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John Awbrey (abt. 1623 - 1692)

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John Awbrey aka Aubrey
Born about in Tredomen, Brecknockshire, Walesmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married after in Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Died in Westmoreland County, Colony of Virginiamap
Profile last modified | Created 31 Dec 2012
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Categories: Prospective Magna Carta Gateway Ancestors | Brecknockshire, Wales | Abercynrig, Wales | Welsh Immigrants to Virginia | Westmoreland County, Virginia | Magna Carta Profiles.

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Biography

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John Awbrey was born in Wales.
John Awbrey (also Aubrey) was born around 1623[1] at Tredomen, now known as Tredomen Court, about 6 miles northeast of Brecon, Wales. This was the location of the home of his father Sir William Awbrey and of his grandfather, Sir Edward Awbrey.
He was the son of Sir William Awbrey and Elizabeth Johnes.[2][1] Sir William had three sons who came to America: Henry, John, and Thomas. They settled in Westmoreland and Rappahannock Counties, Virginia.[3]
John and his wife, née Jane Johnstone,[4] had at least two sons: John and Francis. They also had a daughter, Sarah Awbrey.
John died September 28, 1692 in Westmoreland County, Virginia.[1]

Immigration to Virginia

Henry Awbrey, John's brother, immigrated to Virginia first.[5] John Awbrey came to Virginia in 1665.[6]
On September 3, 1669, Henry Awbry ("Awberry") was granted 480 acres of land adjoining his own land " near the road path Puscaticon Creek" in Rappahannock County, Virginia, for the transportation of 10 persons, one of whom was brother, John "Awberry."[7]

Family

John married c. 1677 in Westmoreland County, Virginia to Jane Johnstone (b 1659 & d after 1699).[1] After John died, his widow, Jane, married, as her 2nd, William Chandler.
John's children with Jane:[1]
  1. John b after 1676[8] [9] at Westmoreland County, Virginia, d Feb 26, 1724/5
  2. Sarah b 1682 Westmoreland County, Virginia, d 1702
  3. Francis b c. 1690[10] Westmoreland County, Virginia

Will of Jane Martin

The will of Jane Martin, Jane Johnstone's mother, is dated February 1676 and is the basis for her daughter's age and marriage date (being underage and unmarried at the time the will was written means she could not have been born before 1656 and that she married John Awbrey after February 1676). John Awbrey is included in the will. Although his exact relationship to the family is not known, he was likely an overseer of the property.[11]
Will of Jane MARTIN, widow, dated 2 Feb. 1676, Copeley Parish, Westmoreland County, Virginia:[12]
Unto my daughter Jane JOHNSTONE my plantation...If it should please God to take from this life my daughter Jane before she is marryed or comes of age or dieing without issue, the estate to fall into the possession of John AWBREY and James Gaynor. Unto my daughter Elizabeth PAIN to the value of fourty shillings...John AWBREY being a liver att my house shall there remain without opposition during the finishing of this crope (sic) or longer as he may find to his conveniencey and not to admitte of any person to dwell upon the plantation without consent from what estate I have willed unto my daughter Jane. (signed) Jane (hF) MARTIN." Proved 16 May 1677.

Welsh Locations

Brecknockshire: (Welsh: Sir Frycheiniog), also known as the County of Brecknock, Breconshire, or the County of Brecon is one of thirteen historic counties of Wales, and a former administrative county.[13]
Brecon Beacons National Park


Historic County of Brecknockshire

Abercynrig, 3 miles southeast of Brecon, was the former seat of the Awbrey family. It was sold in 1621. (see story of Abercynrig and Google map of Abercynrig).

