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Thérèse Baud (abt. 1718 - abt. 1804)

Thérèse Baud aka Baude, Bashault, Vienneau, Bode
Born about in Saint-Martin de Bollène, Comtat-Venaissinmap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 23 Dec 1738 in Saint-Martin de Bollène, Comtat Venaissinmap
Descendants descendants
Mother of , , , , , , , , , and
Died about at about age 86 in Memramcook, Colony of Nouveau Brunswickmap [uncertain]
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Biography

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Thérèse Baud migrated from France to New France.
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Thérèse Baude variations: Baud, Bode, one instance of Bashault Thérèse was born about 1718. Her parents are unknown, not being named on her marriage record, and no baptism has been found for her. She was married in Bollène in Comtat-Venaissin (then part of the Papal states)[1]

Note: the name Thérèse Bashault appears on the baptism of Jean Baptiste in 1754 only, nowhere else. Clerical error? Mothers are never present at baptisms, and the father could not sign.

Marriage
She married Michel Vianot on 23 December 1738 in Bollène (St-Martin), France. [1][2][3] No parents are named on the record.

Known children The first 4 are born in France, the family migrated to Canada, New France around 1750, where subsequent children are born.

  1. Marie Thérèse Vienneau (1740-1817), bapt 25-03-1740 Bollène (St-Martin); Marie Vianeau married Pierre Pinet 30 Oct 1758 St-Charles de Bellechasse
  2. Jean Joseph Vienneau (1743-abt.1852), bapt. 04-12-1743; Bollène (St-Martin)
  3. Jean Jacques Vienneau (1746-1748), né & bapt. 23-05-1746, d/s 26-09-1748 Bollène (St-Martin)
  4. Élisabeth Catherine Vienneau (1749-bef.1806), bapt. 15-02-1749 Bollène (St-Martin)
  5. Joseph Vienneau (1751-bef.1755), b 13 Nov 1751 bapt. 14 Québec (ND); (presumably died before December 1755 when a brother is given the same name; or else he's the one who married Geneviève Lamontagne in 1776; unable to determine due to lack of records.)
  6. Jean-Baptiste Vienneau (1754-1808), b 10 Jan 1754 bapt. 11 Québec
  7. Joseph Vienneau (1755-bef.1827), b & bapt. 5 Dec 1755 Québec (ND); Joseph Vienneau married Geneviève Lamontagne 8 July 1776 Québec (ND)
  8. Therese Vienneau (1758-), b 18 Aug 1758 bapt. 20 St-Charles de Bellechasse
  9. Pierre Vienneau (1760-1761), b 11 Oct 1760 bapt. 12 St-Charles de Bellechasse; d 3 Aug 1761 buried 4th St-Charles de Bellechasse @ 8 months
  10. François Vienneau (1762-1844), b 3 Jul 1762 bapt. 4th St-Charles de Bellechasse
  11. Michel Vienneau (1765-1769), b 28 Jul 1765 bapt. 29 St-Charles de Bellechasse; Michel Vianau d 13 June 1769 buried 14th Québec (ND) @ 3 y 10 m

The family move to Acadie region, New Brunswick after June 1769.

She passed away on 3 March 1804 in Memramcook, New Brunswick.[2][4]

Another possible date of death is 1785. [5]

Research Notes

At the baptism of her son Jean Jacques Vianot in 1746, his godmother was listed as Marie Anne Baude (wife of Louis Mounet). Marie Anne Baude could be a potential sister (or other relative) of Thérèse. Fremmerlid-1 15:47, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Could not find record for burial in Ancestry or in Index des Registres des paroisses acadiennes.Cormier-1939 02:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

She was NOT the daughter of Pierre Bauvé and Marie Du Berry, who were from Paris, therefore detaching her. See G2G discussion on the matter.

