Rothaide Bobbio (820 - 858)

Ancestors

Died 15 Jun 0858 at about age 38 in Milan, Milano, Lombardia, Italy

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Biography

Rothaide de Bobbio is shown by secondary sources as the daughter of Walacher (Wala) de Bobbio and his wife Rotlinde de Gellone. ^{[citation needed]}

A family tree at genealogieonline.nl (UNRELIABLE SOURCE) shows Rothaide's father's name as "Walacher I van Corbie", associated with Bobbio, Provincio di Piacenza, Italy.^[1]

Wala is mentioned as a half brother of Chrothais, mistress of Pepin I (Carloman) -- not to be confused with the husband of the woman of this profile -- was named Chrothais,^[2] of whom Settipani states her name is provided by a litany of Reichenau and that she was without doubt a close relative of Adalhard de Corbie and of her half brother Wala, the future protectors of Bernard of Italy. ^[3]

Bobbio is located in Northern Italy.

Some sources show Rothaide de Bobbio as the wife of Pepin de Vermandois. This is a surprising connection, given the geographical distance between Bobbio and Vermandois, and the fact that no reason is provided as to why Pepin should seek a spouse from so far.

Because a marriage between Rothaide and Pepin has no documentation and appears unreasonable, they have been de-linked as spouses.

Discussion: Wife of Pepin

In addition, another woman is also shown as Pepin's spouse and the mother of his children: Unknown du Vexin. Vexin is in the same geographical area as Vermandois and the combination is much more likely.

Therefore, while Pepin (d. after 840) married an unidentifed woman. Her parents are unknown.

Cawley citing Settipani (2006), conjectures that Pepin's wife may have been from the "du Vexin" family.^[4][5][2] The following information outlines theories discussing her parentage.

Cawley (2006) citing Settipani:^[6]

Pepin's wife surname possibly "du Vexin" ... adds that Settipani suggests she was [du Vexin], daughter of Theodoric, son of Nibelung, Comte du Vexin ... bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin.

Wikipedia:^[7]

Pepin's heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so Werner hypothesized marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung.

Baldwin (2006):^[2]

Comments on the conjecture linking Pepin's wife with the "Nibelungen" family (descendants of Childrebrand, son of Charles Martel), and states it's based on possessions of Heribert I's predecessors, as well as the use of the name "Heribert" in that family^[8]

Sources

• Baldwin, S. (2007, May 23). "Pépin/Pippin fl. 834×840, count (near Paris)." The Henry Project. Web.[4]

• Cawley, C. (2006). Medieval Lands v.4. Fmg.ac. Web.[5]

• Wikipedia: Pepin, Count of Vermandois (stub).

• Richardson, D. (n.d.). Royal Ancestry, V, pp. 484.

Tracking Notes

Log for Pepin's wife accumulated from duplicates and merges, and attempts to track down data

Name and DOB

• b. c. 825 -- Assuming she married Pepin (d. after 840), he was born about 815(?).^{[citation needed]} An unsourced date of marriage is about 845. If she were 20 when she married, she would have been born about 825.
• children born in the time frame 836-854.^{[citation needed]}

Currently linked parents on WikiTree:

Duplicates

Pepin only has 1 wife... She's UNKNOWN.[6]

• Unknown du Vexin. Born 825. No parents. No children linked.

born Vermandois 820, daughter of Wala Bobbio and Rotlinde de Gellone. Died 15 June 858, Milan. No children linked. Wikipedia reports that Pepin's wife has been spuriously called "Rothaide de Bobbio". ^[7] It is speculation that she married Pepin I, Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin^[5]

Issue

See Pepin's profile for Pepin's children

Citations and Notes

1. ↑ Genealogie Online, Walacher I van Corbie.[1]. Accesssed Feb 20, 2017 jhd^{better citation needed}
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1 2.2} Baldwin, S. (2006). Pepin "Carloman". The Henry Project. Web.[2].
3. ↑ Baldwin (2006) citing: Settipani, C. (1993). La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987 (Première partie - Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens) (Villeneuve d'Ascq). pp 211-2
4. ↑ Royal Ancestry, n.d., p. 484
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1} Cawley, 2006
6. ↑ Cawley, 2006, citing Settipani
7. ↑ ^{7.0 7.1} Wikipedia: Pepin, Count of Vermandois (stub v. 23:39, 9 March 2017‎).[3]
8. ↑ see Werner (1960), 101-6