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Hans Conrad Beter (1639 - 1717)

Hans Conrad Beter
Born in Elgg, Switzerlandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 23 Apr 1667 in Lauterecken, Pfalzmap
Husband of — married 5 May 1674 in Lautereckenmap
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Died in Lauterecken, Pfalzmap
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Biography of Hanß Conrad BETER of 1639

Hanß Conrad Beter (aka Peter or Petter) was born or christened 27 OCT 1639 in Elgg, Switzerland[1][2]

Hanß Conrad Beter is the son of Hanns Jacob Beter and his wife Regina Schupli.

Hanß Conrad Beter died 24 JAN 1717 in Lauterecken, Pfalz[3]

Hanß Conrad Beter married first Magdalena Catharina Haas 23 APR 1667 in Lauterecken, Pfalz[4] She died shortly after the 1671 birth of a son.

Hanß Conrad Beter married second Maria Margaretha Lauer 5 MAY 1674 in Lauterecken[5][6]

Children

Per IGI (Batch #7412201), after 1671 birth of his son, there are other children born to Conrad, but with a wife, MARGARETHA.

  1. Maria Catharina Beter, christened 28 March 1668, Lauterecken.[7]
  2. Anna Elisabetha Beter, christened 6 Oct 1669 Lauterecken.[8]
  3. Hans Jacob Beter, born 11, baptized 13 Sep 1671 Lauterecken.[9]
  4. Johann Caspar Beter, christened 5 Dec 1675 Lauterecken[10]
  5. More?


Research Notes[11]

"About the Peter/Beter of Switzerland:

"Conrad Peter/Beter died 24 Jan 1717 age of 78y in Lauterecken. This leads to an estimated birth year of 1638/39. On his [Lauterecken] marriage to Magdalena Catharina Haas, his origin is named "Elek, Graffschaft Kühburg, Zürcher Gebiet". With the help of an Swiss genealogist I learned that the correct name should be Elgg. This leads to LDS-Film#996838 from where I got my Elgg data. Unfortunately there were many Peter in the church books, and I found 3 Conrad Peter:

  1. Hans Conradt Peter * 17 Dec 1637 in Elgg son of Jörg P. and Verena Stadelman. But he lived 1663 still in Schneit.
  2. Hans Conradt Petter * 1646 Rappenstein, son of Jacob P. and Eva Wurmanin. (Did not found him later in the church books)
  3. and the one above: His christening record reads:
1639 Hs Jaggli Petter M. Conradt Mötte
Conradt Dischmacher von Waltenstein 27 8br
Rägel Schupli Adelheitt Büchi

"So Conrad's godfather is M[eister] Conradt Mötteli, a Dischmacher. Tischmacher means Tischler [carpenter], the occupation Conrad Peter had in Lauterecken. And there is a Haushaltungsrodel (name list of all parish members) of 1659 and one of 1663 (on LDS Film#2060980), where there is a remark about Conrad: "ist in der Pfalz" (is in Palatine).

"His uncle Andreas Beter * 22 Feb 1620 [has] below his baptism entry:

1620 Hanns Peter Andares Andares Peter 22
Hornung Barbel Furer 2 April 1651 Elsbeth Cappeler will hier weg

"[therefore,] seems to emigrate 1651, see remark: "will hier weg" (wants to leave).

"His daughter Elisabetha should have been the godmother of Conrad Beter's son Hans Jacob *11 Sep 1671.

"Andreas Beter is mentioned as carpenter of Lautern [Kaiserslautern (per Peter Haas, but perhaps Lauterecken?)]:

1671 Mittwochs den 13. Sept. ein Söhnlein getaufft so Montags den 11. gebohren und Hanß Jacob genannt worden deßen Eltern Hanß Conrad Better der Schreiner allhier, undt Magdalena Catharina Gevattern Hanß Nickel Heurl der Müller und Kirchen Censor allhier und Hanß Jacob Fickeÿsen, Neben ihnen sollte stehen Elisabetha Andres Betters Bürgers und Schreiner Zu Lautern (Parentis Patrini) Tochter; weil Sie aber ihres Calvinisch, theils nicht egenwertig war, hatt ihr Stell der ... Johanna Catharina, der Mutter ihr Schwester.

"So I think he is the correct Conrad Peter."

"The Swiss Genealogical Society has documents about the emigration of Swiss residents to Germany that may shed light on Conrad's emigration. Hans Conrad Peter is not listed as part of this [particular] emigration, but it sheds some light on the time period:

Die Tessiner und Bündener Bauhandwerker als die weitaus größte Gruppe. Die „Muratori“ waren neuzeitlich geschulte Handwerker und arbeiteten billigerals die einheimischen Handwerker.

