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Johanna (Beekman) Marselis (bef. 1698)

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Johanna Marselis formerly Beekman
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Wife of — married in Albany, Albany, New Yorkmap
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Died [date unknown] [location unknown]
Profile last modified | Created 21 Oct 2018
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Johanna (Beekman) Marselis was a New Netherland Descendant 1674-1776.
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Biography

Johanna was the daughter of Johannes Beekman and Eva Vinhagel.

She was baptized on 20 November 1698 in the Reformed Dutch Church of Abany, New York.[1][2]

Johanna married Johannes Marselis on 9 June 1723 in the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany, New York.[3][4]

Church Records

Baptism
  • 1698. Nov. 20. Johanna, of Johannes Beekman and Eva Vinhagel. Wit.: Jan Vinhagel, Ariaantje Wendell.
Marriage
  • 1723. June 9. With L. Johannes Marselis and Johanna Beekman.

Sources

  1. "New York Births and Christenings, 1640-1962," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V2HV-JL7 : 11 February 2018), Johanna Beekman, 20 Nov 1698; citing FIRST DUTCH REFORMED CHURCH,ALBANY,ALBANY,NEW YORK, reference ; FHL microfilm 908,989.
  2. Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany, New York, 1683–1809, Excerpted from Year Books of the Holland Society of New York. Part 1, page 78. 1698. Nov. 20. Johanna, of Johannes Beekman and Eva Vinhagel. Wit.: Jan Vinhagel, Ariaantje Wendell.
  3. "New York Marriages, 1686-1980," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F637-2XH : 10 February 2018), Johannes Marselis and Johanna Beekman, 09 Jun 1723; citing reference ; FHL microfilm 908,989.
  4. Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Albany, New York, 1683–1809, Excerpted from Year Books of the Holland Society of New York. Part 2, page 16: 1723. June 9. With L. Johannes Marselis and Johanna Beekman.


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On 12 Feb 2019 at 20:34 GMT Tanya Lowry wrote:

I attached the existing johannes Beeckman (Beekman) and Eva Vinhagel (Vinhagen) as parents to this Johanna Marselis (formerly Beekman) initially I just wanted to know if they were her parents. Things got side tracked to other stuff. So, I am presuming from the info in Eva and Johannes profiles that they are Johanna's parents. Johanne Marselis has his parents already. So not concerned with that either. I am also not concerned with the sparcity of family search info, I chose to add that source for those who like to go down to see the indexed bach or image collection on microfilm at the LDS Church. Thanks for the explanation of the abbreviations. Excuse my typos.

On 12 Feb 2019 at 04:12 GMT Ellen Smith wrote:

The child johanna, baptized on 20 Nov 1698, was clearly a daughter of Johannes Beekman and Eva Vinhagel. That's what we get from the church record "Nov. 20. Johanna, of Johannes Beekman and Eva Vinhagel. Wit.: Jan Vinhagel, Ariaantje Wendell." (That's not so obvious from Family Search's lite version of the record. This is why we need to use faithful transcripts of the original record.)

What we can't be so sure about is which Johannes Marselis is the one Johanna married, since there was one baptized in 1695 and a cousin of the same name baptized in 1698. That's what my answer to you was about.

That's an "of" in the marriage record you cited, not an "or." (1692. Oct. 26. Johannes Beekman, widr. of Maghtelt Schermerhoorn, and Eva Vinhagel, y.d., both of N.A.). Johannes was the widr. (i.e., widower) of Maghtelt Schermerhorn. He married Eva Vinhagel, who was not previously married (that's what y.d. means). "N.A." means New Albany (you can get that from the list of abbreviations for that part the Albany records). I don't know why they called it "New" Albany, since it's the place we call plain old "Albany."

On 11 Feb 2019 at 19:41 GMT Tanya Lowry wrote:

Then on the wonderful Source provided is this...Oct. 26. Johannes Beekman, widr. or Maghtelt Schermerhoorn, and Eva Vinhagel, yd, both or NA I think...not sure, it means he remarried a Schermerhorn? Is that correct?

On 11 Feb 2019 at 19:31 GMT Tanya Lowry wrote:

Ellen, Not what i was asking at all...I asked...are these the correct parents here on wikitree...Johannes Beekman and Eva Vinhagel...if not...then we don't attach them, and I create the parents, if yes, then attach...where I find my Sources is not prudent in this querie and I am uite of aware of the follys of FamilySearch, Ancestry and well every single thing out there really falls under scrutiny. All I needed was a Yea or a Nay.  :-) And then...theres the New_Netherland Project thing...SO, are they or are they Not the correct persons...shall I do more searching and set up parents "IF" I find anything to prove parentage?



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