Charles Ramsden Bailey (1839 - 1910)

Born 1 Sep 1839 in Honley, Yorkshire, England

Ancestors

Husband of Susannah (Hawkins) Bailey — married 7 Nov 1863 in Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah

Descendants

Died 16 Jan 1910 at age 70 in Wellsville, Cache, Utah

Biography

Birth

Birth:

Date: 29 AUG 1837

Place: Mould Greave, Bradford parish, Yorkshire, England^[1][2]

Death

Death:

Date: 16 JAN 1910

Place: Wellsville, Cache, Utah^[3]

Note

Note: Although Charles was illegitimately born "Charles Bailey," he adopted the surname of his mom's second husband. Known on early census records as "Charles Ramsden," he later added the surname "Bailey" to be like his mother and half-sisters.

BIRTH: There was a discrepancy in dates. One family record said it was 1 Sep 1839. Another said it was 31 Aug. 1839. And another said 13 Aug 1839. None of them were right.

Copy of Civil Birth registration sent to me by Charles & Suzanne Brown <sunrisebrown@qwest.net>:

"Charles was born 29 Aug 1837 at "12 night" in Mould Greave, Haworth Parish, Yorkshire, England. His name at birth was "Charles Bailey." Only a mother's name is given, and the record is signed with an X, the mark of his mother, Jane Bailey. The birth was registered in Keighley District, Vol. 23, page 172, entry 35."

Suzanne Brown also wrote (email July 2005), "Charles' age is given correctly for most records until he is 20 or so! For example, he was 3 on the June 1841 census, 13 on the March 1851 census, and 17 on the ship's roster and pioneer roster in 1855. So the discrepancy arose later and was not due to any apparent deception on the part of his parents...his half-sisters were also a year or two older than the birthdates given on their tombstones and in most family records."

BIRTH PLACE: Mould Greave was just a farm, a cluster of cottages, located about a mile from the village of Oxenhopeand a mile from the village of Haworth. Today it is considered a part of Oxenhope. Haworth itself was not a parish but a chapelry in Bradford parish. The place could be given as Mouldgreave (modern) or Mould Greave (as spelled on an 1852 map), Haworth (subdistrict), Keighley (district), Yorkshire (county), England.

AUTOBIOGRAPHY (handwritten): Special Collections Dept., Merrill Library, Utah State University, Logan, Utah

BIOGRAPHY: "Charles Ramsden Bailey: His Life & Families" by Jay L. & Betsy W. Long, Eden Hill, Midvale, Utah (1983)

BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH: "Our Pioneer Heritage" compiled by Kate B. Carter (Salt Lake City: Daughters of Utah Pioneers, 1958), vol. 5 p. 171 and vol.17 p.261, BYU Call No. F 826.D375x and Americana F 826.D375x.

MARRIAGE: Could also be 17 Nov 1863.

BAPTISM: Charles Bailey was baptized into the LDS Church by John Taylor. Microfilm #0027410. Wellsville Ward, Cache Stake. LDS Membership Records. pg 25. He was rebaptised and confirmed on 18 July 1875.

PRIESTHOOD: Ordained an Elder 25 Dec 1856 (source: Microfilm #0027410. Wellsville Ward, Cache Stake. LDS Membership Records. pg 25.)

IMMIGRATION TO US: Charles Ramsden Bailey came to the U.S. on the ship "Charles Buck" which departed Liverpool, England on January 17, 1855 (FHL microfilm #25690, pg 100 of ship's register)

He was traveling with: Jane Ramsden [Bailey written in later], age 55; Mary A. Bailey, age 25; Sarah Bailey, age 20; Charles Ramsden [ditto on the Bailey, written in afterward], age 17 (labourer).

DEATH: Discrepancy. Could also be 19 Jan 1910.

SOURCE: Book, "Charles Ramsden Bailey" by Jay and Betsey Long (1983).

Archibald family group records.

Temple Index Bureau (TIB) on child, Susannah Hawkins Bailey

Archive family group sheet submitted by Margaret B. Smurthwaite of SLC.

