks in advance
posted by Marvin Løvenfeldt
I just generated a list of your ancestors for 10 generation, downloaded it, and had no problem opening it in either Google Numbers or my old version of Excel. What spreadsheet app are you using? I believe there is at least one that uses a different format for hyperlinks that is not compatible with the format Numbers and Excel (and my app) use.
posted by Chase Ashley
Thanks for your reply. I use OpenOffice Calc.

Never heard of Google Numbers - don't you mean google sheets? When I import the file into google sheets I get the same error in the "name" column

posted by Marvin Løvenfeldt
Sorry. Meant Apple Numbers. But I just tried Google Sheets and also had no problem. Could you email me the csv file to test out? chasewashley(at)gmail.com
posted by Chase Ashley
edited by Chase Ashley
Chase,

Thanks for the pre-mailing notification on NEHGR, and congratulations on your article. Several ancestors discussed in the issue. I think I had resolved where those Chases fit in my tree. Elizabeth Philbrick is my 9th ggm. My gf left one small clue in his notes which led to discovering those ancestors (and having to assure my aunt in her last lucid days that his research was remarkably good, not to complain about people checking). I still haven't sorted out those county histories, although I was married in Rockingham Co (not for the last time). I had no idea how consistently torn up that publication would be when I signed up for mail copies. Tim

posted by Tim Prince
Hello, Chase. I read about your Ancestor Explorer app in Randy Seaver's Genea-Musings this morning. He commented that the map gave him one inexplicable location in Africa. Oddly, the same thing happened to me just now. The location that showed up in Africa (actually just off the west coast) is a 1764 birth listed as "Maryland or North Carolina." Just FYI. Interesting app, and it could have saved me a lot of time writing up my own ahnentafel list, had I known about it! Thank you!
posted by Julie Kelts
The app uses Google Maps geocoding API to try to figure out what location is meant by the text in the location field. Sometimes it will can't figure it out and will either put the marker in a location with a similar name or, if it can't figure it out at all, it will put the marker in western Africa at 0 lat, 0 lng.

If the text in the location field is a correct name of a particular location, the solution is to use the app's Fix Coordinates function, which allows you to drag and drop the marker in the correct place, which will then be permanently stored in the apps data base. In other cases, the problem is that the text in the location field is not the correct name of a single location - eg "Maryland or North Carolina" is not a single location and therefore cannot be mapped. In that case, the solution is to correct the location field. I think rather than putting alternative locations (or names) in fields, it is better to make a best guess and discuss in the bio.

posted by Chase Ashley
Thank you! ....................
posted by Julie Kelts
Wooop Wooop! Congrats on the recent publication in NEHGR!!!!
posted by Jillaine Smith
Hello Sir. I was wondering if you might give me a hand with this ancestor explorer PLEASE.
posted by Anonymous Henderson Jr
Sure. What kind of help are you looking for? When I plug in your wikitree ID (Henderson-2537) as the Descendant and generate a list of all ancestors, the app shows a list of 21 ancestors, which I think is all the ancestors you are connected to on wikitree. Note that the app does not find or connect any new ancestors; it just produces lists of ancestors that your are already connected to. As such, it's most useful for people who are connected to hundreds or thousands of ancestors and want to a full list or various subsets.
posted by Chase Ashley
Hi there, thanks for the great ancestor explorer app. A problem has popped up: The American Revolution list has stopped pulling anyone with the NSSAR Patriot Ancestor sticker. It only shows those with the 1776 sticker. DAR sticker I'm not sure. Thanks in advance for fixing.
posted by Bernard Ellis
Hmmm. It worked in the example I just tried. Can you give me an example of where it didn't work?
posted by Chase Ashley
Here are a couple:

Benjamin Cumings I (1757-1804) Samuel Joslin (1752-1815)

They had both appeared on prior lists. I had 14 patriots; now only showing 8 :(

Thanks for taking another look.

posted by Bernard Ellis
I think I fixed the problem. I uploaded the new version (same url). It's ver 10a.4.Feb.2021, which should appear to the far right of the Download button. If you see an older version number, do a hard refresh.

