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Alice (Booth) FitzHerbert (1415 - 1453)

Alice FitzHerbert formerly Booth
Born in Derbyshire, Englandmap
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Daughter of and [uncertain]
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Wife of — married before 1424 [location unknown]
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Died at about age 38 in Norbury, Derbyshire, Englandmap
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Biography

Alice Booth, was the dau. of Henry Booth of Arleston & Sinfin, Derby (d. 1446).[1][2]

Marriage

Alice was the wife of Nicholas FitzHerbert.[3] They were married sometime between 1416 and abt. 1424.[1]

Roskell, Clark & Rawcliffe (1993), state:[1]

in 1416, Alice's father, "and John de la Pole obtained the wardship and marriage of the young Nicholas Fitzherbert, for which they agreed to pay £40 ... Booth eventually arranged a marriage contract between his daughter, Alice, and the boy, whose main estates lay in Norbury in Derbyshire. Twice, in 1424 and 1437, our Member actually presented to the local parish church in the place of his son-in-law, in whose affairs he was closely involved. This valuable wardship had belonged initially to Henry V, who, in his capacity as duke of Lancaster, sold it to the two men."[1]

Nicholas FitzHerbert served as MP for Derbyshire in 1446.[3]

children

sons:

  • 1. (s. & h.) Ralph (d. 02 Mar 1484).[4][5][6]
m. Elizabeth Marshall (d. 1490).[4]
  • 2. John of Etwal, Derby, Remembrancer of the Exchequer.[3]
m. Margaret [Babington].[3]
  • 3. Robert of Upwall in Braughing, Herts. (d. 1515).[4][5][7]
m. Elizabeth, dau. of Ralph Josselyn of Sawbridgeworth, Herts. (d. 1525).[4][5]

daughters:

m. (as first wife) Sir John Cotton of Hamstall Ridware, Staffs. (d. 1462/3).[4][5]
m. Edward Crosby of London, merchant.[4][5]
  • (disputed) Edith (alias Isabel)[4][5]
m. Thomas Babington (d. 13 Mar 1519), s. & h. of Sir John Babington (d. 1487 Battle of Bosworth) & Isabel (d. 18 Mar 1486), d/o Henry Bradburne of Bradburne and the Hough in Ashbourne, Derby, by Margaret Bagot.[4]

Notes

  • Fynderne was prob. her step-mother.[1]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Roskell, J.S., Clark, L. & Rawcliffe, C. (1993). "Booth, Henry (d.1446), of Arleston and Sinfin, Derbys.," in The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1386-1421. HOP. Web.
  2. Henry Booth of Harlaston. p. 266. FMG.ac. PDF.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 The Topographer & Genealogist, 1846, I, p. 269. Google Books.
  4. 4.00 4.01 4.02 4.03 4.04 4.05 4.06 4.07 4.08 4.09 4.10 4.11 4.12 4.13 4.14 THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES PROB 11/13/461. Will 31 Oct 1502, proved 12 May 1503, of John Fitzherbert (d. 18 Novr 1502), Remembrancer of the Exchequer. Oxford-Shakespeare.com. PDF.
  5. 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 Notes on the churches of Derby, p. 236. Archive.org. eBook].
  6. FitzHerbert, Reginald H.C., ‘Will of Ralph Fitzherbert, Esq., of Norbury, A.D. 1483, in Kerry, Charles, ed., Journal of the Derbyshire Archaeological and Natural History Society, (London: Bemrose & Sons, 1897), Vol. XIX, pp. 94-100. Archive.org. eBook.
  7. Inq. Pm. of Robert Fitzherbert, TNA C 142/30/95




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What is the essence of the disputed daughter who married Babington? Is it just her name (Edith versus Isabel... which, separately these are two completely different names so that's not a good sign) or her placement as the daughter of the parents?