Wellsville ward records, GS Film #027,410.

GEDCOM of Charles Ramsden or Bailey and his ancestors sent to me by Suzanne Browne of Davis county, Utah.

Event

Event: Manchester Branch, LDS Church

Type: Member

Date: 10 APR 1853

Place: Manchester Branch

Event: 4th LDS Wagon Co., Richard Ballantyne

Type: Pioneer

Date: 1 JUL 1855

Place: Mormon Grove, , Kansas^[4]

Event: patent to 40 acres

Type: Land acquired

Date: 5 APR 1876

Place: , Cache, Utah^[5]

Event: patent to 80 acres

Type: Land acquired

Date: 18 OCT 1886

Place: , Cache, Utah^[6]

Event: unlawful cohabitation, Edmunds Act

Type: Incarceration

Date: FROM 24 NOV 1888 TO 24 MAR 1889

Place: U.S. Penitentiary, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah

Event: 3rd LDS Wagon Co., William B. Preston

Type: Pioneer

Date: 9/10 Jul 1863

Place: Florence, , Nebraska

Event:

Type: LDS Mission

Date: 1898/1900

Place: , , England

Emigration

Emigration:

Date: 17 JAN 1855

Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Immigration

Immigration:

Date: 14 MAR 1855

Place: New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana

Census

Census:

Date: 26 JUL 1860

Place: Brigham Post Office, Cache, Utah^[7]

Census:

Date: 14 JUL 1870

Place: Wellsville, Cache, Utah^[8]

Census:

Date: 24 JUN 1880

Place: Wellsville, Cache, Utah^[9]

Census:

Date: 25 JUN 1880

Place: Wellsville, Cache, Utah^[10]

Census:

Date: 6/7 Jun 1841

Place: Honley, York, England

Census:

Date: 30/31 Mar 1851

Place: Honley, York, England^[11]

Burial

Burial:

Date: 21 JAN 1910

Place: Wellsville Cem., Cache, Utah^[12][13]

Ancestral File Number

Ancestral File Number: TNNN-WP

Marriage

Husband: Charles Ramsden Bailey

Wife: Susannah Hawkins

Note: Endowment House records, FHL film 183395 (Charles R. Bailey married to Susannah Hawkins and Johanna Adamson on the same day)

Marriage:

Date: 7 NOV 1863

Place: Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah^[14]

Husband: Charles Ramsden

Wife: Ellen Jane Robbins

Child: Charles Ramsden Bailey

Relationship to Father: adopted

Marriage:

Date: 22 JAN 1838

Place: Almondbury, York, England^[15][16]