The new version lists 13 Am Rev ancestors for you. If you think one is missing, let me know which one.

posted by Chase Ashley
Hi Chase,

Thanks, but [Ranstead-2] is now missing. He is likely the only one without the NSSAR Patriot Ancestor Sticker, just the 1776 one. I had added in the 1776 one to everyone who only had NSSAR, to get them to pop up. So perhaps it's now only catching the NSSAR sticker? I also discovered a patriot ancestor who was lacking any stickers at all, so I applied both. Sorry for the shell game on your troubleshooting! I guess I could go take the 1776 off another one of them to test my hypothesis, but my gut is to leave you with an unchanged test set at this point! My total should now be 15 unique ancestors, one with two lineages.

I'll find out how to get John Ranstead into the NSSAR patriot database, but that's obviously not a sustainable solution :)

Thanks! Bernard

posted by Bernard Ellis
P.S. I feel like I'm looking a gift horse in the mouth. Before I ran your app, I was aware of only six patriots I descended from--I don't think I would have ever gotten around to trolling for them. And the one that popped up on my mother's French Canadian side was a huge surprise to dozens of people! Likewise, the four Filles du Roi ancestors I had tracked down, feeling very pleased with myself--turns out there's 53!!! Thanks again for facilitating these revelations with your software.!
posted by Bernard Ellis
edited by Bernard Ellis
Thanks for the bug report. I had broken one thing when I fixed the other. I now think I have it fixed for all. The new version is marked 12p.11.Feb.2021. It shows you with 15 AmRev ancestors, including John Ranstead.
posted by Chase Ashley
From your friends at the Appreciation Team:

Congrats on the Super Star Badge!

posted by SJ Baty
Hi Chase. Great app. My mother seems to be missing from my Ancestor list. I am Vandevis-11 It would be great if I could get statistics for anyone, not just me because I am signed in. Keep up the great work. My mother is still alive. Not sure if that matters.
posted by Dr. Ted Vandevis
edited by Dr. Ted Vandevis
Your mother is missing because her profile is private. The app currently doesn't have an option for you to log in so it can access private info. That's something I've been thinking about adding.
posted by Chase Ashley
Loving the Ancestor Exporer - thanks! Would it be possible to view the lines for the same ancestor in a family tree form?

"Show number of lines to same ancestor (if multiple lines of descent)" DIsplays lists which is great but I love graphics. Annette Boshoff

posted by Annette (Kloppers) Boshoff
edited by Annette (Kloppers) Boshoff
WOW! That's all for now, but your code wouldn't accept four characters.
posted by Raymond Dotson
Ray - What input wouldn't the app take? I'm always interested in hearing about bugs that need fixing.
posted by Chase Ashley
Sorry, Chase. Not a problem with your excellent app.  I tried to send you a quickie "WOW!" but W'Tree frowns upon any submission a mere four characters in length.  Being a coder from the early days of HTML, I appreciate great code work.  Being a struggling devotee of family historical documentation, I appreciate this app you have provided for one and all. A very sincere Thanks! 
posted by Raymond Dotson
Hahaha. I know the problem. There have been a bunch times when I've posted things like "Thanks! [additional characters to satisfy 23 character minimum]"
posted by Chase Ashley
Great app. Would it be possible to supply a URL with the desired input? I've used links to the Relationship Finder in this manner as a shortcut to seeing a relationship trail.

If so, perhaps along with the Map and Download buttons, you could have a button to link to the displayed information or copies the URL to the clipboard.

