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John Bland Sr. (abt. 1579 - 1668)

John "of Martha's Vineyard" Bland Sr. aka Smith
Born about in Colchester, Essex, Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married before 1612 in Englandmap
Husband of — married after 1640 in Martha's Vineyard, Massachusettsmap [uncertain]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 89 in Nantucket, Nantucket, Massachusettsmap
Profile last modified | Created 27 Mar 2011
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The Puritan Great Migration.
John Bland Sr. migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Great Migration (Series 2), by R. C. Anderson, vol. 6, p. 291)
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Bland or Smith?

In a deposition of 16 April 1691, Nathaniel and Abraham Drake, elderly residents of Hampton, New Hampshire, stated that they knew John Bland when they had all lived in Colchester, co. Essex, England, and indicated that he was sometimes called John Smith, "but his name, and his ancestors name, was called Bland."[1]

Anderson goes on to describe additional records involving John Bland/Smith's daughters, their spouses, and various property locations that confirm that John Smith of Watertown was the same man as John Bland , later of Martha's Vineyard.

See the WikiTree page The John Smiths of Early New England for excerpts from Anderson's article seeking to distinguish the various John Smiths of early New England.

Disputed Origins

An online tree John Bland Smith [Note: site is no longer active but exists in archive from 2014] perpetuates claims that John was the son of Anthony Bland and Adrean _____, that Anthony died and Adrean m2 James Smith who adopted John; and that Adrean then m3 Jeremiah Norcross.

From a previous version of this profile, this note: "Carlisle, thanks to Al Hunter’s fine index, shows four entries for Anthony Bland, which demand further research."[2]

In 1985, Robert Charles Anderson concluded that John Bland alias Smith was about the same age as Adrean, wife of Jeremiah Norcross, possibly even a bit older, and so could not have been her son. In doing so, he corrected an idea that seems to have started with a mistake by Charles E. Banks in his three-volume History of Martha's Vineyard, Dukes County, Mass 1925.[3]

Biography

John Bland alias Smith

Birth: "of" Colchester, Essex, England
Death: Jan 6 1668 - Nantucket, Nantucket, Massachusetts
Parents: Not known; some say he was the son of Anthony Bland.
Wives: Isabella Drake, Joanna Unknown

Born 1579 Colchester, Essex, England. [4]

Isabella Drake (first wife) was born about 1579 probably in Halstead, Essex, England. She had a son born supposedly in 1600. She was the daughter of William John Drake and Joan Merrylis both of Halstead, England.

When John and Isabella came to America is unknown but in the History of Martha’s Vineyard, it says he was found at Watertown in 1630 with wife Isabel.

There was a passenger John Bland on the "Globe" in 1635.[citation needed]

He was proprietor of Watertown, Massachusetts, 1636 and a freeman there December 6, 1636. In 1645, he owned land adjacent to that of John Benjamin.

Isabel Smith died in Watertown in 1639; she was buried 12 July 1639, age 60.[5][6]

John Bland Smith then married Joanna______.[7] They removed to Martha's Vineyard by the mid 1640s, after which John went by the name John Bland.

John made his will in 1663, naming “wife Joanna and two daughters Annabella and Isabel, who are all the children that are alive whom I own.”

Children

  1. Annabella Bland (C1613-1683) who married William Barsham.
  2. Isabel Bland (C1615-1698/9), who married (1) Francis Austin and (2) Thomas Lovett.

These are the only two documented children of John Bland alias Smith. Additional children have been associated with him, but Anderson's 1985 TAG article disproves these:

  • Thomas Band/Smith (C1619-1693) who married Mary Knapp
  • Francis Bland/Smith (C1620- )
  • John Bland/Smith Jr. (January 5, 1621/2- February 4, 1670), who married Deborah Parkhurst of Nantucket Massachusetts, June 10, 1643
  • Daniel Bland/Smith, (C1623- )

That said, John Bland's will does have a phrase that suggests he might have had additional children. As stated above, his will makes bequests to two daughters Annabella and Isabel, "who are all the children that are alive whom I own'.”

Banks, in his History of Martha's Vineyard, suggests that this means he had other children who he dis-owned. But Anderson found no evidence of other children.

That John Bland alias Smith was the father of the following other Smiths who may have lived in Watertown was suggested by Bond in 1855:[8]

  • John Smith Jr (either the John Smith who went from Watertown first to Hampton, NH then to Martha's Vineyard in the mid 1650s; or the John Smith who may first have been in Watertown, and then went to Sudbury, then Lancaster). In a 1985 article, Robert Charles Anderson discussed several John Smiths of early Massachusetts,and showed that John Smith of Lancaster was not the same person as John (Bland) Smith, was not another son of John (Bland) Smith's mother Adrian (unknown birth names; married names Bland, Smith, and Norcross), and was not the husband of Alice Smith who arrived in New England on the Planter in 1635. [9]
  • Thomas Smith
  • Francis Smith
See Distinguishing the John Smiths of Early New England

A previous version of this profile claimed, without source, that he was also the father of