Sources

1. ↑ Source: #S21 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page Note: Charles wrote in his autobiography that he was born 31 Aug 1839 in Honley, but his tombstone gives a birthdate of 1 Sep 1839. Census records indicate he was 3 years old on 6/7 June 1841, and 13 years old on 30/31 March 1851. According to the 1851 census, he was born in Haworth.
2. ↑ Source: #S22 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page Note: Civil Birth Registration for Charles Ramsden Bailey says Charles was born 29 Aug 1837 at "12 night" in Mould Greave, Haworth Parish, Yorkshire, England. His name at birth was "Charles Bailey." Only a mother's name is given, and the record is signed with an X, the mark of his mother, Jane Bailey. The birth was registered in Keighley District, Vol. 23, page 172, entry 35. This record was found and sent to me July 2005 from Suzanne Brown <sunrisebrown@qwest.net> Suzanne also wrote (email July 2005) "Charles' age is given correctly for most records until he is 20 or so! For example, he was 3 on the June 1841 census, 13 on the March 1851 census, and 17 on the ship's roster and pioneer roster in 1855. So the discrepancy arose later and was not due to any apparent deception on the part of his parents...his half-sisters were also a year or two older than the birthdates given on their tombstones and in most family records."
3. ↑ Source: #S23 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page
4. ↑ Source: #S27 Page: FHL film 298442 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page VALUE FHL film 298442
5. ↑ Source: #S30 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page Note: Document #1012, BLM Serial #UTUTAA001251, Sale-Cash Entry.
6. ↑ Source: #S30 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page Note: Document #3330, BLM Serial #UTUTAA001268, Homestead Entry-Adjoining.
7. ↑ Source: #S28 Page: Series M653 roll 1314 p. 549 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page VALUE Series M653 roll 1314 p. 549 Note: Dwelling 1639, family 1580 (Chas. Baily, 20 years, male, born in Eng.) Living with the family of his brother-in-law Joshua Brown, his two half-sisters, and his mother.
8. ↑ Source: #S29 Page: Series M593 roll 1610 p. 118 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page VALUE Series M593 roll 1610 p. 118 Note: Dwelling 139, family 132 (Charles Bailey [transcribed as Barley], age 30, white male, Farmer, owns $700 in real estate, born in England, parents foreign-born). Living with his wife Joannah and children; Susanna, Anna, and their children live nearby.
9. ↑ Source: #S31 Page: FHL film 1255335 p. 178D TMPLT FIELD Name: Page VALUE FHL film 1255335 p. 178D Note: Dwelling 89, family 99 (Charles Ramsden, white male, age 40, born in England, parents born in England, farms, living with wife Hannah Ramsden and three children). Living next door to his half-sister and her husband, Joshua Brown. CONT Charles was not enumerated at the home of his wife Johanna Bailey on 21 June 1880. Dwelling 5, family 6, p. 173A.
10. ↑ Source: #S31 Page: FHL film 1255336 p. 181B TMPLT FIELD Name: Page VALUE FHL film 1255336 p. 181B Note: Dwelling 140, family 152 (Charles Bailey, white male age 38, born in England, father born in England, mother's birthplace not given, farms, living with wife Susana Bailey and seven children).
11. ↑ Source: #S26 Page: FHL film 87486 p. 117 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page VALUE FHL film 87486 p. 117 Note: Honley township, Thirstin area (Charles Ramsden, son of Charles Ramsden, male age 13, Wool Carder, born in Haworth, Yorkshire).
12. ↑ Source: #S23 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page Note: "CHARLES R. BAILEY SEPT. 1, 1839 JAN. 16, 1910" CONT On a separate marker: "FATHER"
13. ↑ Source: #S24 Page: Utah State Historical Society, burials database TMPLT FIELD Name: Page VALUE Utah State Historical Society, burials database Note: Wellsville Sexton records (Bailey, Charles R.; born 1 Sep 1839 in Honley, England; DIED 16 Jan 1910 in Wellsville, Utah; father Charles Ramsden; mother Jane Robbins; relative Hannah J. Bailey). Buried in plot A-26-4-1.
14. ↑ Source: #S33 Page: FHL film 183395 p. 267 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page VALUE FHL film 183395 p. 267
15. ↑ Source: #S36 Page: FHL film 1542078 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page VALUE FHL film 1542078 Note: Almondbury Parish, marriage registers 1834-1846. Married after banns published.
16. ↑ Source: #S32 Page: Huddersfield District TMPLT FIELD Name: Page VALUE Huddersfield District Note: Copy in possession of Suzanne Kolts Brown, Bountiful, Utah. Data: Text: 1838. Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Almondbury in the County of York CONT CONT [No.] 106 [When Married.] January 22nd [Groom's Name and Surname.] Charles Ramsden [Age.] 27 [Condition.] Bachelor [Rank or Profession.] Delver [Residence at the Time of Marriage.] Honley [Father's Name and Surname.] John Ramsden [Rank or Profession of Father.] Drawer [Bride's Name and Surname.] Jane Bailey [Age.] 35 [Condition.] Widow [Rank or Profession.] - [Residence at the Time of Marriage.] Honley [Father's Name and Surname.] Edward Robins [Rank or Profession of Father.] Whitesmith CONT CONT Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after banns by me, Lewis Jones Vicar CONT CONT This Marriage was solemnized between us, Charles X Ramsden his mark Jane X Bailey her mark CONT In the Presence of us, Benjamin Chappell John W---side

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