George Bates (bef. 1844 - abt. 1932)

Born before 27 Oct 1844 in Walsall, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom

Ancestors

Husband of Anne (Broadhurst) Bates — married 24 Sep 1866 in Pensnett, Dudley, Staffordshire, England

Husband of Mary Ellen (Cox) Bates — married 11 Dec 1880 in St. Matthew's, Walsall, England.

Descendants

Died about Jul 1932 after about age 87 in Walsall, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom

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Biography

George Bates was born in Staffordshire, England.

George Bates was born in 1844 ^[1] in Walsall, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom, son of Henry Bates and Mary Ann Goulding He married Anne Broadhurst when he was 22 and they had five children (Annie Louisa, George Edward, Emma Jane, Minnie Helen and William Ernest) when Ann died age only 34, he married Mary Ellen (Cox) Jolly a year after Anne's death when he was 36 and had three more children ( Gertrude Mary, Elsie Mabel and Frank Oswald Bates) .

George was a gig saddler in Walsall the world renowned centre for saddle making. A gig saddle is a small saddle for use with a carriage-harness. It carries terrets (the loops or rings on a horse's harness pad for the driving reins to pass through) and a hook for the bearing-rein.

He was manager of Cox's leather factory probably referring to Whitehouse, Cox & Company, Marsh Street ^[2] in Walsall, and he later owned G & A Bates, a Gig Saddlery ^[3] at 45b Wisemore, Walsall

The table below shows family members living in Emery Street Walsall at the time of the 1881 Census, after Anne Broadhurst had died but showing Herbert Walter Jolly the son of Mary Ellen Cox from her previous marriage to Herbert Jolly

• Household Role Dob Birthplace
• George Bates Head 1845 Walsall, Staffordshire, England
• Mary Bates Wife 1851 Kilsby, Northamptonshire, England
• Annie L Bates Daughter 1868 Walsall, Staffordshire, England
• George E Bates Son Male 1870 Walsall, Staffordshire, England
• Emma J Bates Daughter 1872 Walsall, Staffordshire, England
• Minnie J Bates Daughter 1875 Walsall, Staffordshire, England
• Herbert W Jolly Stepson 1876 Wanstead, Essex, England

This table shows family members living in Rowley Street, Walsall in the 1891 Census, with three new children of Mary Ellen fathered by George Bates.

• Household Role DoB Birthplace
• George Bates Head 1845 Staffordshire, England
• Mary Ellen Bates Wife 1851 Northamptonshire, England
• Eugene (Emma ?) Jane Daughter 1872 Staffordshire, England
• Minnie Helen Daughter1875 Staffordshire, England
• Herbert Walter Jolly Stepson 1876 Essex, England
• Gertrude Mary Daughter 1882 Staffordshire, England
• Elsie Mable Daughter 1884 Staffordshire, England
• Frank Oswald Son 1886 Staffordshire, England

George had little sayings he used for his children according to Dawn Lawrence. 1. Annie Louise, don't you tease her 2. Gertrude Mary, Quite contrary 3. Elsie Mabel, under the table.

His son George Edward Bates emigrated to the USA age 17 in 1886

George lived and died age 86 ^[4] in July 1932 at Rowley Street, Walsall.

Sources

1. ↑ “UK FreeBMD BATES George Birth Registration “District : Walsall Volume : XVII Page: 235.”
2. ↑ Webpage of Whitehouse Cox Established 1875 in Walsall
3. ↑ Bates G & A in leather goods manufacturers, and allied industries listed in the 1935 Walsall Red Book: The Story of Walsall Industry
4. ↑ “UK FreeBMD BATES George”Accessed January 17, 2019. Death Registration “District : W.Bromwich, Quarter: Dec 1932, Volumer 6b Page: 742”

• "Family Tree," database, states Baptism 1845 FamilySearch [1] : modified 13 December 2018, 07:23), entry for George Bates PID [2] ; contributed by various users.
• England Births and Christenings, 27 Oct 1844 1538-1975 Birth Registration Family Search

Census

• "England and Wales Census, 1881," George Bates, Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England; from "1881 England, Scotland and Wales Census," citing p. 30, Piece/Folio 2827/120, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey; FHL microfilm 101,774,807. Census 1881
• Census 1891 "England and Wales Census, 1891," George Bates, Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England; citing PRO RG 12, Staffordshire county, subdistrict, The National Archives of the UK, Kew, Census 1891

Unsourced User Trees

• Record at Genealogy.com Dawn (Bates) Lawrence

Research Notes

• The Unsourced Family Tree birth record stating 1845 Family Search conflicts with GRO record and Christening record. Birth date 1844 seems more likely. Link to Frank Geoffrey Edis Bates on this record is incorrect and should be Frank Oswald Bates
• Was Mary Ellen Cox the daughter of the owner of Whitehouse, Cox & Company in Marsh Street, Walsall ? What happened to her first husband Herbert Jolly ?