Update:

  • Edith's name is definitely not Isabel. Will the profile manager correct that error? We have her husband's will. The error stems from Cox, who got her name wrong and also didn't know the name of her husband. So, ignore him & believe the husband Babbington. That's definitive.
  • But what source informs us that Edith or any of the other children are by his first wife Booth [this woman] versus the second wife Elizabeth/Isabel (same name, then) Ludlow? Our given source #4 (Nina Green PDF relying on the will of John Fitzherbert) does NOT evidence placing Edith as Alice's daughter. It is silent on who are the mothers.

Is there a way we can figure this out?

Cheers,

Per Nina Green: "After the death of Alice Booth, Nicholas Fitzherbert married secondly Isabel or Elizabeth Ludlow. According to the inscription on his monument, Nicholas Fitzherbert had eight sons and five daughters by his first wife, and two sons and two daughters by his second. Cox gives the names of eleven of these children:"

  1. "Ralph Fitzherbert (d. 2 March 1484) of Norbury, eldest son and heir, who married Elizabeth Marshall (d.1490),"
  2. "The testator, John Fitzherbert (d.1502) of Etwall, second son." & "SUMMARY: The document below is the Prerogative Court of Canterbury copy of the will, dated 31 October 1502 and proved 12 May 1503, of John Fitzherbert (d. 18 November 1502), Remembrancer of the Exchequer, whose great-granddaughters, Dorothy Port (d.1607) and Margaret Port (d.1613), married into families related to Oxford’s second wife, Elizabeth Trentham. The testator was the second son of Nicholas Fitzherbert (d. 14 November 1473) of Norbury and his first wife, Alice Booth, the daughter of Henry Booth of Harleston, Derbyshire, and Isabel Fynderne. See the pedigree of Fynderne in Jewitt, Llewellynn, ‘Findern and the Fyndernes’, The Reliquary, (London: John Russell Smith, 1863), Vol. III, pp. 185-99 at p. 194:"
  3. "Robert Fitzherbert (d.1515) of Uphall in Braughing, Hertfordshire, third son, who married Elizabeth Josselyn,"
  4. "Roger Fitzherbert, fourth son."
  5. "William Fitzherbert, fifth son."
  6. "Joan Fitzherbert, who married, as his first wife, John Cotton (d.1462/3) of Hamstall Ridware, Staffordshire, by whom she had 15 children." & "Little, citing Stebbing Shaw, History of Staffordshire, I, 157, states that Joan Fitzherbert was John Cotton’s second wife, and that she died in 1502."
  7. "Elizabeth Fitzherbert, who married Edward Crosby of London, merchant."
  8. "Edith Fitzherbert who married Thomas Babington (d. 13 March 1519). Cox, infra, p. 236, calls her ‘Isabel’ and doesn’t provide the Christian name of her husband; however in his will, dated 24 February 1519, Thomas Babington requests burial ‘in the parish church of Ashover near my wife Edith’, and later in the will provides for prayers for the souls of ‘Edith and Margery, my wives’, establishing that her Christian name was Edith. Edith Fitzherbert’s husband, Thomas Babington (d. 13 March 1519) was the eldest son and heir of Sir John Babington (slain fighting for Richard III at the Battle of Bosworth by Sir James Blount, Provost Marshal), and Isabel Bradburne (d. 18 March 1486), daughter of Henry Bradburne of Bradburne and the Hough in Ashbourne, Derbyshire, by Margaret Bagot. Isabel Bradburne’s brother, John Bradburne, married Anne Vernon, daughter of Sir Richard Vernon (c.1390 – 24 August 1451) and Benedicta or Bennet Ludlow (d.1444), grandparents of Sir Henry Vernon (c.1441 – 13 April 1515) of Haddon, Derbyshire, for whose will see TNA PROB 11/18/121. See ‘The Pedigree of the Family of Babington of Dethick and Kingston’ in Collectanea Topographica & Genealogica, (London: John Bowyer Nichols and Son, 1843), Vol. VIII, pp. 324-9 at:"
  9. "Dulcibella"
  10. "Anne"
  11. "Millicent who became a nun"

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