Good work!

posted by John Kingman
Interesting idea. I'll think about adding that. (Haven't done it before, so would take some learning on my part.) Although I think the time savings would be less than for Relationship Finder, because Relationship Finder runs so quickly that the most time consuming part is inputting the WikiTree ids. Ancestor Explorer is a lot slower (at least if you are generating a list with a lot of ancestors), so saving the inputs doesn't save that much time relative to the overall time the app takes to generate its output.
posted by Chase Ashley
One of the ways I use this with the Relationship finder is to show my relationship trail to a Mayflower ancestor. I have links like this in my profile:

Samuel Fuller, Sr.

posted by John Kingman
Thanks for creating the listmaker. Just wondering why it is flagging Thomas Starey Meredith as gedcom junk?
The app uses WikiTree+ to identify gedcom junk. I'm not sure what WikiTree+ is looking for, but I suspect it is identifying the LDS Baptism section as gedcom junk.
posted by Chase Ashley
Thank you for creating Listmaker. I have a problem. When I generate a list with 20 generations, all ancestors and Include generation and ahnentafel number column. The gen-ahnen column looks fine. But when I download the list it appears as dates. If I formate the column as general, it appears as a number. Am I doing something wrong?
posted by Larry Arms
That's an Excel issue. When you import a csv file, if you don't tell Excel what data type a column of data is, it tries to guess. In this case, it is guessing that some of the gen-ahnen column entries are intended to be dates. The way to avoid that is to specify that the column is text when you open/import the csv file. How you do that will depend on which version of Excel you have.
posted by Chase Ashley
The Listmaker is very cool. I have many ancestors to look at based on the list. But the best thing it did for me was show my Mom who was born in Los Angeles and a great Grandfather from West Virginia as immigrants. That took me back to their profiles, entered 6 years ago, to add United States! I doubt I would have found that without this app. So - Thank you.
Hi, Chase, tried your Ancestor Listmaker, it did not work for me. I have a Mayflower Ancestor 13 Generations ago named THOMAS MATTHEW ROGERS(born ; 15 Jul 1565, Stratford On Avon, Warwickshire, England )

(died: 20 Feb 1611, Stratford On Avon, Warwickshire, England) His son THOMAS ROGERS, born 22 Jul 1582 - ENGLAND,; died 1621 Plymouth, Massachusetts Colony.

posted by Clarence Rogers
Clarence - Your Wikitree profile's privacy setting is set to Private, which means the app can't see who your ancestors are. If you want to use the app, I suggest you change your Privacy setting to "Private with Public Family Tree". You can always change it back to Private later if you want.
posted by Chase Ashley
Chase, Thank you for the Ancestor Listmaker! Can you explain how I would use the ahnentafel number to show the line of descent? When I look at the profile of my ancestor I cannot see the 65 lines and hope that this will break them down for me.

Thanks, Frank Howland

posted by Frank Howland Jr
To see the lines of descent, click the >< icon to the right of the ancestor's name in the list.
posted by Chase Ashley
Hi Chase, thanks for the Ancestor Listmaker and for including Australian immigrants. I like the way you've based it on birth and death locations, and not relying on Categories.
I just wanted to thank you very much for making the Ancestor Listmaker. Even though I am extreemly intrested in learning more, I seem to be a perpetual beginner at this and everything helps. Thanks again!!
posted by Laurie (Noakes) Powell
thank you for the making the ancestor listmaker thank you very much regards Jennifer
posted by Jennifer Broadhurst
Hi cousin, would it be possible to add a simple search box? Something that would allow us to search for keywords or with globbing even? Rather than filtre by categories I'm thinking that it would be neat if we could do so by place name or even time period, ie, "Virginia" or "1781".

Kurt, a fellow Matthew Harriman descendant

posted by Kurt Driver
edited by Kurt Driver
You can do some of that already. If you use the Location Text search box, you can enter Virginia and generate a list of those profiles that have Virginia in either the birth or death location field. As the directions for the Location Text search box say, you can fine tune that by, for example, getting a list of only those ancestors who were born in Virginia by entering b:Virginia in the Location Text search box.