William (father)

Per his profile, Sir William Awbrey born abt 1583 in Tredomen, Breconshire, Wales (died 1631).
Note per Jane Ariciu: Elizabeth Johnes/Jones who married Sir William Awbrey was descended on both sides from the Berkeley family.[14] This line applies to descendants of John Awbrey, son of Sir William Awbrey and Elizabeth Johnes/Jones. This line does not apply to the other Awbrey branches, such as the group that immigrated to Pennsylvania, or the branch that continued to reside in England as Baronets of Llantrithydd. The Virginia Awbreys are the only ones descended from Elizabeth Johnes/Jones.[15]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 John Awbrey, "Janet Ariciu family Bush" (accessed December 1, 2014)
  2. Dolau Cothi, p 18, for Elsbeth Jones m Sir William Aubrey (#Rowland)
  3. from Janet Ariciu's John/Jones Family page
  4. see Janet Ariciu's website; specifically, the page for Jane Johnstone's mother Jane
  5. Ariciu, Janet, Henry Awbrey (accessed February 14, 2015)
  6. Source: #S-859556546
  7. Ariciu, Janet, Henry Awbrey, citing Cavaliers and Pioneers, (Vol 2, page 62), by Nell Marion Nugent (Janet Ariciu Family Bush, accessed November 28, 2014). The 10 transported were Robert Rowles, Jno. Thompson, Wm. Amys, Geo. Barker, Rich. Blake, Ann Thruson, Mary Norman, Tho. Bridge, Jno. Awberry, Charles Owen.
  8. 1670 is an incorrect birth year for John, son of John and Jane (Johnstone) Awbrey who married after 1676
  9. Janet Ariciu has 1680 as birth year and mentions that some researchers say he was 8 years old when his father died, but she has found no proof for this (see this page)
  10. 1661 is an incorrect birth year for Francis, who married Frances Tanner c. 1710 (see his profile for additional discussion)
  11. statement from Janet Ariciu's pages, specifically this one
  12. will transcription by Janet Ariciu, posted on her web page for John Awbrey
  13. from WikiTree's Brecknockshire, Wales category page. See also Wikipedia: Brecknockshire
  14. see profiles for Elizabeth's family tree to see her Berkeley connections
  15. Janet Ariciu's John/Jones Family page
  • Jones, Theophilus. A History of the County of Brecknock (1898), p 447 (accessed April 21, 2015)
  • Rowland, John. Pedigree of the Ancient Family of Dolau Cothi (online courtesy of archive.org; accessed May 5, 2015); see pp 14-18
  • Awbrey family - summary of evidence that Henry, John, and Thomas were the sons of William Awbrey, posted by Jon Awbrey in 2003 (accessed May 19, 2015)
  • S-859556546: Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s (Ancestry Online publication, 2010). Text (APID 1,7486::4058520): Arrival place: Virginia; Year: 1665.
  • S-859556706: Ancestry Family Trees (Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members - 2 links: 1 and 2).

Acknowledgments

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Magna Carta Project

Magna Carta trail
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John Awbrey has Magna Carta connections.
John Awbrey is not listed as a Gateway Ancestor in Magna Carta Ancestry but a review for the Magna Carta project by John Schmeeckle has determined the potential of a provable trail to a Magna Carta Surety Baron, although it appears that sufficient proof does not exist. See Base Camp for more information about Magna Carta trails.
Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, Royal Ancestry series, 2nd edition, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2011), Vol I, pp xxiii-xxix
One potential trail from John Awbrey appears to be through Richard de Neville, whose profile is already in a badged trail to several Surety Barons, including Saher de Quincy, Gilbert de Clare (and his father), the Bigods, and others. ~ Noland-165 13:13, 14 January 2018 (EST)

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Collaboration

On 18 May 2018 at 20:43 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

ah - never mind. I was starting to draft an e-mail to the Magna Carta Project Google Group with the question & realized that NOT including these stickers in the profiles is the better option. I had forgotten that guidelines (see Help:Stickers) limit the number of stickers on profiles not your own (meaning your personal profile, not profiles you manage):
"There should be no more than five Profile Stickers on one profile. Three is better.
"If more than five Profile Stickers are applicable, contributors to the profile need to decide which five represent the most important things to highlight about the person's life."

Adding Gateway Guardian and Trail Tender stickers, which are not about John's life, to this profile would total 3, but a Gateway such as Peyton-434 already has 3.

