Chase Ashley
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Chase Ashley

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Chase W. Ashley
Born 1950s.
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Will I be able to move my ancestry.com work to wikitree.
posted by Ronald Whitaker
Hi Ron,

Not sure why you are asking me. But as a general matter, yes, trees on ancestry can be imported via a gedcom to wikitree. There are no doubt help pages on wikitree on how to do that. I note, however, that the process is a bit cumbersome and the imported profiles require a lot of cleanup. I also note that duplicates of profiles that already exist on wikitree are not supposed to be imported. The wikitree import process flags potential duplicates to help avoid importing them.

In the case of existing wikitree profiles, material from your ancestry tree should only be added to those profiles if doing so improves the profile (eg the info added is not redundant of what is there and is supported by reliable sources).

Chase

posted by Chase Ashley
edited by Chase Ashley
Hi Chase,

On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals over the past year. Every English profile we improve helps!

The England Project Leaders are currently doing our six-monthly check-in with all project members.

Are you happy to with your current project team choices? Are there other teams you would like to join or become more active in?

We also welcome any feedback on things you would like to see the project do more of in the future.

I look forward to hearing from you. Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message.

Many thanks!

Elizabeth, England Project Leader

Hi Elizabeth. I'm good with my current situation. Thanks!
posted by Chase Ashley
Oh Wow! Ancestor Explorer!!!! I want to learn more about this wonderful tool. First, I need to understand the following statement: Leger-741 (Loretta Leger) has 4493 unique ancestors and 1792 duplicate ancestors (additional lines of descent from a unique ancestor) within 20 generations. 1792 duplicates, how do I find these and correct the issues? Thank you!
posted by Loretta (Leger) Corbin
Glad you like the app. Re the 1792 duplicates - The duplicates are not duplicate profiles that need to be fixed. As you go back farther in your tree, you will find that you are descended from certain individuals by multiple lines of descent, and the farther back in time you go, the more likely you are to have more lines of descent from that ancestor. If you are descended from Jane Doe by 3 different lines of descent, that means she shows up in your family tree (and in your ahnentafel list) in 3 different places. So, in one sense, she counts as 3 ancestors, but in another sense, she is only 1 unique ancestor and the other 2 are duplicates. The app tells you how many total ancestors you have (ie the number of places filled in your family tree/ahnentafel list), and how many of them are unique and how many are duplicates.
posted by Chase Ashley
Sir,

I just used your app, and I LOVE IT.

I even dl'd the csv of the report it made, so I can look at all the data elements (it doesn't show the WT-id, at least on my phone), and can do so offline, because I have a very limited data plan.

Thank you for writing this !

posted by R. D. Flowers
Thanks, RD. I'm glad you like it!
posted by Chase Ashley
Hello Chase, I see you've attached a wife to Joseph Benson (abt.1640-bef.1705). However, there's no source on the profile to prove this relationship, as required for pre-1700 profiles. Please review this and add a source (or perhaps detach the wife.) Deb ~ data doctor
Not sure how that happened, but it was a mistake. I have deleted her as his wife. Good catch.
posted by Chase Ashley
edited by Chase Ashley
I tried to use Ancestor Explorer to show a line of ancestors to the American Revolution and it says 0. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. I can go right to the page of my ancestor who it says fought in that war. How do I make this work right?
posted by Faith (Horton) Stilts
Hi Faith - The app recognizes Revolutionary War participants based on either (1) the presence on their profile of the 1776 sticker or project template or (2) their inclusion in the NSDAR or NSSAR Patriot Ancestor categories. For info about the 1776 sticker, see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:1776#Sticker. For info about the NSDAR and NSSAR Patriot Ancestor categories, see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:NSDAR_Patriot_Ancestors and https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:NSSAR_Patriot_Ancestors
posted by Chase Ashley
Thank you for answering so quickly. I can find his records on other genealogy websites but am so lost trying on wikitree. He was in the Rhode Island Militia but I can't even find that on wikitree. Is there a link?
posted by Faith (Horton) Stilts
The only information and records on wikitree is what wikitree members like us put there. Wikitree is not a site for doing research. It doesn't have research databases or copies of genealogical source materials like familysearch.org or ancestry.com. It is a site for presenting the results of research done elsewhere.
posted by Chase Ashley
edited by Chase Ashley
Attempting to use Ancestor Explorer. It's been collecting ancestors for more than two hours now. This is the second time I've tried. Am I doing something wrong?
posted by Cheryl Rothwell
The app won't work if your privacy level is set to "Private". You would need to change your privacy level (at least temporarily) to "Private with Public Family Tree". (The app should have given you an error message telling you that, but I must have messed that up when I made my most recent changes to the app. I'll try to fix the error message issue.)
posted by Chase Ashley
Changed privacy level and the list came up almost immediately. Thank you.
posted by Cheryl Rothwell
Just used Ancestor Explorer for the first time. Loved it. Such fun and now I have to work on GEDCOM, sources and Orphans. Thank you so very much.
I will save space and time and state that I have the same issue with the Explorer and have for a couple of months. It wasn't always like this and the pre-1500 profiles are accurate but I am not certified yet for them...but my list is abt 100 ancestors (122 w/21 dupes) and maybe 20 are pre-1500...

