John Baker MP
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John Baker MP (1488 - 1558)

Sir John "Knight of Sissinghurst, Kent" Baker MP aka Bloody Baker
Born in Sissinghurst, Kent, Englandmap
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Husband of — married before 1530 [location unknown]
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Died at about age 70 in London, Englandmap
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Biography

European Aristocracy
Sir John Baker was a member of the aristocracy in England.

Sir John Baker (c.1489-1558), of London and Sissinghurst, Kent was the son of Richard Baker of Cranbrook, a notable lawyer of the Inner Temple, and his wife Joan (d. in or aft 1504). Sir John followed his father's footsteps, educated at the Inner Temple where he rose quickly to be a bencher by 1517 and was appointed Governor of the Inn twelve times between 1532 and 1557. He served the city of London as under-Sheriff 1520-6 and recorder 1526-1536, as well as MP 1529 and 1536. He was attorney-gen. for the duchy of Lancaster 1535-6 ,and then attorney-gen 1536-1540. By 18 Jun 1540 he was knighted and was a member of the Privy Council and was chancellor of the Exchequer from 1540 until his death in 1558. He was also Speaker in 1545 and 1547.[1]

He m. (1) c. 1510 Catherine, da. of Richard Sackville of Withyham, Suss. s.p. and (2) by 1530, Elizabeth, da. and h. of Thomas Digneley of Stanford Dingley, Berks. and Middle Aston, Oxon., wid. of George Barrett of Belhus in Aveley, Essex, 2s. John II and Richard 3da.[1]

Sir John Baker left a will on 16 October 1555 with a codicil on 27 September 1558 and 5 December 1558. He died on 23 December 1558 in London, and the following month was bur. at Cranbrook[2]

Children of Sir John Baker and Elizabeth Digneley:

  1. Sir Richard Baker (by 1530–1594)
  2. John Baker (by 1531–1604/6)
  3. Cecily Baker (1535 – 1615) m. Thomas Sackville
  4. Elizabeth Baker (1537 –1583)
  5. Joan Baker (1542–1616)

Research Notes

Circa 1520 Sir John had married Catherine Sackville the daughter of Richard Sackville of Withyham in Sussex. Her brother was married to Margaret, sister of Sir Thomas Bullen, the father of Queen Anne Boleyn. They had two children. It is probable that this relationship had a bearing on Sir John's future career. Catherine died within a few years and circa 1525 Sir John married the widowed Elizabeth (Dingley) Barrett who was the daughter and heiress of Thomas Dyneley, lord of the manor of Wolverton in Hampshire. Sir John and Elizabeth had 5 children.

Many online family trees repeat the claim that John Baker was the father of Alice Baker, wife of William Adam. Baker did not name any such daughter in his will.

Guy Ellis Baker, Esq of Albany, New York was the premier genealogist of the Bakers of the Roxbury Colony. He contended that Thomas Baker of Roxbury was as the son of Thomas Baker (c 1557 – 1625) and Alice Lemon, grandson of Sir Richard Baker (c 1527 - 1594) and Catherine Terrell and great-grandson of Sir John Baker (1488 – 1558) and Elizabeth Dingley.

Y DNA Analysis by Roland Henry Baker, III, Molecular Genetics, U.C. Berkeley. Y-DNA Haplotype R-L664 subgroup 2.D R1a1-CTS4385>L664>(S3478?)>S2894>YP282-C>YP441>A172 Verified from two separate descendants. DNA supports a Kent, England origin.

"Near this Pile, In a vault lie entombed the remains of the Baker's, of Sissinghurst, of this parish. A family considerable for rank and fortune, through a succession of several generations, from the time of their first settlement here in the person of Thomas Baker, Esq., or Richard, his son about the latter end of the reign of King Henry the 7th. The said Richard was father to Sir John Baker, Knight, who was bred to the law, and became eminent as for his abilities in that profession, so for his promotion to divers high posts of trust and honour in the service of the Crown and State, being in several parts of his life Recorder of London, Attorney General, Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Privy Counsellor to King Henry the VIII, Edward the VI, and Queen Mary. He deceased soon after the Accession of Queen Elizabeth, and is with great probability supposed to have been deposited here, with a numerous race of descendants, and allies of whom take a catalogue in the following order on the other side of this tomb, according to the date of their respective interments."[1]


Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 BAKER, John I (c.1489-1558), of London and Sissinghurst, Kent. The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1509-1558, ed. S.T. Bindoff, 1982
  2. Our Royal Titled Noble Commoner Ancestors website, citing Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry.




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Baker-42962 and Baker-148 appear to represent the same person because: based on Wikipedia source, these are the same person, Baker-42962 had been created by going around Pre-1500 rules using a false birth year
posted by Robin Lee
Barker-7051 and Baker-148 appear to represent the same person because: Surname Baker; disconnected incorrect son, premerged.
posted by Kirk Hess
I think there is a possible duplicate in [Barker-7051].

I've added comments and a research note to show why I think this may be the same man (has same nickname and wife of the right name, though the dates and place of birth are very different) If so the parents will also be duplicates.

posted by Helen (Coleman) Ford
Hi

If this is Sir John Baker, as I think, (note wifes name and nickname) and his was born at Cranbrook., Kent in 1488. He should have Sir in the prefix, Bloody Baker in the nickname If this is Sir John the MP then his parents are also duplicates If I'm not correct, then just revert the edits I made. If I am correct, then dates should be changed and merges proposed. His parents birth years would also be incorrect. Richard Baker died 9 August 1504 See reference no.2

posted by Helen (Coleman) Ford
Is Baker-584 his daughter Joan Baker 1542 – 1616 as written in the biography?
posted by A O'Brien
Baker-4830 and Baker-148 appear to represent the same person because: According to sources, the John Baker who married Elizabeth Dinley and served as Chancellor of Exchequer was a son of Richard and Joan Baker. Should we 1) disconnect Jacob and Abigail from Baker-4830 and merge them or 2) move Christopher and narrative from Baker-4830 to Baker-148?
posted by H Husted
Baker-4830 and Baker-148 appear to represent the same person because: The John Baker who married Elizabeth Dinley and served as Chancellor of Exchequer was a son of Richard and Joan Baker. I see two options. 1) disconnect Jacob and Abigail from Baker-4830 and merge them. 2) move Christopher and narrative from Baker-4830 to Baker-148. What do you prefer?
posted by H Husted
Baker-13306 and Baker-4830 appear to represent the same person because: Merging son, Christopher.
posted by Carole Partridge
Please consider the 2011 merge for this profile. Keeping our profiles clean helps all researchers.

Thank you!

posted by Michael Lewis
Please consider the merge the 2011 merge for this profile. Keeping our profiles clean helps all researchers.

Thank you!

posted by Michael Lewis