For dates, the best the app can currently do for that is allow you to sort any list by birth date or death date. Just click on the applicable column heading to sort by that heading. A second click reverses the order of the sorting.

posted by Chase Ashley
I am not able to generte any other relatives list.

Any suggstions you might have to help me with this would be apprreciated. I also need to add some info to blank spaces.

Thanks, really enjoyed seeing my ancestors on aa long long list!

posted by Sue (Gard) Davis
The app only generates lists of direct ancestors of the person you enter as the Descendant. It does not generate a list of cousins or other types of relatives.
posted by Chase Ashley
Just tried out the Ancestor Application and I thought it was wonderfully fun! I actually found out that I go back further than I knew!

I have a question, though: I was wondering how and/or who decides if a profile fits into a certain category? For example, I have one ancestor who is written about in several books about Huguenots, yet is not listed in the Huguenot Societies' lists. Evidently someone had to care enough about that to put his name in. Yet, one of the characteristics (so I understand) is that Huguenots were very likely to just blend into the culture where they settled and assimilate. Forgive me, if this is a better question for G2G! Mainly I just want to know how these things get decided!

Hi Alexandra - The criteria used for each list is briefly described in the list drop-down menu. For most of the lists (including Huguenots and American Revolution), an ancestor's inclusion on the list is dependent on someone having added an applicable sticker, template or category to their profile. Anyone can add or remove the stickers, templates or categories from the profiles. Since many people do not add stickers, templates or categories, the lists are probably under-inclusive.
posted by Chase Ashley
Hello Mr. Ashley,

Sorry to bother you. Your Ancestor Application is responding very well to three of my Gateway Ancestors connecting me to several Magna Carta Baron Sureties but it is not responding to one of my Gateway Ancestors, Grace Chetwood (Chetwood-1). Apparently a trail from Grace Chetwood to one of the Barons has already been approved by the Magna Carta Group but your program is not responding. Perhaps they are currently re-reviewing the previously approved trail or are working on other trails.

When you have a free moment, could you please provide me with an answer. Your cooperation will be greatly appreciated.

It works fine if you go back only 16 or 17 generations from Chetwood-1. I think the problem is that, even at 16 generations, Chetwood-1 has over 17,000 ancestors, 14,000 of them duplicates (due to pedigree) collapse, and at 17 generations, she has 30,000 ancestors, 26,000 of them duplicates. I initially tried 20 generations and the app never spat out a result, probably because there would have been 100,000+ ancestors and something timed out. At 16 and 17 generations back from Chetwood-1, the app shows her to be descended from 15 of the Surety Barons.
posted by Chase Ashley
AWESOME WORK Mr. Chase Ashley! This is the best application I’ve seen in quite sometime! By the way, It looks like you’re my 7th cousin!

I hope that in the near future we can trace our ancestry 30 generations back!

Keep up your great work!

Someone recommended the ancestor listmaker tool. It looks awesome! I was wondering if you knew of the opposite tool? I am looking for a tool that looks for descendants of a person. I have asked about it in this question: https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1123608/is-there-way-find-famous-notable-descendants-wikitree-entry. I thought I'd give it a shot and see if you might have an idea about a descendants search tool. Thank you!
posted by Alex Campbell
The Ancestry Listmaker is fabulous. I have spent the past hour downloading categories and noticing folks who need to be labeled so as to be included in the category. What a lot of work your list represents. Thank you so much.
Hi Chase, this is just a thank you for your Ancestor Listmakers. I have been putting them to work and love the Immigrants list. Just out of curiosity I checked our relationship and we are 12th cousins at John Travers. so, Hi, Cousin! and keep up the good work. Berry Lynne Hill, "Lynne"
posted by Lynne Allen
Hi Chase. Trying to find ancestors in the Pequot War of 1637, Thomas Starr (Starr-25) is my direct ancestor and is listed in the Category Pequot War of 1637 but I used Pequot War of 1637 and just Pequot in the search box and get 0 ancestors. Am I searching wrong?
posted by Michael Stills
Ah..I think the profile needs a sticker which places them in a Category. Can we search a Category without having a sticker?
posted by Michael Stills
Michael - I assume you are talking about Ancestor Listmaker. Many of the lists work off templates/stickers. The description of the list should say that if it does. For the Category list, however, it works off of searches on WikiTree+ for categories with the search term in it, so it shouldn't need a sticker. But it is dependent on someone having added the applicable category to the profile.
posted by Chase Ashley
Yes, Listmaker. Starr-25 has the Category Pequot War of 1637 on his profile, but when I enter that or just Pequot, it returns 0 results.

