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Mary (Boddie) Browne (abt. 1653 - 1726)

Mary Browne formerly Boddie
Born about in Essex, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Daughter of and [mother unknown]
Sister of [half] and [half]
Wife of — married 1671 in Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 72 in Isle of Wight, Virginiamap
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Biography

Mary was born in 1653. She died in 1726. [1]

Her father immigrated from England circa 1661.[2][3]

On the 9th day of the 6th month of 1678 (Quaker: this would be 9 Aug 1678), her father gave eight heads of female cattle to Mary's children, to be equally divided among them, which would indicate four children. Later, on 20 May 1682, her father mentions four children of his daughter Mary Brown.[4][5][6]

On 8 July 1683, her father devises unto his daughter "Mary Brown that plantation upon which she now dwelleth on and all the houses and orchards of same and all the woodland ground" between the land of Edmund Windum and John Champion" and "to her four children.. ." Bond was dated 9 Aug 1683.[7]

"Boddie, William: Leg.- daughter Mary Browne, the plantation upon which she now lives, between the land of Edmund Windum and John Champion; Mary Browne's four children. D. 6th day of 7th mo. 1683 R. August 9, 1693. Wit. William Graves (?), James Bragg, Elizabeth Roberts. Page 234."[8]

Death

Date: 17 JAN 1726
Place: Isle of Wight, Virginia, USA[9][10][11]

Alternate Date/Location:

Date: 1700
Place: Chowan, North Carolina, USA
Death:
Date: 17 JAN 1726
Place: Chowan, North Carolina, USA[12]

Event

Type: Arrival
Date: 1665
Place: Virginia, USA[13]
Type: Civil
Date: 09 AUG 1683
Place: Isle of Wight, Virginia, USA[14]
Type: Location
Date: 09 AUG 1683
Place: Isle of Wight, Virginia, USA[15]

Mary Boddie

Birth: 1662 Isle, Virginia, United States
Death: 17 January 1726 in Isle, Virginia, United States [16]

Parents:

William Boddie
Elizabeth (Taylor) Boddie

Sources

  1. Find a Grave, database and images (accessed 23 February 2022), memorial page for Mary Boddie Browne (unknown–17 Jan 1726), Find A Grave: Memorial #120549371; maintained by 47117651 (contributor 47117651), Burial Details Unknown.
  2. Historical Southern Families. Volume I, Section: Boddie of England and Virginia, p. 340
  3. Boddie, John Bennett,. Seventeenth-century Isle of Wight County, Virginia: a history of the county of Isle of Wight, Virginia, during the seventeenth century, including abstracts of the county records. Chicago: Chicago Law Print. Co., 1938. Chapter XVIII. Boddie of Essex, England and Isle of Wight, p. 341
  4. Ancestry.com. North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016. Boddie Family charts, illustrations, & coat-of-arms.
  5. Isle of Wight, Virginia, Deed Book 1, p. 165
  6. Isle of Wight, Virginia, Deed Book 2, p. 434
  7. Virginia, Land, Marriage, and Probate Records, 1639-1850. Isle of Wight, Virginia deed book 2, p. 234.
  8. Chapman, Blanche Adams. "Virginia, Isle of Wight County Records, 1634-1951," images, FamilySearch, Probate records > Wills and administrations bk I 1647-1719 > page 33 (image 39 of 164, accessed 19 December 2021); Isle of Wight County Courthouse, Isle of Wight.
  9. Source: #S16
  10. Source: #S97
  11. Source: #S103
  12. Source: #S16
  13. Source: #S93 Page: Place: Virginia; Year: 1665; Page Number: 476
  14. Source: #S102
  15. Source: #S102
  16. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:33PN-62H

See also:

  • Source: S102 Author: Ancestry.com Title: Virginia Land, Marriage, and Probate Records, 1639-1850 Publication: Name: Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date:2004
  • Source: S103 Author: Ancestry.com Title: International, Find A Grave Index for Select Locations, 1300s-Current Publication: Name: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date:2012
  • Source: S108 Author: Yates Publishing Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Publication: Name: Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date:2004
  • Source: S16 Author: Ancestry.com Title: U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1700s-Current Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.
  • Source: S80 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Name: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network.Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.
  • Source: S93 Author: Gale Research Title: Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Publication: Name: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date:2010
  • Source: S97 Author: Heritage Consulting Title: Millennium File Publication: Name: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network,Inc., 2003.Original data - Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Heritage Consulting.Original data: Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA
  • http://www.geni.com/people/Mary-Boddie/6000000008248613931
  • "Pedigree Resource File," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:33PN-62F : accessed 2015-03-27), entry for Mary /Boddie/.




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Mother is likely Child-36, Anna, who reportedly signed documents with husband (Boddie-11) until 1683 (which is when he married his second wife and had two more children with her.)
posted by David Olson
Hi All,

I don't know if any of this ever got figured out but this one shows up in my family line as a 12th grcousin and my maiden name is Brown. My grgrandfather I believe changed it from Browne. I'm fried from an all-night gen adventure and ran into this while going thru a Gedcom, didn't mean to interrupt. Please ignore if nothing applies! Goodnite..