On 18 May 2018 at 19:46 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

Thanks William - That's the {Magna Carta Project} sticker, which is the alternative to a Magna Carta project box (profiles with the sticker have WikiTree-36, the Magna Carta project account, on the trusted list; profiles with a Magna Carta project box have WikiTree-36 as a manager).

The Gateway Guardian sticker is different & could be added whether the profile had the {Magna Carta Project} sticker or a Magna Carta project box (but it would be located where the {Magna Carta Project} sticker is now - below that sticker when it's present).

While I'm asking... would you see any benefit to having a category added by the Gateway Guardian sticker used on a Gateway's profile? (I can see a possible benefit for logistics, but can't come up with a minimally intrusive name for such a category.)

On 18 May 2018 at 19:24 GMT William Foster Jr wrote:

@Liz I like having sticker in the Magna Carta Project section as in the current version of the profile.

On 18 May 2018 at 18:54 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

No. Stiickers go in the text (instead of at the top of the profil), but the Gateway Guardian stickers currently go only on the active member's profile. They're just in comments on the Gateway's. Although I've been thinking that the Gateway Guardian sticker might be appropriate in the Magna Carta Project section of the Gateway's profile. Opinions?

On 18 May 2018 at 18:13 GMT Stuart Awbrey wrote:

Liz, do you intend to move the sticker for Gateway Guardian to location above Biography?

On 18 May 2018 at 08:44 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

Hi! The Magna Carta project is working toward having a project member as "Guardian" for each Gateway Ancestor, to aid collaboration and to help watch over the profile. Many Guardians also develop and/or watch over a trail in WikiTree from the Gateway to a Surety Baron. (See details about the role of Gateway Guardians and Trail Tenders here, the "long answers" on the project's Glossary page.)
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On 15 Jan 2018 at 19:19 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

fyi - I just updated a Descendant sticker that I have on my profile for him & thought I'd share the coding:

{Descendant |image=Magna Carta Team Base Camp.png |imagetext=Magna Carta Project logo |id=[Awbrey-38|John Awbrey], [:Category:Prospective Magna Carta Gateway Ancestors|Prospective Gateway Ancestor] }

double the braces to display the template & the brackets for clickable links.


I go a bit overboard with my Descendant stickers. On profiles not your own (e.g., the profile about you, not just one you manage), WikiTree says no more than 5 & that 3 is better.

See Template:Descendant for more info.

On 15 Jan 2018 at 19:06 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

oops. Forgot to add the link to the G2G question & ran out of room to add it anyway:

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/510196/

Also, I think I neglected to mention here that only 2 project boxes are allowed on a profile, which is why I'm posting about what project boxes y'all want on the profile.

If you don't think the profile needs to be PPP, then it doesn't require project management & could display no project boxes/have no projects as manager.

See more info at Help:Project_Protection and Help:Project-Managed_Profiles.

Cheers, Liz

On 15 Jan 2018 at 18:54 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

we could replace the UK project box that would require Wales Project to be a manager with a sticker
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John Awbrey was born in Wales.
That would leave just Virginia Project as manager, and that's fine. Or we can bump Magna Carta project up to manager and add the Prospective Gateway project box (the category has already been "upgraded" from Questionable to Prospective)
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Prospective Magna Carta Gateway Ancestor
John Awbrey might be a Magna Carta gateway ancestor, but the lineage is unproven. See text for details.
Join: Magna Carta Project
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(if i did this right, the templates rather than the coding should display... profile managers: the e-mail you received will show the coding)

Cheers, Liz

On 15 Jan 2018 at 18:50 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

As I understand the clarified guidelines (see this G2G post), if a project box is displayed, then the corresponding project must be a profile manager.

The Magna Carta project is not a manager (on the trusted list/has a sticker in the #Magna Carta Project section.

The US Southern Colonies project box was changed to a sticker (not a manager).

The Virginia Project was added as a manager (project box added... replacing Southern Colonies project).

The UK project box, with Wales sub-project, remains. Is this profile appropriate for the Wales Project to manage? Full disclosure: I'm partial to the daffodil, so opted for this project box instead of the new Magna Carta Prospective project box. BUT... I just discovered that there's a Welsh sticker, so ...

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