Ideas? Advice? Thank You! Becky Elizabeth Simmons-11603 [email address removed]

posted by Becky Simmons
Thanks, Becky. There is a long-standing WikiTree API issue, where, if a profile has a manager that is a project or whose profile is private, the WikiTree API is telling my app that a profile has no manager. However, I notice that there are now some profiles where the WikiTree API is telling my app that the profile has no manager, even where none of the profile's managers is a project or whose profile is private. I have sent an email to Jamie Nelson, who is the apps contact person, to try to find out why that is happening and hopefully to get is resolved.
posted by Chase Ashley
Becky - I have uploaded a new version of the app which should fix the Orphans list problem. Let me know if it works for you. The new version is labelled as (ver 7p.25.Mar.2022) to the right of the Download List button. If you see an earlier version, do a hard refresh. On a Mac, that is done by holding down Command and Shift while pressing R. On a Windows/Linux computer, that is done by holding down Ctrl and pressing F5.
posted by Chase Ashley
Ummm... I do everything on my phone and have never downloaded an app...it is just an option on the home page under wikitree tools... I'm not trying to be difficult but I assumed this was built in the interface as I've never downloaded anything for the site-

Soo??? Id the a problem? Thanks so much for getting back to me :)

posted by Becky Simmons
You don't have to download anything. Just use Ancestor Explorer the way you did before. The problem with the Orphans list has been fixed.
posted by Chase Ashley
When I run Ancestor Explorer with the settings (ID=anderson-23510, gen=20, type-orphan), I get a list of 16 profiles none of which is an orphan. That there are no orphaned ancestors is simply because I have adopted the ones properly identified in earlier runs so those are now exhausted (at least at the current moment). The problem then is that there should be zero profiles listed.

Of the 16 profiles, all but two have a project account as the PM (one of Magna Carta and 13 for Scotland - four of the latter are also PPP). The other two (Carlyle-66 and Marchant-395) have regular WikiTree members as PM.

posted by Thom Anderson
Thanks, Thom. Unfortunately, that's a known problem on the WikiTree side of things. It's on their todo list to fix.
posted by Chase Ashley
edited by Chase Ashley
Thom - I have uploaded a new version of the app which should fix the Orphans list problem. Let me know if it works for you. The new version is labelled as (ver 7p.25.Mar.2022) to the right of the Download List button. If you see an earlier version, do a hard refresh. On a Mac, that is done by holding down Command and Shift while pressing R. On a Windows/Linux computer, that is done by holding down Ctrl and pressing F5.

The revised app lists 18 orphan profiles for you within 20 generations, all of which in fact have no project manager

posted by Chase Ashley
Works great! I did a first run that identified 18 profiles all of which were legitimate orphaned ancestors. I adopted those 18 and did a second run that came up with no entries as expected. Many thanks!
posted by Thom Anderson
Chase, I've been admiring your formatting skills! Nice work on my 7th gr grandfather, Thayer-150. Would you consider creating an instructional video?
posted by Anonymous Reed
Hahaha. Since my method of placing all the <ref> tag definitions at the bottom of the bio is not yet officially approved by WT style guidelines, I'll hold off on that.
posted by Chase Ashley
Chase.. I think we Are Cousins...7th Cousins..