Fichier origine

BAUD, Thérèse 460069
Date de naissance: Vers 1718
Lieu d'origine: Bollène (Vaucluse) 84019
Lieu actuel: Bollène
Première mention au pays: 1750
Occupation à l'arrivée: Migrante arrivée avec sa famille
Date de mariage: 23-12-1738
Lieu du mariage: Bollène (St-Martin)
Conjoint: Michel Vianot
Décès ou inhumation: Memramcook, N.B., 03-03-1804
Remarques: Les actes suivants sont à Bollène (St-Martin). En 1738, elle est domiciliée à Bollène. Quatre enfants sont nés et baptisés: Marie-Thérèse (pionnière), 25-03-1740; Jean-Joseph (pionnier), 04-12-1743; Jean-Jacques, 23-05-1746, d/s 26-09-1748 et Élizabeth-Catherine, 15-02-1749[6][1]

Sources

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 "Quebec, Quebec Federation of Genealogical Societies, Family Origins, 1621-1865," database, record id: 460069 Thérèse Baud accessed April 2020
    No names given for parents
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 Birth, Death, Marriage, Parents, Siblings Programme de Recherche en Démographie Historique, Université de Montréal (paid subscription) Individual # 156673 PRDH
    Name: Thérèse Beaude. No date given for birth. Location of birth and baptism: St-Martin, v. Bollene, ev. St-Paul-Trois-Chateaux, Comtat-Venaissin (ar. Avignon, Vaucluse). No names for parents. Married with Michel Vienneau on 23 December 1738 in France. Died on 3 March 1804. SOURCE: LE FICHIER ORIGINE
  3. ↑ "Actes paroissiaux et d'état civil de Bollène", database with images, Archives Départementales de Vaucluse. (https://v-earchives.vaucluse.fr/series/etat_civil/bollene/LC4789 : Accessed 29 Jun 2021). Actes paroissiaux et d'état civil de Bollène » Actes d'Ancien Régime » Paroisse catholique de Bollène » Actes de catholicité » Mariages (1594-1610 ; 1615-1792) » 1738-1764 - Image 1 / 138. Scanned image uploaded to WikiTree.
  4. ↑ http://www.genealogie-acadienne.net/?action=indiDetails&I=2767
  5. ↑ Family website at Pinet blogspot
  6. ↑ DGFC, vol. 7, p. 463

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Marriage - Michel Vienneau and Therese Baude (1738)
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Gray-8215 Norm Gray
Baude-67 and Baud-48 appear to represent the same person because: Please, can we be a little less pedantic about the merge as these profiles obviously refer to one individual? Where there's a difference in dates, provide a reliable source. With the spelling of the family name, what is the name used by all contemporary descendants?

Details of the spouse, children, and confirmed family prove beyond reasonable doubt that this is the same person.

posted by Norm Gray
Fremmerlid-1 Valerie (Fremmerlid) Penner
Hi Norm, it's been two months since the merge proposal. I believe anyone can complete the merge now, as long as the current spelling of the projected-protected profile ("Baud") is kept. I'm in favour of keeping the spelling as Baud, because that is how it is spelled in Thérèse's earliest known record (her marriage). You will likely find that contemporary descendants do not all spell the name the same, but according to forebears.io, there are more global instances of the surname "Baud" than there are of "Baude".
posted by Valerie (Fremmerlid) Penner
edited by Valerie (Fremmerlid) Penner
Cormier-1939 Gisèle Cormier
Baud-48 and Baude-67 are not ready to be merged because: Discussion about name to be merged into.
posted on Baude-67 (merged) by Gisèle Cormier
Fremmerlid-1 Valerie (Fremmerlid) Penner
Hi Gisèle, there doesn't seem to be disagreement with keeping the LNAB as "Baud". I think the profiles are ready to be merged and the temporary project protection on Baud-48 can then be removed.
posted on Baude-67 (merged) by Valerie (Fremmerlid) Penner
Cormier-1939 Gisèle Cormier
Thanks for the reminder, Valerie. Merge completed into Baud.
posted by Gisèle Cormier
Cormier-1939 Gisèle Cormier
Baude-67 and Baud-48 appear to represent the same person because: Although the birth dates are not the same (1718 is the correct date per Fichier Origine), the spouse and the son François Vienneau are the same.
posted by Gisèle Cormier
Gray-8215 Norm Gray
I'm prepared to go with the consensus opinion for a merge, provided everyone is absolutely sure that a merge represents the one person and the spelling of the family name is that used by the majority of descendants to this day. According to hsitorians, the name is "Recorded in over eighty different spellings throughout Europe, this surname is of pre 7th century Olde French origins. It originates from the word "baud" meaning "joyful", was given probably as a nickname for a "lusty and swaggering youth", end quote. Let's not adulterate the spelling of the family name to other than that used by all genetic relatives today.
posted by Norm Gray
Cormier-1939 Gisèle Cormier
Does anyone know why the match with Baude-67 was rejected? Although the birth dates are not the same (1718 is the correct date per Fichier Origine), the spouse and the son François Vienneau are the same. The rejected match needs to be proposed again and merged into Baud-48 which is the correct name.

