On 27 June, 1303, Edmund Bacon, who was staying with John de Sancto Johanne in Scotland, had letters of respite of the aid in co Oxford.[1]
In 1311, the king ordered resumed into the king's hands all lands and rents, wardships and marriages granted after 13 March 1309, one of which was the manor of Hatfeld Peverel, which he had previously granted at Berwick on 28 November, to Edmund Bacun, which Alexander Quintyn held for his life, after Alexander's death.[2]
Edmund Bacon was married to Joan de Brewes.[3]
Edmund and Joan had children:
On 22 May 1325, from Bordeaux, Edmund of Woodstock, earl of Kent, sent a request to Hugh le Despenser, jnr, for Edmund Bacon to have the marriage of John de Braose.[4]
Edmund married Margery Pounynges.[3]
Edmund and Margery had children:
Edmund Bakun was the keeper of Walyngford castle on 26 June 9 Edward II [1316].[5]
A writ from Pontefract, dated 12 February 16 Edward II [1323], was sent to Master John Walewayn clerk, escheator south of Trent regarding Hatfeld Peverel, and the resulting Inquisition taken at Hatfeld Peverel Essex, on Mid-Lent Sunday, found that Alexander Quintyn held the manor of Hatfeld Peverel for life, and that Edmund Bacoun was the only person with any right in the manor.[6]
On 3 March 1329, Edmund Bacon was owed 300 marks by Constantine de Mortuo Mari, John de Brewouse, and Wakelin de Hardeshill, which was to be levied in default of payment from their lands and chattels in cos Norfolk and Suffolk.[7]
Edmund Bacon died about the feast of the Annunciation in 10 Edward III which was 25 March 1336.[3]
At an Extent in Essex taken in 27 Edward III, 25 January 1353-24 January 1354, it was found that 1 1/2 knight's fees in Wydeford and Pacchyng were lately held by Edmund Bacon of John, Earl of Kent.[8]
A writ was sent to the escheator on 13 April 35 Edward III [1361], to enquire as to the lands and heir of Edmund Bacon and who had had possession of his lands since his death, after which an Inquisition made at Dorchestre in Oxford on Monday the morrow of St James in the same year, found that Edward had held the manor Spenseresfee with the advowson of the church in Ewelm, and the manor late of Robert Pipard, knight, and his heirs were his daughter Margery, aged 21 years and more, and his great-grandson John de Burghwasch, aged 18.[3]
Sir Robert Bacon-392 was previously attached as a son to Edmond Bacon. The Inquisition Post Mortem of Edmund Bacon, [9] naming his heirs, lists only his two daughters and their children. There is no reference to a son Robert, who would have certainly been the heir.
Accordingly, Robert Bacon-392 has been detached as Edmund Bacon's son.
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Categories: Knights of Edward I | Siege of Stirling Castle
Richardson says
Brewes m1. Huntingfield, m2/1. Beaumont; m2/1. Bacon; m2. Warre, m3. Poynings
Beaumont alive in 1316. Warre dead by 1323.
So, we've got some dates wrong, if he's right.
Interestingly, Richard quotes a erroneous [sic] reference to Joan Beaumont as "his widow Alice" so I wonder if there's yet another wife lost in the history?
The bio bit with citation [5] regarding Bacon being warden of Wallingford castle in 1316 ought to be moved higher, above the content describing later events.
There is neither support in the bio for the asserted 2nd marriage to Elizabeth Warre; nor an obvious era in his lifetime when they could be married. This man's first child Margaret (or Margery I, by first wife Joan Beaumont) is currently shown here as born about 1310. So Edmund is married to Joan by then. (Note: Elizabeth is about five years old at this time, so unlikely she's a prior wife... unless her birthdate off by a generation?) Joan dies about 1332, and they are presumably married when she dies. He soon remarries in 1333 to 2nd (or 3rd?) wife Margery de Poynings, living when her husband dies in 1336.
So, when did he marry Elizabeth Warre, who notionally died 1323? Was she a second wife in 1322, and we're mis-attributing some of his children to Beaumont, when they were perhaps by Warre?
According to the source provided his "heirs were his daughter Margery, aged 21 years and more, and his great-grandson John de Burghwasch, aged 18"
Is the implication he was actually born in like 1260-1270?
Assuming 15-year min generations (which is aggressive even in this era) for his great-grandson to be 18 in 1336 implies Edmund was born ~63 years earlier, i.e. 1273. Assuming 20-year generations, then ~1250.
But since he was getting married and having kids in the 1320-30s... he would have had to be 50-80 years old at the time of these marriages, which seems late.
Are we missing a generation?
I'm new to this family so I may well be missing something obvious, and please don't take offense if I'm insulting your ancestors. ;-)