Hasenstab-19.. I don't think that I have as Many Mayflower Ancestors.. Francis zcooke..the Chilton's & 65 Cousins...

posted by L. Hasenstab
edited by L. Hasenstab
Hi Chris,

Regarding Ancestry Explorer, anyway to add a surname column or add the wiki ID so we could sort by surname?

Best Regards, Sherry

posted by Sherry Holston
Hi Sherry,

Not sure I am following you. If the ahnentafel option is not selected, people are by default listed alphabetically by surname. Clicking on the Name column heading reverses the order. If the ahnentafel option is selected, people are by default listed by ahnentafel number, but clicking on the Name column heading will cause them to be listed by surname.

Chase

posted by Chase Ashley
edited by Chase Ashley
Ancestor Explorer is Great! Am telling everyone about it,

Finally I can find what line Sue Smith from 1640 is on and how I descend from her! Maps! Regions! Oh my! Love it! We are 11th cousins 1x removed.

posted by Sherry Holston
edited by Sherry Holston
Thanks, Sherry. Glad you like it.
posted by Chase Ashley
Thanks for this. My mom was Acadian so I tried the app for just Acadian ancestors in NA. Got 233 of them. About half are familiar. I’ve done my mother’s maternal and paternal lines, and her mother’s Pitre line (actually done a cousin decades ago). Amazed about how many on Wikitree!
posted by Paul Berry
Are you responsible for this ancestor explorer tool? As an Acadian, I’ve always known there would be many relationships given the isolation of the communities, and have followed a couple back to five generations. But you, Sir, (or rather your tool) have left me speechless and mind-blown. Not sure yet if I should thank you. I sense a rabbit hole ahead!
posted by Denise Chiasson
Thanks, Denise. I'm glad you like my app!
posted by Chase Ashley
Btw, I just uploaded a new version of the app that allows you to generate a list of ancestors who were Acadians, as indicated by having the Acadian project template on their profile.
posted by Chase Ashley
I love your ancestor finder tool, but it would not work on my husband's id. His wikitree id is O'Brien-8022 and the apostrophe seems to not work.

Can you let me know how to fix this? [email address removed]

posted by Susanne (Orr) O'Brien
Hi Susanne - The problem isn't the apostrophe. It works fine on other O'Brien's, eg O'Brien-679. The problem is that O'Brien-8022 is an Unlisted profile and the app currently doesn't work where the Descendant's profile has a privacy setting of Unlisted or Private, unless it is Private with Public Family Tree. In order to work with Descendant's profiles that have a privacy setting of Unlisted, I would need to add a wikitree login to the app. That's something I have thought about doing from time to time, but haven't done it yet.
posted by Chase Ashley
Thanks for the info. I will get him to become a member so we can run some cool reports for him. Thanks for the response.

Susanne

posted by Susanne (Orr) O'Brien
I like the features in Ancestor Explorer, which I just recently discovered - it helps me visualize how/where my Mom's ancestors shifted location over time in Poland. For many of those ancestors, because of the information in Poznan Project, the place of marriage is often the most readily available location data I have on particular ancestors - any consideration of adding that as an option along with birth and death locations and incorporating in the mapping display?

Also, I noticed that several of the birth or death places for my ancestors (e.g., Soykowo, Bendzitowo, Markowo) default instead on the map placement to the next higher level location (Hohensalza or today's Inowroclaw) - is that because, although I can locate them on google maps, the app isn't finding them in its data?)

Again, thanks for making this available.

Cheryl Smieja

posted by Cheryl Smieja
Thanks, Cheryl. I'm not currently considering adding marriage information, as I think that would complicate things to much (at least for me). If the only solid record you have is a marriage record, I think it is probably still a good idea to include a best guess for place of birth and death.

Re location mapping - The app uses a Google Maps app that that attempts to find the coordinates for the locations. Sometimes it can't find them and places them in a more general location or the wrong location. The app, however, allows you to drag a drop any pin to the correct location and save that location permanently for purposes of the app. It's the "Fix Coordinates" link on the top right of the map page. The process isn't hard, but requires following the instructions.

posted by Chase Ashley
edited by Chase Ashley
HI Chase,

Congratulations on getting published in NEHGR again :)

How awesome!

