Alice (Audley) Meynell (abt. 1315 - aft. 1358)

Born about 1315 in England

Ancestors

Wife of Ralph Basset — married before 1334 in England

Descendants

Died after 1358 after about age 43 in England

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Biography

Alice de Audley^[1]

Daughter of Nicholas de Audley, Knt., 1st Lord Audley, and his wife Joan Martin.^[2] Nicholas was born 11 November 1292 and died 28 November 1316. Joan died shortly before 27 October 1322.^[3] Joan was the daughter of William Martin, Knt., and his first wife, Eleanor FitzReynold (they married "before 1 Jan. 1281/2").^[4] Nicholas and Joan married "shortly before 6 June 1313".^[3]

Alice married twice:

1. Ralph Basset of Drayton, Staffordshire, son "and heir apparent" of Ralph Basset, 2nd Lord Basset of Drayton, and Joan Grey.^[5]
2. Hugh de Meynell, Knt., son of Hugh de Meynell, Knt., and Joan de la Warde. Alice's husband Ralph had died about 1335. She married Hugh, as his second wife, between 31 July 1337 and 1340.^[5]

Children:

by Ralph Basset^[6]

1. Ralph Basset, K.G., 3rd Lord Basset of Drayton, born at Walsall, Staffordshire 30 November 1334 ("aged 8 in 1343, aged 51 in 1386"), married (1) Joan de Beauchamp, (2) Jeanne of Brittany.^[7] He succeeded his grandfather in 1343 as Lord Basset. "He had livery of his grandfather's lands 6 June 1355".^[8]

by Hugh de Meynell, three sons^[9]

1. Thomas de Meynell
2. John de Meynell
3. Robert de Meynell

one daughter

1. Isabel de Meynell, married (1) Ralph de Shirley, Knt., (2) John de Wodhull, Knt., (3) Gerard Braybrooke, Knt. She had at least one child by each husband and was survived by Gerard (Isabel died 25 April 1393, Gerard died in 1402/3).^[10]

Alice was living in 1358.^[7]

Inquisitions Post Mortem

Richard de Amoundevile, knight

"Writ, after the death of the said Richard, who held by knight’s service of the heir of Ralph son of Ralph son of Ralph Basset of Drayton, a minor in the king’s wardship, [6] June, 24 Edward III." [1350] ^[11]

"Ralph Basset of Drayton, grandfather of the Ralph now a minor in the king’s wardship, who held the manor of the earl of Warwick, gave it to Richard de Amondeville, father of the deceased, and the heirs male of his body, to hold of the said Ralph and his heirs by service of 10l. yearly; and so the deceased held the manor as heir of the aforesaid Richard, of the heir of Ralph son of Ralph son of the aforesaid Ralph Basset of Drayton. The manor should revert to this heir because the deceased died without heir male of his body. The rent of 10l. was assigned in dower to Alesia, late the wife of Ralph Basset, father of the said heir, now married to Hugh de Menyl, and so the said manor is worth nothing to the guardian or heir during her life."

Research Notes

A pedigree in the 1846 volume of The Topographer and Genealogist wrongly says Alice was the daughter of "Ralph Lord Basset of Drayton by Joan, dau. of Thomas Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick."^[12] As this Ralph Basset was born probably about 1335, dates alone make this impossible.

Estimated Birth: about 1315.^[13] The date is based on her parents' marriage in 1313 and that they had two children (Alice and a son, James).^[3] Her brother James was born at Kneesal, Nottinghamshire on 7 January 1313/4.^[14]

Sources

1. ↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry (2011), volume IV, pages 22-30 SHIRLEY.
2. ↑ Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry (2013), volume I, page 566 BROKESBY.
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1 3.2} Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, I:203-204 AUDLEY 10.
4. ↑ Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, IV:59-61 MARTIN 10.
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1} Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry (2011), I:22 SHIRLEY 8.
6. ↑ Disputed children:
   • Maryln Lewis's database also lists a daughter, Isabel, by Ralph Basset (unsourced). In Royal Ancestry (VI:626-627 SHIRLEY 12), Richardson provides details to support Isabel's father as Hugh de Meynhill (footnote 27).
   • A profile for a Maud Basset, born c1330, was detached 9 April 2020, as the sources given on that profile were not reliable and no reliable sources list a daughter named Maud.
7. ↑ ^{7.0 7.1} Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, 624-626 SHIRLEY 11.
8. ↑ Cokayne, Complete Peerage, volume 2, page 3 (accessed 9 April 2020; sign-in required).
9. ↑ Hugh de Meynell also had two sons by his first wife, Joan, whom he married before 1333: Richard and William, Knt. (Richardson, Royal Ancestry, IV:624-626 SHIRLEY 11.)
10. ↑ Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, IV:626-627 SHIRLEY 12.
11. ↑ J. E. E. S. Sharp, E. G. Atkinson, J. J. O'Reilly and G. J. Morris. "Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward III, File 108," in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 9, Edward III, (London: His Majesty's Stationery Office, 1916), 377-387. British History Online, accessed May 15, 2017, [1].
12. ↑ John Gough Nichols (ed.). The Topographer and Genealogist, p. 357, pedigree of Meignell (Meynell), Internet Archive
13. ↑ Marlyn Lewis, entry for Alice de Audley (accessed 29 March 2020). Date not sourced.
14. ↑ Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, I:204-208 AUDLEY 11.

• Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author, 2013. See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.
• Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City: the author, 2011. See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry.
• Cokayne, G.E., Gibbs, V., ed. The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom (The St. Catherine Press, London, 1910-). See also WikiTree's source page for Complete Peerage.
• Cawley, Charles. Entry for Alice Audley (accessed 29 March 2020). "Medieval Lands": A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families © by Charles Cawley, hosted by Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG). See also WikiTree's source page for MedLands.
• Lewis, Marlyn. "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors" (free database online). Useful for leads; see cautions about use on the Magna Carta Project Reliable Sources page.

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Alice (Audley) Meynell is descendant of Magna Carta Surety Baron Richard de Clare in trails badged by the Magna Carta Project to the following Gateway Ancestors:

• Nathaniel Browne (MCA IV:22-30 SHIRLEY): badged July 2021. See the trail HERE.
• Thomas Dudley (MCA II:95-98 DUDLEY): trail badged 10 March 2024. See it HERE.
• Edmund Hawes (MCA II: 380-383 HAWES): badged July 2021. See the trail HERE.
• Lowe Gateways (Vincent, Jane, Henry and Nicholas) (MCA III:57-59 LOWE). See the trail HERE.

See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".

Google snippit view for Magna Carta Ancestry does not include volume IV, pages 22-25, but footnote 14 on page 26, for SHIRLEY 9.i.i., Elizabeth Chaworth (daughter of Nichole Braybrooke and Thomas Chaworth, Knt.), and her husband John le Scrope, Knt., lists the following Gateway Ancestors as their descendants: Richard and William Bernard, Mary Launce, and Anne Mauleverer. Footnotes 15 and 16, for children of Hugh Shirley, Knt., list Gateways Henry, Jane, and Nicholas Lowe (f/n 15) and Edward Carleton, Anne Mauleverer, George Reade, and Richard Saltonstall (f/n 16). Also listed as Gateways in this chapter (SHIRLEY): Elizabeth Bosvile; George, Giles, and Robert Brent; Thomas Bressey; Thomas Dudley; and Edmund Hawes (f/n 17); and Dannett Abney (f/n 18).