In fact, I can not get anything to show up with the Category search box.

posted by Michael Stills
edited by Michael Stills
It seems like a problem with/change to WikiTree+. I'll check with Ales.
posted by Chase Ashley
Ales fixed the bug in WikiTree+. It should work now.
posted by Chase Ashley
Works great, Awesome! Thank you.
posted by Michael Stills
RE: The 'notables' option:Someone had removed the
Notables Project
Chase Ashley is Notable.
from a profile and when I asked about this they had done it as stickers are optional and not to her liking. She had, however, replaced it with one of the 'notables' categories. In this case but there are others, such as

Would it be possible to add these two categories along with any others of that class? Thx!

posted by Thom Anderson
Thom - Good suggestion. I'll try to add that to the next update. In the mean time, you can get the same result by using the Category Text list option and putting Notables in the text box. That should get you a list of all ancestors of the Descendant who are in a category whose name includes the word Notables.
posted by Chase Ashley
Thom - Can you point out a profile that has the notable category but not the sticker? I am revising Ancestor Listmaker to work with either the sticker or the category and want to test it out, but I'm having a problem finding a profile in the category but without the sticker.
posted by Chase Ashley
The original example was for Edward I of England but I ended up replacing the sticker near the bottom rather than the top as a compromise with the PM.

I did take Sempill-37 and added <!-- and --> comment markers around the sticker to temporarily remove it, then went back and embedded a space and a line feed in case the comment doesn't work. This will give you a test case. Feel free to restore the profile when done testing or I can do so . . . just let me know when you are finished. No rush.

posted by Thom Anderson
Thanks. Seems to work. Btw, the new version has a new URL and has been rebranded as Ancestor Explorer. The big added feature is mapping. See https://apps.wikitree.com/apps/ashley1950/ancestorexplorer/
posted by Chase Ashley
Hi Chase! :) I love the Ancestor Listmaker!!! I think more Projects should be added to the options as well. Great app! Thanks for creating it!
posted by Greta Moody
High Ashley; Your name was shown as a contact for information regarding the Ancestor Listmaker. My question may or may not be in your sphere of knowledge, but you're the only contact I've got. I would like to down this list in a PDF format so that it can be printed, but the only option I have is to download it a .csv format, and I don't know how to translate it. Is there a way?
posted by Mel Green
Mel - If you import the cvs file to a spreadsheet program (eg Excel), you should be able to save (or print or export) the page as a pdf.
posted by Chase Ashley
Worked like a charm!! Thank you Chase. BTW, I think I got your first name and surname mixed up. Sorry about that!!
posted by Mel Green
No problem. Not a bad error, as I was indirectly named after early New England immigrant Aquila Chase, so my first name came from the Chase last name.
posted by Chase Ashley
Thanks Chase for all your hard work on the Ancestor Listmaker app!  It motivated me to add a bunch of Civil War and American Revolutionary War stickers, but unfortunately only two profiles are showing up on the Listmaker.  It's odd; Joseph Beard shows up, but his brother Andrew Beard doesn't.  Interestingly, Joseph (as well as his father, Andrew) show up on my list of "All Ancestors", but brother Andrew doesn't.  That makes me wonder if it's not a sticker problem but something in the filtering of relations.  It's the same with Civil War Veterans.  Only Green Shinn shows up, and he is also on my All Ancestors list.  But Elijah Gabriel and his brother Nehemiah Gabriel aren't on the Civil War list, and they aren't on my All Ancestors list either (but their father Reason Gabriel is on my All Ancestor list).  I have another 20 or so blood relatives with Civil War stickers that don't make Listmaker's Civil War or All Ancestors lists.  Any thoughts?  Thanks for your time.    
posted by Jay Benefiel
Jay - I think the reason that Andrew Beard, Elijah Gabriel and Nehemiah Gabriel don't show up is that (at least according to Relationship Finder) they aren't your ancestors. They are siblings of your ancestors.
posted by Chase Ashley
OK, I see now. We're talking about direct lineal descendants, not collateral ones. Thanks for your patience!
posted by Jay Benefiel
Chase, can we sort Ancestor Listmaker by profile manager? For example, I have 40 ancestors (within 14 generations) whose profiles have Source Junk, but I do not manage most of them. I would like to ID those I manage and clean them up first before pushing for changes on the others.
posted by Michael Stills
edited by Michael Stills
Michael - I'll think about adding an option to include a column that lists the manager. More of a user interface design issue than anything else.
posted by Chase Ashley
Thanks Chase, love the app, it thinks like I do.
posted by Michael Stills
Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting your Ancestor Listmaker. I am trying to update my profiles and this will be very useful.