S

posted by S (Hill) Willson
Thanks, S. I hadn't noticed it had come out yet.
posted by Chase Ashley
Hi Chase,

I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the goals of the England Project during the past six months. We've achieved a huge amount during this period and we couldn't have done it without you and our other project members.

As the England Project Leaders, we are completing our six monthly check-in with all project members.

Are you happy to stay in your current project teams? Which teams are you most active in? Are there other teams you would like to join or become more active in?

Also, do you have any feedback on what the project is doing well and anything we could do better in the future?

Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message. I look forward to hearing from you.

Many thanks!

Amelia, England Project Leader

posted by Amelia Utting
Hi Amelia - I haven't been particularly active on English profiles recently, but I am happy with my current status on the Project.
posted by Chase Ashley
I love the Ancestor Explorer. I was perplexed as to why it doesn't show Joseph Prescott as Revolutionary War, but then I realized that I was the profile manager and I hadn't added the sticker--I'm thinking that's the problem? He was one of my earlier additions to my tree, and was added at a time that I got a little afraid to do much of anything on the site (long story!). I'll have to check what the criteria are to correct this, but I believe he is acknowleged by the DAR/SAR. Again, kudos, I've been having such fun with the app :) since discovering it.
posted by Kristine Thurston
Thanks, Kristine. You are right about the Rev War list. It is based on either (1) the profile having a 1776 sticker or project template on it or (2) the profile being in the NSDAR or NSSAR Patriot Ancestor category (which happens automatically, I think, if you add an NSDAR or NSSAR sticker that is properly filled out).

As a general matter, the criteria by which profiles are included in the lists are listed with the list options in the list options dropdown box of the app.

posted by Chase Ashley
Kudos on Chase's App! It saved me a significant amount of time.

One issue that I had when I searched for my American immigrant ancestors.

I am curious why two non-immigrants show up on my list???

John Dow Jr. Dow-300 1495-00-00 Tilney All Saints Norfolk, England 1544-07-01 Yarmouth, Norfolkshire, ENGLAND

William Selkeden Selkeden-1 1485-00-00 1549-04-10 Upper Beeding, , ENGLAND

Russell

posted by Russell Butler
edited by Russell Butler
Thanks, Russell. The problem is that ENGLAND is capitalized. To determine if a location is in America, the app searches the location for, among other things, the names or abbreviations of US states. ENGLAND contains LA (abbreviation for Louisiana) and ND (abbreviation for North Dakota), so the app is concluding that the location is in the US. Probably best if the location fields don't capitalize entire words, but I'll try to tinker with the app to make it smart enough to distinguish LA and ND from ENGLAND.
posted by Chase Ashley
Russell - I uploaded a new version that should correct the problem with ENGLAND and also addressed the Maine, France issue. I have pre-1500 clearance, so I will go back and fix the two profiles with ENGLAND.
posted by Chase Ashley
Hi Chase!

Thanks for contributing to Puritan Great Migration profiles over the last six months. Every little bit helps, so please keep those edits coming!

Like all WikiTree projects we check in with team members twice per year and it's that time again. Please respond within the next two weeks to let me know:

  1. If you'd like to continue as a PGM project team member
  2. If you're happy with the team you're on (Research and/or Profile Improvement) or if you'd like to make a change
  3. Optionally, what you like since the reboot back in May or what you think could be improved. This could be something about Discord, or Google Groups, or managed profile spreadsheets, or challenge participation or really anything. If you like everything the way it is, you can let me know that too :)

If you'd like to tell me about a particular project or family you're working on, I'd love to hear about that as well.

Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message on WikiTree. I look forward to hearing from you.

Many thanks!

Brad Stauf, PGM membership coordinator

posted by Brad Stauf
1. Yes

2. No change

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posted by Chase Ashley
Chase, is it possible to exclude people that show up as "uncertain" in their line when you do the queries in your Ancestor Explorer?
posted by Cortland Lowe Jr.
Not currently. I think I could add that, but I'm not sure there would be much demand.
posted by Chase Ashley
Chase, The idea is great. Now I just need to interpret/understand the results. Specifically, how do I quickly identify my 39 duplicate ancestors? I have checked the, "Show number of lines to same ancestor...."