Québécois Project, what is the preferred spelling for her husband: Viano (baptism record) or Vianot (marriage record & Fichier origine)? Upcoming merge for him also.

posted by Gisèle Cormier
Gray-8215 Norm Gray
Perhaps it would be prudent to ask profile manager, Jeffrey Balboni, Gisèle. It would seem that Baude-67 was only set-up in November 2021 without checking that two other profiles existed at that time. We should also ensure that a merge is to the lowest profile number, Baud-48.
posted by Norm Gray
Fremmerlid-1 Valerie (Fremmerlid) Penner
Baude-17 and Baud-48 appear to represent the same person because: Baude-17 is a gedcom upload not currently attached to any other profiles. Baude-17 Thérèse Baude (1715 - 1804) most likely intended to represent the same person as Baud-48 Thérèse Baud (abt. 1718 - abt. 1804).
posted by Valerie (Fremmerlid) Penner
Fremmerlid-1 Valerie (Fremmerlid) Penner
Baude-51 and Baud-48 appear to represent the same person because: Baude-51 is a gedcom upload not currently attached to any other profiles. Baude-51 Therese (Baude) Vienneau (1705 - abt. 1804) most likely intended to represent the same person as Baud-48 Thérèse Baud (abt. 1718 - abt. 1804) who married Michel Vienneau.
posted by Valerie (Fremmerlid) Penner
Liard-1 Danielle Liard
This lady's name on her marriage record is clearly written Baud, have entered the link to the source, marriage is in Latin. No parents are named for her nor her spouse. Please correct the name.

Meanwhile, she needs to be detached from those parents, there is no evidence to support the link at all, Pierre Bauve came from Paris, Île-de-France, while Thérèse Baud and her husband came from Provence. You can almost not get any further apart than those two locations in France. https://french-genealogy.typepad.com/.a/6a01156f3ad8b4970c01bb09b1ead2970d-pi map of France, old style.

posted on Bashault-Bauve-1 (merged) by Danielle Liard
Liard-1 Danielle Liard
this lady's last name needs some correction/research, she and her husband did not migrate directly to Acadian peninsula from all appearances, they are found in Québec city and then St-Charles de Bellechasse, first baptism of their children found was in 1751 in Québec. Her name is pretty much always Baud/Bod/Bode (same pronunciation), there are 9 baptisms of their children found here, and a funeral of a 3 year 10 month old son Michel in June 1769 in Québec city.

I think her inclusion as an Acadian is an error, Acadie as a separate entity was no more by 1769.  :(

posted on Bashault-Bauve-1 (merged) by Danielle Liard
Bourque-573 Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
Sgree. Removed Acadian box and manager. Edit away on the name!
posted on Bashault-Bauve-1 (merged) by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
Muise-22 Marcel Muise
Bauve-1 and Bashault-Bauve-1 appear to represent the same person because: Same person
posted on Bashault-Bauve-1 (merged) by Marcel Muise

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