Teresa Bruton

Just discovered the list-maker ... it's awesome!! Thank You!!
posted by Jill (Neibaur) Olson
I just wanted to stop by and tell you how much I appreciated the Ancestor Listmaker tool. it's gives me a nice overview of the progress of my tree in a very nice format. Thanks!
posted by Britt-Marie Sohlström
edited by Britt-Marie Sohlström
Hi again! I'm really enjoying playing with the Ancestor Listmaker. It turned up 13 surety barons for my immigrant ancestor - in checking on the ones that weren't listed, I think I found a bug: Surety Baron de Vere was ommited de_Vere-309 (because "de" included in LNAB?).

Anyway, I checked using Warenne-97 (de Vere's gr-gr-granddaughter) & the Listmaker only turns up Quincy (Quincy-226) for her.

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Thanks, Liz. You are correct. The app was looking for De_Vere-309, which is how his WT id is listed on his profile, but the ancestor data that the app gets back from WT lists his WT id as De Vere-309 without the underscore. I have now fixed that, so that Warenne-97 and other descendants of Robert de Vere will now find him as a Magna Carta Surety Baron ancestor.

Btw, you may need to do a hard refresh to clear the old version of Ancestor Listmaker out of your browser cache. I have started adding version stamps to the app versions on the bottom right hand corner of the startup page in the format of hour.day.month.year. The new one is (ver 1p.6.7.20). If you don't see this new version stamp, when you are on the app page, hold down Command + Shift and press R if you have a Mac and press Control and F5 if you have a Windows machine to remove to old version from your browser cache.

posted by Chase Ashley
Thanks again! And thanks for the reminder to do a hard refresh.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Just FYI: I know of one ancestor who was in the Revolutionary War (Weatherby-156), but the search with Ancestor Listmaker turned up no one. So I'm still wondering if there are some more.  ??

Also: I saw a note that the list is generated from DAR and SAR records. From my (admittedly brief) experience with DAR and SAR records, these people would "turn up the toes" of the WikiTree founders because they apparently do not check nor ask for sources/accuracy. But just my limited experience.

Carol Lillevang

posted by Carol Lillevang
Hi Carol Lillevang,

As a relatively new member of the DAR, I think the source requirements are very much more strenuous than they used to be. Which is why it's so difficult for newer applicants to "prove" their ancestor. My guess (and it's only a guess) is that further back, more people had their family bibles and a lot of personal records and keepsakes that they kept than we do now. I know there are records that my father made our family tree from, that were kept in his grandparents' family bibles. But the bibles either don't exist any more, or those who hold them aren't sharing <grin>. I'd be very interested to know if those are the records you are talking about?