I did do one search that showed multiple lines in the list for at least two ancestors - are these some of the duplicate ancestors? Also, what is the definition of GEDCOM Junk? Or put another way, what do I need to clean up?

Thanks for the tool!

posted by Jerry Regan
"Specifically, how do I quickly identify my 39 duplicate ancestors" - Any ancestor with a number in parentheses after their name is in your ancestor tree multiple times. The "duplicates" are any ancestor who shows up more than once in your ancestor tree. If you click on the >< icon after the ancestor's name, you can see all the different lines of descent from that ancestor.

"are these some of the duplicate ancestors?" - Yes, in the sense that they would appear multiple times in your ancestor tree.

GEDCOM Junk is stuff that is automatically included in profiles that are imported as part of a GEDCOM but that are not desirable/useful in a polished profile. Here's a link that talks about what shows up in GEDOM imported profiles and what you can delete. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:GEDCOM-Created_Biographies

posted by Chase Ashley
Ancestor Explorer has a category for Mexican War - Why no category for American Civil War ?
posted by Dave May
There is one. It's listed as U.S. Civil War.
posted by Chase Ashley
I am trying to find ancestors on the Relationship Explorer. The Notables and Witches won't produce any connections. It keeps processing.

I am also interested in finding out how to add Revolutionary War ancestors. I have a few ancestors that were in the War but don't have the badge. Thank you

posted by Dan Deyo
Dan - Thanks for the heads up on this. I think I fixed the problem with Notables and Witches and have uploaded a new version. The new version is labelled as (ver 6p.3.Jul.2021) to the right of the Download List button. If you see an earlier version, do a hard refresh. On a Mac, that is done by holding down Command and Shift while pressing R. On a Windows/Linux computer, that is done by holding down Ctrl and pressing F5.

Re Rev War - The app has to work off of stickers, templates or categories. For the Rev War list, it currently looks for profiles that have the 1776 sticker or project template or the NSDAR or NSSAR Patriot Ancestor category.

posted by Chase Ashley
edited by Chase Ashley
Chase, I just discovered Ancestor Explorer last night, and need to make a change in my Wingate line. I had calculated that my 3rd Ggrandfather's father was Joseph Wingate, b. 1756, but a Genealogists research has proven that to be incorrect...I still have a brick wall at the level of my #3rd Ggfather. I need to remove Joseph Wingate from my tree, and hope I can find the real 4hGgrandfather....We haven't been able to get a YDNA, as my dad had 5 sisters, and 4 daughters...poor guy. What is the best way to remove Joseph, not only from my tree, but also from the Ancestor Explorer app?

Thanks for any help you can offer! Kathy Wingate 754

posted by Kathy Wingate
The app grabs the info on wikitree every time you use it, so if you fix it on wikitree, it will automatically show up as fixed on the app.
posted by Chase Ashley
Any way to narrow down to Gateway ancestors only?
posted by Frankie Johnson
What kind of Gateway ancestors are you looking for? The app already allows you to generate lists of Magna Carta Gateway Ancestors.
posted by Chase Ashley
Hi Chase, I was wondering if it would be possible to add an option Ancestor Explorer to look for US President Direct Ancestors?
posted by M Cole
Do those profiles use a sticker, template or category to designate them as such?
posted by Chase Ashley
The category is "US President Direct Ancestors"
posted by M Cole
I'll add it, but may be a while, as I am busy on some other things.
posted by Chase Ashley
Hi Marina - I just uploaded a new version which has an option for generating a list of ancestors who were US President Direct Ancestors. I note, however, that the sticker now seems to be used for both Presidents and Vice Presidents.
posted by Chase Ashley
Thanks, Chase.