posted by Robyn (Brown) Forgy
There are lots of problems on this and several others in this line and the Browns. They are my 9th great grandfathers. The name confusion have so many of the same name; i.e. John Brown, William Boddie, Mary Boddie. I think several of them have been confused on both wikitree and ancestry. I have been reading all of the Works by John Bennet Boddie and the Boddie and Allied Family references to try to get a hand of all the info and line, and more importantly the sources. I am holding any merges until I have a firm grip on who is who. Any help would be appreciated. Boddie-11 has his three wifes correctly but, he has two Mary Boddies. One to wife Anna and she married John Brown, and one to wife Elizabeth, that supposedly married a Joyner. The only source there is on the second Mary is a family search tree, no hard source. I cannot confirm that data yet. I am not as of yet finding a second Mary born to Elizabeth. On a side note I am looking at the multiple William Boddies. Some citing the same information but with different children and wives.
posted by Phil Phillips III MD
edited by Phil Phillips III MD
Since we know it's physically impossible for Mary to have married the William Joyner mentioned in the biography (and the children), that information should be deleted. Joyner should be removed from her CLN, and she should be merged into another profile (since we have numerous Mary Boddie duplicates as you know). Thanks.
Lots of problems with the information shown in the bio. She couldn't marry and have a child in 1687 with John Boddie when John Boddie died in 1683. She was married to John Brown in 1683 and named as Mary Brown in that year by her father. She couldn't have children with William Joyner in the 1650s and 1660s when she was only born circa 1653 herself. She couldn't have daughter Mary born in 1711 when she would've been almost 60 years of age.
I have looked at all the "sources" for these and the sources are just other trees not actual sources of legitimate information or proof. It drives me nuts that people think someone else's tree is actually a source for information or proof. One thing I have not seen is a source for Mary Margaret as her name. All I have found is Mary Boddie. I am not sure that we do not need to delete this profile; however I think I do need to strip all the misinformation and incorrect names off before merging. Do you agree.
posted by Phil Phillips III MD
Totally in agreement. I almost deleted the Margaret the other day. But didn't want to step on your toes!  ;)
Think I have found the source for all this confusion with Joyner. It is one of John Bennett Boddie's tangents. Here is the link if you can follow it. It is page 72 of Historical Southern Familes Volume II. He talks about the only John Brown's in Isle of Wright and one of them with an Elizabeth Joyner. Then he jumps back to the known children of William Browne and Mary Boddie. I had to read it several times to follw it.

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/48274/images/SouthernFamiliesII-002773-72?pId=275202

I will clean up this profile and either delete or merge later today or tomorrow.

posted by Phil Phillips III MD
edited by Phil Phillips III MD
Boddie-95 and Boddie-81 appear to represent the same person because: clear duplicates; please merge. If the date of birth/death aren't certain, choose one and list the other in the biography. Thanks.
posted on Boddie-81 (merged) by Darlene (Athey) Athey-Hill
As I stated on another Mary Boddie Boddie-41 there is some confusion. This Mary Boddie has Elizabeth as mother. The potential merge has Anna as mother. If there are two Mary Boddies by different mother as one of the Willaim Boddies has, these are not the same person. We need to clear all of these up.
posted on Boddie-81 (merged) by Phil Phillips III MD
edited by Phil Phillips III MD
Since he didn't marry Elizabeth until 1683, Anna is the correct mother.
posted on Boddie-81 (merged) by Darlene (Athey) Athey-Hill
Need to confirm that Mary Boddie/Brown married a Joyner before merge of the others. Looking for source.
posted on Boddie-81 (merged) by Phil Phillips III MD
Phil, it doesn't seem plausible that this Mary would be also married to a Joyner, because we know she was married to Brown by about 1670 and had four children by him prior to 1678. And John Browne didn't die until 1712 (or later) (unless you have proof of an earlier death). So there is no time for her to be married to Joyner and having his children. Which would mean a different Mary...
posted on Boddie-81 (merged) by Darlene (Athey) Athey-Hill
I will back track where I found that. I adopted this profile. The John Brown that married Mary Boddie is my 9th great grandfather on my father's side. I realize that her being a Joyner is probably not possible, but the brown's and boddie's are really fouled up on both here and ancestry. Want to get it right as we go with sources. Here are the one's that stared me down this rabbit hole. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Boddie-41 and https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Boddie-11. Please help me sort these out. I have been reading John Bennet Boddie's Volumes I thru whatever (Hard readings and confusing) and The Boddies' and Allied Families as a starting place. Research is good and well documented and sourced, but some people are taking his interjections and questions as fact, when they are nothing but him "thinking out loud"
posted on Boddie-81 (merged) by Phil Phillips III MD
Oh BTW do we need to delete the info in the bio of Mary Boddie that she was born in Isle of Wright, when she was born in england
posted on Boddie-81 (merged) by Phil Phillips III MD
I have now found a findagrave with the same confounding information. Whew! lots of errors to clear up. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/120549371/mary-browne
posted on Boddie-81 (merged) by Phil Phillips III MD
I have completed a lot of the corrections and merges. Still trying to sort out the misinformation and un-sourced assertions. (Another person's tree as a source does not a source or proof make). I did find a U.S and international Marriage Record for a Mary Body and William Joyner - 1658 in Virginia.

2419.013; Source type: Family group sheet, FGSE, listed as parents; Number of Pages: 1.

I believe this is like the Millennium File from ancestry the is pooled information from trees and family data sheets that might not have proof or other sources.

I have recently found a source that states the Millennium File on ancestry should never be trusted or used as a source because it it just computer complied data from tree information.

If this misinformation about Mary Boddie and a non-existent marriage to William Joyner is being propagated by this source, it will take some severe due diligence to fixed these.

posted by Phil Phillips III MD
edited by Phil Phillips III MD
Boddie-218 and Boddie-95 appear to represent the same person because: clear duplicates; these have been sitting as unmerged matches for almost two years. Let's get them (and the other duplicates) merged. Thanks.
posted on Boddie-95 (merged) by Darlene (Athey) Athey-Hill

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