Unable to view fan tree, my 4x great-grandfather served in the American Revolution War

His name is James Young, was told to ask for help

posted by Jocelyn Young
My app is not the fan tree app. I no nothing about the fan tree app.
posted by Chase Ashley
Yes, Thank you! I have several questions, however. Some profiles, not created or managed by me, but among my ancestors, appear on the GED Junk list. Is the way to remove them to edit the profiles and add additional sources/references? Also, although both Elizabeth Tilley and John Howland appeared on my Mayflower ancestors list, her parents did not. Curious about why not? And a third question, I descend from many more men who have documented Revolutionary War service than appeared on my list. How was that list compiled? What is needed to be sure these men are recognized for their service? DAR or SAR designation? I know I'll enjoy using the list maker. I was aware I descended from many early New Amsterdam settlers, but seeing them in a list has me rethinking my heritage a bit.
Re GEDCOM junk - yes, you are correct. Specific to removing GEDCOM junk, see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:GEDCOM-Created_Biographies

Re Elizabeth Tilley's parents - They are included if you search at least 13 generations back. Her parents were John Tilley and Joan Hurst (maiden name).

Re Revolutionary War - the criteria for including ancestors each list are set forth in the List type/criteria dropdown menu where you pick the type of list. In the case of Revolutionary War, it lists profiles that have the 1776 sticker or project template on them or that are in the NSDAR or NSSAR Patriot Ancestor categories.

posted by Chase Ashley
Hi Chase,

I just saw your list maker for the first time! I know what I'll be doing for the next few days! Thank you so much! By the way, we are 8th cousins through James Keith, Sr.

posted by Larry Dunn
Thanks for the list maker ap ❤️
posted by Kaye (Davis) Stover
Great list! I see William Bradford. Jr., born 1624 in "Plymouth, Plymouth," listed as an immigrant. But this Plymouth is in what is now Massachusetts, so he's not an immigrant. I don't know whether his profile needs to be changed or the list's selection criteria.
posted by Joan (Watts) Carter
Thanks, Joan. For the American Ancestors list, the app checks all the ancestors to see if their Birth and Death Location fields include a location term that indicates that the event occurred in America. If the Death Location field does but the Birth Location field doesn't, the app assumes the ancestor was an American immigrant. The app's list of American place names includes Plymouth Colony but does not include Plymouth (without the word Colony) since that could be in England. If you change Plymouth, Plymouth to the more accurate Plymouth, Plymouth Colony, William Bradford Jr will drop from the list.
posted by Chase Ashley
edited by Chase Ashley
Chase, well done - I love the results from your hard work developing the Ancestor List generator.
posted by Karen (Malley) Morris
Incredible development.....thank you and proud of you, Cousin ! David and Chase are 10th cousins once removed (Uncertain)

David Morehead and Chase Ashley are both descendants of Thomas Parke.

1. David is the son of [private mother] [unknown confidence] 2. [Private] is the daughter of Elton Tully [unknown confidence] 3. Elton is the son of LeMon DeGary Sexton (Lunsford) Tully [unknown confidence] 4. LeMon is the daughter of John Thomas Lunsford [unknown confidence] 5. John is the son of Peyton Spear Lunsford [unknown confidence] 6. Peyton is the son of Peyton Charnock Lunsford [unknown confidence] 7. Peyton is the son of Elizabeth (Wyatt) Lunsford [unknown confidence] 8. Elizabeth is the daughter of William Wyatt [unknown confidence] 9. William is the son of Elizabeth (Park) Wyatt [confident] 10. Elizabeth is the daughter of Joseph (Parkes) Parke [unknown confidence] 11. Joseph is the son of Nathaniel Parke [unknown confidence] 12. Nathaniel is the son of Thomas Parke [unknown confidence] This makes Thomas the tenth great grandfather of David.

posted by David Morehead
Thanks for the list maker. Great !
posted by LG Price

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