Hmm...Did you use the US Presidents Project box? That does apply to the first four generations of ancestors for both Presidents and Vice Presidents. There is a category that is not limited by generations and is only for Presidents: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:US_President_Direct_Ancestor

posted by M Cole
Hi there! A glitch to report with Ancestor Explorer on the Canadian immigrants list: its capturing my ancestor who was born in the province of East (New ) Jersey and died in New Brunswick, New Jersey. Looks like you just need to qualify the parsing a little more. How to distinguish the province of Jersey from the Bailiwick? Or the province of New Brunswick from the city in NI? I guess that’s why you make the big bucks! ;) profile is Higgins-228

Love the app! Can’t believe that 550 people migrated to Canada just so I could be alive! :)

posted by Bernard Ellis
Hi Bernard - I just uploaded a new version that better distinguishes between Canadian locations and US locations, so your Canadian immigrant list is down from 548 to 546 (getting rid of your two ancestors who died in New Brunswick, NJ).
posted by Chase Ashley
Hi,

When I look into Barthelemy Courtemanche in the Ancestor Explorer it show no Native ancestry. Barthelemy was married to a Metis woman, Josephe Maillet/Maguet. She was descended from Etienne Pirisi Pigarouisnunepiresi Pigarouiche an Ojibway medicine man. His father was Chief Roch Abenaki Manitouabeouich and his mother was Outchibahabanouk Ouehou .Manitouabeouich (born Outchibahanoukouéou). Barthelemy was my 5th ggrandfather on my mom's side. Shortsleeve/Shortsleve/Courtemanche.

posted by Nancy Rapchak
edited by Nancy Rapchak
Hi Nancy - Ancestor Explorer only lists ancestors that are connected to the Descendant on WikiTree. As far as I can tell, Etienne Pirisi Pigarouisnunepiresi Pigarouiche is not connected an ancestor of Joseph Maillet/Maguet on WikiTree. In addition, the Native American list category on Ancestor Explorer only lists those ancestors of the Descendant who were Native Americans, "as indicated by the presence of the Native American sticker or project template on their profile."
posted by Chase Ashley
Regarding Ancestor Explorer, I like it, but when downloading the csv file and opening it up in a spreadsheet, The column where the name should be (where the link is on the wikitree page) gives be a column of 501 errors. I.e. no names and no links Anything you can do to fix this? Thnaks in advance
posted by Marvin Løvenfeldt
I just generated a list of your ancestors for 10 generation, downloaded it, and had no problem opening it in either Google Numbers or my old version of Excel. What spreadsheet app are you using? I believe there is at least one that uses a different format for hyperlinks that is not compatible with the format Numbers and Excel (and my app) use.
posted by Chase Ashley
Thanks for your reply. I use OpenOffice Calc.

Never heard of Google Numbers - don't you mean google sheets? When I import the file into google sheets I get the same error in the "name" column

posted by Marvin Løvenfeldt
Sorry. Meant Apple Numbers. But I just tried Google Sheets and also had no problem. Could you email me the csv file to test out? chasewashley(at)gmail.com
posted by Chase Ashley
edited by Chase Ashley
Chase,

Thanks for the pre-mailing notification on NEHGR, and congratulations on your article. Several ancestors discussed in the issue. I think I had resolved where those Chases fit in my tree. Elizabeth Philbrick is my 9th ggm. My gf left one small clue in his notes which led to discovering those ancestors (and having to assure my aunt in her last lucid days that his research was remarkably good, not to complain about people checking). I still haven't sorted out those county histories, although I was married in Rockingham Co (not for the last time). I had no idea how consistently torn up that publication would be when I signed up for mail copies. Tim

posted by Tim Prince
Hello, Chase. I read about your Ancestor Explorer app in Randy Seaver's Genea-Musings this morning. He commented that the map gave him one inexplicable location in Africa. Oddly, the same thing happened to me just now. The location that showed up in Africa (actually just off the west coast) is a 1764 birth listed as "Maryland or North Carolina." Just FYI. Interesting app, and it could have saved me a lot of time writing up my own ahnentafel list, had I known about it! Thank you!
posted by [Living Kelts]
The app uses Google Maps geocoding API to try to figure out what location is meant by the text in the location field. Sometimes it will can't figure it out and will either put the marker in a location with a similar name or, if it can't figure it out at all, it will put the marker in western Africa at 0 lat, 0 lng.