Roughly translated (through Babelfish):

The Tessiner and Buendener building craftsman as the by far largest group. The "Muratori" was modern trained craftsmen and worked more cheaply thanthe native craftsmen.[12]

Also (from same source):

Einwanderer aus verschiedenen Tälern der Lombardei, meist Bauhandwerker. Sie wurden „Caementarii, murarii itali, magistri comacini„ genannt.

Roughly translated: Immigrant from different valleys of the Lombardei, usually building craftsmen. They were called "Caementarii, murarii itali,magistri comacini".

Also: (and this is from, I believe, officials in Trier to the west of Lauterecken:)

Eine gewisse Auslese oder Einschränkung bei der Aufnahme oder Zulassung von Fremden war von Amtswegen garantiert, weil ein Neubürger 200 Guldenvorlegen mußte, oder wenn er sich in seinem Berufe wohl ernähren konnte, nur 100 Gulden. Auch durfte kein Seelsorger Fremde, so sich ins Landsetzen wollten, ohne einen Verwilligungsschein der vorgesetzten Amtsverwaltung mit Eingesessenen ehelich zusammengeben.5 Die Meldepflicht derFremden war durch Nachtzettel, unter Androhung einer Strafe von 2 Goldgulden, und die Quartalsberichte der kurtrierischen Ämter sichergestellt.

Roughly translated (same source):

A certain selection or restriction with the admission or a permission of strangers were guaranteed of official routines, because a new citizen had to submit 200 guldens, or if he could probably nourish himself into its occupations, only 100 guldens. Also no Seelsorger foreigner was allowed to thus set itself, into the country wanted, without a consenting light of the set forward office administration with residents conjugally forzusammengeben.5 the obligation to register of the strangers was by night notes, under menace of a punishment guaranteed by 2 gold guldens, and the quarter reports of the kurtrierischen offices.

(end email from Peter Haas)

Sources

  1. Peter Haas (Peter-Haas AT gmx.at), Vienna, Austria; Contact made by Jillaine Smith with this WICKART researcher in October 2004, who shared research of microfilmed original records: FHL #2060980, Parish member list 1659, 1663 Email of 1 Nov 2004
  2. Peter Haas, citing FHL #996838, Christening record 1639
  3. Peter Haas, citing FHL #2060980, Parish member list 1659, 1663; email of 2 Nov 2004
  4. "Deutschland Heiraten, 1558-1929," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NC1R-MX9 : accessed 12 April 2016), Conrad Beter and Magdalena Catharina Haassen, 23 Apr 1667; citing Lauterecken, Bayern, Germany; FHL microfilm 193,018.
  5. Peter Haas (Peter-Haas AT gmx.at), Vienna, Austria; Contact made by Jillaine Smith with this WICKART researcher in October 2004, who shared research of microfilmed original records: FHL #2060980, Parish member list 1659, 1663; Email of 2 Nov 2004
  6. "Deutschland Heiraten, 1558-1929," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NC1R-MN7 : accessed 12 April 2016), Conrad Better and Maria Margareta Lauren, 05 May 1674; citing Lauterecken, Bayern, Germany; FHL microfilm 193,018.
  7. "Deutschland Geburten und Taufen, 1558-1898," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NCPB-NLQ : accessed 12 April 2016), Maria Catharina Beter, 29 Mar 1668; citing Lauterecken, Bayern, Germany; FHL microfilm 193,018.
  8. "Deutschland Geburten und Taufen, 1558-1898," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5B7-2FJ : accessed 12 April 2016), Anna Elisabetha Better, 06 Oct 1669; citing Lauterecken, Bayern, Germany; FHL microfilm 193,018.
  9. "Deutschland Geburten und Taufen, 1558-1898," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NCPB-JHC : accessed 12 April 2016), Hanss Jacob Better, 13 Sep 1671; citing Lauterecken, Bayern, Germany; FHL microfilm 193,018.
  10. "Deutschland Geburten und Taufen, 1558-1898," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NCPB-VN5 : accessed 12 April 2016), Johann Caspar Better, 05 Dec 1675; citing Lauterecken, Bayern, Germany; FHL microfilm 193,018.
  11. November 2004 correspondence from Peter Haas to Jillaine Smith
  12. See http://www.swissgenealogie.ch/emigra-m.htm


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Thank you Jillaine Smith! Great work on our eighth great grandfather! It will be interesting to see if he has any Lombardy ancestors, as that would make us part Italian!~Sharon
posted by Sharon (Troy) Centanne

Hans Conrad is 22 degrees from Mary McCauley, 30 degrees from B. W. J. Molier and 24 degrees from Henry VIII of England on our single family tree. Login to find your connection.

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