Darlisa Black
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Darlisa Black

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Darlisa M. Black aka Singleton
Born 1950s.
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Darlisa Black is a descendant of Mayflower Passenger Mary Chilton and father James Chilton.
Darlisa Black is a descendant of Mayflower Passenger Edward Fuller.
Darlisa Black is a member of the Spencer Name Study Project.

Still alive and kicking! will work on this, but all the others need to be done. I am currently nearly 63, getting to that point where I am second oldest in our immediate family as the baby of the family... (so strange, I a just a kid!)



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Hello Darlisa,

Welcome to the New Netherland Settlers Project! Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I see we are distant cousins through the Roosa family. I also see the line you mentioned from you back to Cornelia Jans de Duyster. Thank you for your contributions to the project already.

In particular, I saw your thoughtful comment on the profile of Jan Jans Langedyck's wife's profile:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Janszen-1

I agree that it seems doubtful that she would have been in New Netherland in the 1630s. However, I wanted to check in that you took heed of Ellen's comment. The MyHeritage page you linked in your comment would not be considered a reliable source for the New Netherland Settlers Proejct, and I wouldn't even mention it in the profile for a person who is difficult to identify and document. That MyHeritage page seems to be partly how you reached the conclusions at the end of the document.

I looked a little at the evidence, and I disagree partly with your conclusion. For the assignment of the name "Wessels" to his wife, I see a couple of places that cite the marriage here of Jan Janszen on 25 April 1672:

https://archive.org/details/recordsofreforme01coll/page/n101/mode/2up

However, the name "Jan Janszen" would have been an extremely common patronymic, and the "j.m." in the record stood for "jonge man", which was typically written for a young bachelor. It is not impossible that it would be applied to a widower, but I would absolutely want to see more evidence that this was the same man. An article from 1878 from the New York Genealogical and Biographical record identifies the man in this wedding record as Jan Janszen [Langedyck], but it does not give any sourcing for this identification.

In any case, if that marriage record represents Jan Langedyck, then it was not his first marriage. The only primary source document I find that people seem to have used to identify the mother of his children is a baptism record from 1668, for Claes Wynkoop:

https://archive.org/details/baptismalmarriag00king/page/6/mode/2up

Jan Jansen Langedyck is one of the sponsors, listed with Gertie Jansen. People have assumed they were husband and wife, but notice how the two other baptismal sponsers were explicitly named husband and wife. So there is a loss of credibility in the assertion that Jan Jansen Langedyck and Gertie Jansen were married -- wouldn't the same clerk have entered them in the same way as husband and wife? Perhaps not. But it was definitely common to see two sponsers who were not married to each other.

So my conclusion so far is that almost nothing is known of his first wife, other than that she existed, and it is not clear if he married again or if people just saw the names "Gertie" and "Grietje" and jumped to the conclusion that it was him in the 1672 marriage record.

But the main point here is that the two links above go to transcriptions of original marriage registers. It is these sources, and wills, land records, court records, etc., that should be used on NNS Project profiles. That is what Ellen was saying in her response to your comment.

  • Now for the NNS Project!* Project communications often go through the project Google group:

https://groups.google.com/g/wikitree-new-netherland-settlers?pli=1

Please consider joining. If you do, put your WikiTree ID and/or name in the request so we know who you are and why you are sending the request!

Also, if you haven't done so already, consider adding "new_netherland" to the list of your followed G2G tags. Please let me know if you have questions, and otherwise, welcome again to the Project!

Regards,

Barry

posted by Barry Smith
edited by Barry Smith
Hello Barry... I am just now finding your very thoughtful and well written letter, as I took a break from all this for awhile for other life events. I just wanted to respond that I see this, will work my way through your points and catch up on where I was before responding further.

Thank you for your helpful letters! distant cousin Darlisa Black

posted by Darlisa Black
Hi! Are you interested in participating in this year's Spring Clean-a-thon on April 23? We would appreciate all the help we can get even if you only have a moment to clear a few errors. If you are interested you can sign up on the following link, let them know you want to be on Team Nordic Noir, formerly Spic-n-Span Scandinavians:

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1199618/have-you-registered-for-the-2021-spring-clean-a-thon-yet

Antonia, I am sorry I totally missed your comment! So many places to look anymore, hard to focus. Give me some suggestions and I am glad to help if I can!
posted by Darlisa Black
No worries! The best thing we can all do is check our suggestion lists, and see if something on our relatives needs fixing or adjusting. Click your WikiTree ID in the menu on top, in the bottom you find the link to your suggestions. Thanks!
aha! Thank you, I had not found that suggestion link.
posted by Darlisa Black
Hi Darlisa,

Welcome to the One Name Study project Abe the Spencer Name Study!!

Paula

posted by Paula J
edited by Paula J
Hi Darlisa!

Thanks for joining us! I hope you're enjoying our site and our community. I just wanted to check in and see how things are going. Has the New Member How To Pages been helpful or has it left you with questions?

It's great to have you on board. Enjoy your time here, and good luck growing your branches. If you need help be sure to use the "reply link" for this comment so that I will be notified. You can also click my name to send a private message, or post a comment on my profile page.

Cheryl ~ WikiTree Messenger

P.S. To find reliable sources for your profiles, go to the Family Tree & Tools tab; select Genealogy Research and scroll down near the bottom of that list and select Research with RootsSearch. There are over 20 websites to access from there.

posted by Cheryl (Smith) Hess
Hi Cheryl, thanks for the nice note... I have been hit or miss on the page, since I also have prime trees on ancestry and family search, but trying now to work this in more to tie things together on a free site for family that do not have the other websites.

Darlisa

posted by Darlisa Black
Hi Darlisa,

One of our mentors created a tutorial for the GEDCOMpare process that I found very helpful. I hope that you will too.

If you have any questions about how WikiTree works, let us know by using the "reply" link under our comments or by clicking our names to visit our profiles. From there you can leave a comment or send a private message.

posted by Debi (McGee) Hoag
Thank you for volunteering. You have successfully joined WikiTree.

Start with the pages https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:New_Member_How-To - they are really useful as you add profiles and learn your way around:

Let me know if you require assistance. I am happy to help. After adding my own family and ancestors I have found many cousins and distant ancestors here on WikiTree.

Sometimes links don't work in emails. If that's happened to you, check the public comments on your profile as the links will work from there.

Gilly~ WikiTree Greeter

posted by [Living Wood]
Thank you for your message Darlisa.

I will see if I can find out what has gone wrong with your upload. -Gilly

posted by [Living Wood]
Welcome!

This is just a note to say Hello and to let you know that I'm available to answer questions about joining WikiTree. To contact me, be sure to use the "reply" link for this comment so that I will be notified. You can also click my name to send a private message, or post a comment, on my profile page. Gilly ~ WikiTree Greeter P.S. If links do not work in an email from WikiTree, try them from the comment section of your profile page.

posted by [Living Wood]
Thank you Gilly. I finally got back in here with a GED to upload... although I get a message that there were problems with my upload.

Darlisa Black

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