If the text in the location field is a correct name of a particular location, the solution is to use the app's Fix Coordinates function, which allows you to drag and drop the marker in the correct place, which will then be permanently stored in the apps data base. In other cases, the problem is that the text in the location field is not the correct name of a single location - eg "Maryland or North Carolina" is not a single location and therefore cannot be mapped. In that case, the solution is to correct the location field. I think rather than putting alternative locations (or names) in fields, it is better to make a best guess and discuss in the bio.

posted by Chase Ashley
Thank you! ....................
posted by [Living Kelts]
Wooop Wooop! Congrats on the recent publication in NEHGR!!!!
posted by Jillaine Smith
Hello Sir. I was wondering if you might give me a hand with this ancestor explorer PLEASE.
posted by Anonymous Henderson Jr
Sure. What kind of help are you looking for? When I plug in your wikitree ID (Henderson-2537) as the Descendant and generate a list of all ancestors, the app shows a list of 21 ancestors, which I think is all the ancestors you are connected to on wikitree. Note that the app does not find or connect any new ancestors; it just produces lists of ancestors that your are already connected to. As such, it's most useful for people who are connected to hundreds or thousands of ancestors and want to a full list or various subsets.
posted by Chase Ashley
Hi there, thanks for the great ancestor explorer app. A problem has popped up: The American Revolution list has stopped pulling anyone with the NSSAR Patriot Ancestor sticker. It only shows those with the 1776 sticker. DAR sticker I'm not sure. Thanks in advance for fixing.
posted by Bernard Ellis
Hmmm. It worked in the example I just tried. Can you give me an example of where it didn't work?
posted by Chase Ashley
Here are a couple:

Benjamin Cumings I (1757-1804) Samuel Joslin (1752-1815)

They had both appeared on prior lists. I had 14 patriots; now only showing 8 :(

Thanks for taking another look.

posted by Bernard Ellis
I think I fixed the problem. I uploaded the new version (same url). It's ver 10a.4.Feb.2021, which should appear to the far right of the Download button. If you see an older version number, do a hard refresh.

The new version lists 13 Am Rev ancestors for you. If you think one is missing, let me know which one.

posted by Chase Ashley
Hi Chase,

Thanks, but [Ranstead-2] is now missing. He is likely the only one without the NSSAR Patriot Ancestor Sticker, just the 1776 one. I had added in the 1776 one to everyone who only had NSSAR, to get them to pop up. So perhaps it's now only catching the NSSAR sticker? I also discovered a patriot ancestor who was lacking any stickers at all, so I applied both. Sorry for the shell game on your troubleshooting! I guess I could go take the 1776 off another one of them to test my hypothesis, but my gut is to leave you with an unchanged test set at this point! My total should now be 15 unique ancestors, one with two lineages.

I'll find out how to get John Ranstead into the NSSAR patriot database, but that's obviously not a sustainable solution :)

Thanks! Bernard

posted by Bernard Ellis
P.S. I feel like I'm looking a gift horse in the mouth. Before I ran your app, I was aware of only six patriots I descended from--I don't think I would have ever gotten around to trolling for them. And the one that popped up on my mother's French Canadian side was a huge surprise to dozens of people! Likewise, the four Filles du Roi ancestors I had tracked down, feeling very pleased with myself--turns out there's 53!!! Thanks again for facilitating these revelations with your software.!
posted by Bernard Ellis
edited by Bernard Ellis
Thanks for the bug report. I had broken one thing when I fixed the other. I now think I have it fixed for all. The new version is marked 12p.11.Feb.2021. It shows you with 15 AmRev ancestors, including John Ranstead.
posted by Chase Ashley
From your friends at the Appreciation Team:

Congrats on the Super Star Badge!

posted by SJ Baty
Hi Chase. Great app. My mother seems to be missing from my Ancestor list. I am Vandevis-11 It would be great if I could get statistics for anyone, not just me because I am signed in. Keep up the great work. My mother is still alive. Not sure if that matters.
posted by Dr. Ted Vandevis
edited by Dr. Ted Vandevis
Your mother is missing because her profile is private. The app currently doesn't have an option for you to log in so it can access private info. That's something I've been thinking about adding.
posted by Chase Ashley
Loving the Ancestor Exporer - thanks! Would it be possible to view the lines for the same ancestor in a family tree form?