Sources

  1. Robert Charles Anderson, "John Smith of Watertown, Massachusetts," in The American Genealogist, 61 (1985), pages 18-31, p 20, citing Dukes Land Records 1:82; Banks 2:42; NEHGR 21:316; 52:28
  2. Paula P. Mortensen to Charles bland, May 7, 1990. Al S. Hunter, Index of Nicholas Carlisle, Collections for a History of the Ancient Family of Bland.
  3. A manuscript genealogy of this family by Joel W. Norcross, in the library of the NEHGS, furnished many corroborative facts in the Bland-Smith search. This gen. gives no authority for date of second marriage)...
  4. Unidentified pedigree charts and family group sheets cited in an Ancestry.com index collection.
  5. New England Marriages to 1700. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015. Vol. 2, page 1394: SMITH, John & Isabelle _____ (-1639, ae. 60; in Eng., by 1605; Watertown (Watertown 433; Fallass 106; Sv. 4:118; Stone-Evans 88; NYGBR 30:201; Warner-Harrington 580; LBDF&P 13:26).
  6. New England Marriages to 1700. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015. Vol. 1, page 160: BLAND, John (alias SMITH) (-1667±) & 1/wf Isabel ____ {Reg. 21:316; Warner-Harrington 64}.
  7. New England Marriages to 1700. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015. Vol. 1, page 160: BLAND, John (alias SMITH) (-1667+) & 2/wf? Joanna ____, in Eng, by 1628; Edgartown {Martha's Vineyard 2:41-45; Seeley-Vail 10; Sv. 1:197; GDMNH 96; Reg. 21:316, 52:28; Warner-Harrington 64}.
  8. Henry Bond, Genealogies of the Families and Descendants of the Early Settlers of Watertown, Mass., Boston (1855), p. 433
  9. Anderson, Robert Charles. "John Smith of Watertown, Massachusetts." The American Genealogist. New Haven, CT. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2009 - .)(subscription), Vol. 61 (1985): pages 18-31.
  • Great Migration 1634-1635, R-S. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2012.) Originally published as: The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume VI, R-S, pp 391 - 394; by Robert Charles Anderson. Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2009. Featured Name: John Smith alias Bland.subscription site

See also:

Research Notes

Chisholme, NEHGR, 1867, Vol. 21, pg 316:

It is a matter of surprise that so few Americans are able to state with certainty the place where their emigrant ancestors resided in England before their emigration; hence, when any document is discovered revealing the locality of any family there before its emigration, it is viewed with delight by every well informed descendant of such family; even as an oasis in a desert.
The following Depositon explains itself. It shows the locality whence the Drakes (and perhaps Levitts) of Hampton, New Hampshire, and a family of Blands.
Deposition.---"Hampton in New Hampshire, in New England. The https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:MergePerson&user1_name=Bland-59&user2_name=Bland-57&action=comparedeposition of Nathaniell Drake, aged about seventie-eight year, and Abram Drake, aged about seventie year, who saith that they have know Mr. John Bland, sometime a liver upon the lland, commonly called Matthew's Vinyard, formerly a liver at Colchester, in England; we have also known Isabell Bland, now the wife of Thomas Levitt of Hampton, in New Hampsheir; we have known them boThever since wee were children,and the said Isabell Bland, now wife of Thomas Levitt, was always accounted to be the daughter of the above said John Bland; and wee have heard the abovesaid John Bland to own the above said Isabell to be his daughter, and never heard nothing to the contrarie, never since wee can remember; and the above said John Bland was sometimes called, by some persons, John Smith, but his name, and his ancestors name, was called Bland.
"Nathaniel Drake and Abraham Drake appeared 27th of April, 1691 and made oath the the truth of all above written.
"Before me, Hennery Green, Justice of Peace."

Dukes County Records, Vol. I., page 282.---Transcripts, Vol. B, p. 216. January 18, 1867. By me Richard L. Pease, Clerk of Courts. "Edgartown, Massachusetts, January 18, 1867."





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Yes, Jillian. Remove the yDNA search request. Thanks.
posted by Kitty (Cooper) Smith
I've marked the three sons as uncertain. We need more evidence that they even existed. And then we should probably detach them as there is little proof he had sons.
posted by Jillaine Smith
I'd like to remove the DNA notation at the top. The deposition clearly states that his family name was Bland and that he sometimes went by the name Smith.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Bland-59 and Bland-57 appear to represent the same person because: Same spouse. Vitals need resolving. Deathbdifference is probably that old calendar year thing.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Bland-1618 and Bland-57 appear to represent the same person because: Same person; several mistakes in Bland-1618 profile.
posted by Ellen Smith
Bland AKA Smith-2 and Bland-57 appear to represent the same person because: John Bland a.k.a. Smith is represented by WikiTree profile Bland-57. Please merge, and please keep the data from Bland-57.

See Space:The_John_Smiths_of_Early_New_England for information on distinguishing several of the various John Smiths in early New England.

posted by Ellen Smith
Profile managers, please read and comment on the open g2g question about John Bland's parentage. Thank you.
posted by Jillaine Smith
John Floyd, looks like this is intended to be the John Bland of Martha's Vineyard; if so, two things:

1. This is a duplicate of Bland-57

2. John Bland of Martha's Vineyard had only two daughters; the sons you have associated with him here are inaccurate. Even the source you include here (Gen. Dict. of Maine/NH) names only the two daughters.

Also, as Julie pointed out, Adrian is a female; in addition, Robert Charles Anderson's research published in 1985 proved that Adrian could not have been MV John Bland's parent. See Bland-57 for details. Anderson makes the case that Adrean/Adrian was likely the mother of Smith-970.

If you'd like to retain this John Bland as father of these four Brand males, please disassociate him from the MV death info, as he cannot be that man.Thanks

posted by Jillaine Smith
Bland-935 and Bland-57 do not represent the same person because: Different birth locations.
posted by Jillaine Smith
We need to find the source for the claimed father Anthony Bland.
posted by Jillaine Smith

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