"Show number of lines to same ancestor (if multiple lines of descent)" DIsplays lists which is great but I love graphics. Annette Boshoff

posted by Annette (Kloppers) Boshoff
edited by Annette (Kloppers) Boshoff
WOW! That's all for now, but your code wouldn't accept four characters.
posted by Raymond Dotson
Ray - What input wouldn't the app take? I'm always interested in hearing about bugs that need fixing.
posted by Chase Ashley
Sorry, Chase. Not a problem with your excellent app.  I tried to send you a quickie "WOW!" but W'Tree frowns upon any submission a mere four characters in length.  Being a coder from the early days of HTML, I appreciate great code work.  Being a struggling devotee of family historical documentation, I appreciate this app you have provided for one and all. A very sincere Thanks! 
posted by Raymond Dotson
Hahaha. I know the problem. There have been a bunch times when I've posted things like "Thanks! [additional characters to satisfy 23 character minimum]"
posted by Chase Ashley
Great app. Would it be possible to supply a URL with the desired input? I've used links to the Relationship Finder in this manner as a shortcut to seeing a relationship trail.

If so, perhaps along with the Map and Download buttons, you could have a button to link to the displayed information or copies the URL to the clipboard.

Good work!

posted by John Kingman
Interesting idea. I'll think about adding that. (Haven't done it before, so would take some learning on my part.) Although I think the time savings would be less than for Relationship Finder, because Relationship Finder runs so quickly that the most time consuming part is inputting the WikiTree ids. Ancestor Explorer is a lot slower (at least if you are generating a list with a lot of ancestors), so saving the inputs doesn't save that much time relative to the overall time the app takes to generate its output.
posted by Chase Ashley
One of the ways I use this with the Relationship finder is to show my relationship trail to a Mayflower ancestor. I have links like this in my profile:

Samuel Fuller, Sr.

posted by John Kingman
Thanks for creating the listmaker. Just wondering why it is flagging Thomas Starey Meredith as gedcom junk?
The app uses WikiTree+ to identify gedcom junk. I'm not sure what WikiTree+ is looking for, but I suspect it is identifying the LDS Baptism section as gedcom junk.
posted by Chase Ashley
Thank you for creating Listmaker. I have a problem. When I generate a list with 20 generations, all ancestors and Include generation and ahnentafel number column. The gen-ahnen column looks fine. But when I download the list it appears as dates. If I formate the column as general, it appears as a number. Am I doing something wrong?
posted by Larry Arms
That's an Excel issue. When you import a csv file, if you don't tell Excel what data type a column of data is, it tries to guess. In this case, it is guessing that some of the gen-ahnen column entries are intended to be dates. The way to avoid that is to specify that the column is text when you open/import the csv file. How you do that will depend on which version of Excel you have.
posted by Chase Ashley
The Listmaker is very cool. I have many ancestors to look at based on the list. But the best thing it did for me was show my Mom who was born in Los Angeles and a great Grandfather from West Virginia as immigrants. That took me back to their profiles, entered 6 years ago, to add United States! I doubt I would have found that without this app. So - Thank you.
Hi, Chase, tried your Ancestor Listmaker, it did not work for me. I have a Mayflower Ancestor 13 Generations ago named THOMAS MATTHEW ROGERS(born ; 15 Jul 1565, Stratford On Avon, Warwickshire, England )

(died: 20 Feb 1611, Stratford On Avon, Warwickshire, England) His son THOMAS ROGERS, born 22 Jul 1582 - ENGLAND,; died 1621 Plymouth, Massachusetts Colony.

posted by Clarence Rogers
Clarence - Your Wikitree profile's privacy setting is set to Private, which means the app can't see who your ancestors are. If you want to use the app, I suggest you change your Privacy setting to "Private with Public Family Tree". You can always change it back to Private later if you want.
posted by Chase Ashley
Chase, Thank you for the Ancestor Listmaker! Can you explain how I would use the ahnentafel number to show the line of descent? When I look at the profile of my ancestor I cannot see the 65 lines and hope that this will break them down for me.

Thanks, Frank Howland

posted by Frank Howland Jr
To see the lines of descent, click the >< icon to the right of the ancestor's name in the list.
posted by Chase Ashley
Hi Chase, thanks for the Ancestor Listmaker and for including Australian immigrants. I like the way you've based it on birth and death locations, and not relying on Categories.
I just wanted to thank you very much for making the Ancestor Listmaker. Even though I am extreemly intrested in learning more, I seem to be a perpetual beginner at this and everything helps. Thanks again!!
posted by Laurie (Noakes) Powell

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