Robert Bremner
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Robert Neilance Brown Bremner (1875 - 1929)

Robert Neilance Brown Bremner
Born in Cullen, Banffshire, Scotlandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 22 May 1899 in Plaistow, Essex, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 54 in Dartford, Kent, Englandmap
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Biography

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Robert Bremner was born in Scotland.

Robert was born 19th March 1875 at No. 3 Seatown, Cullen, Banffshire, Scotland[1], son of John Bremner (General Labourer) & Isabella Bremner M. S. Turner. Parent's date & place of marriage: 1st January 1854 Chapeltown, Glenlivet. Informant: John Bremner (father)[2].

On the 22nd May 1899, he married Alice Maud Molloy at St. Andrew, Plaistow, Essex, England. Robert Neilance Brown Bremner, 24, bachelor, Warehouseman, of 130 Neville's Row, son of [[ Bremner-474|John Bremner]] (Contractor) & Alice Maud Molloy, 20, Spinster, of 130 Neville's Row, daughter of Charles Molloy (Bootmaker). Witnessed by Charles Molloy & Kate Nicholson [3]

In 1900, Robert (a warehouseman) and Alice were living at 29 Beddome Street, Camberwell, London, England when they had their eldest child baptised at St. Peter, Upton Cross Essex along with Alice's nieces Louise Winifred Molloy and Charles Edward Molloy[4]

In 1913, Robert & Alice were living at 34 Mornington Road, Deptford, London and Robert was occupied as a foundry labourer[5].

Robert died on the 10th May 1929 at 37 West Hill, Dartford, Kent, England. Of 47 Page Crescent, Slades Green, Crayford. Aged 52 years (b. 1877). Occupation: Iron Foundry Labourer.Informant: Alice M. Bremner (widow of deceased of 47 Page Crescent, Slades Green, Crayford). [6]

Robert was buried on the 16th May 1929 St. Paulinus, Crayford, Kent, England. Of 47 Page Crescent, Slade Green, Kent, England. Aged 52 years (b. 1877) [7]

Children

  1. Elizabeth Catherine Bremner b. 1900[8]Walworth, London, England[9]
  2. Louisa Isabella Bremner b. 1901 Essex, England [10] died 1906 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland[11]
  3. Margaret Cecilia Bremner b. 1904 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland[12][13]
  4. John Charles Bremner b. 1906 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland[14]
  5. Robert George Bremner b. 1908 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland[15][13]
  6. Charles William Bremner b. 1910 Greenwich, London, England[16][13]
  7. Alice May Bremner b. 1912 Kent, England[17]
  8. Catherine Louisa Bremner b. 1915 Erith, Kent, England[18]
  9. Alfred George James Bremner b. 1918 Kent, England[19]
  10. George Alexander Bremner b. 1920 Kent, England[20]
  11. Alexander (Sandy) Bremner b. 1922 Kent, England[21]

Census

1881 Census of Scotland: 3rd April 1881
3 Seatown, Cullen, Banffshire, Scotland.

First NameLast NameRelationshipMarital StatusGenderAgeOccupationBirth Place
JohnBremnerHeadMarriedMale47 Agricultural LabourerFordyce, Banffshire
IsabellaBremnerWifeMarriedFemale47-Inveravon, Banffshire
JamesBremnerSon-Male18MasonCullen, Banffshire
MaryBremnerDaughter-Female11ScholarCullen, Banffshire
RobertBremnerSon-Male6ScholarCullen, Banffshire
JessieBremnerGrand-child-Male2-Cullen, Banffshire
[22]

1891 Census of Scotland: 5th April 1891
3 Seatown, Cullen, Banffshire, Scotland.

First NameLast NameRelationshipMarital StatusGenderAgeOccupationBirth Place
JohnBremnerHeadMarriedMale57 General LabourerFordyce, Banffshire
IsabellaBremnerWifeMarriedFemale56-Inveravon, Banffshire
RobertBremnerSonUnmarriedMale16Draper's AssistantCullen, Banffshire
[23]

1901 Census of England & Wales: 31st March 1901
86 Upton Park Road, West Ham, Essex, England

First NameLast NameRelationshipMarital StatusGenderAgeOccupationBirth Place
Robert Bremmer [sic]HeadM(arried)Male25 Draper's ClerkScotland
AliceBremmer [sic]WifeM(arried)Female19 -Greenwich, (Kent)
Elizabeth C.Bremmer [sic]Daughter-Female8 months -Walworth (London)
[9]

1911 Census of England & Wales: 2nd April 1911
26 Roan Street, Greenwich, Kent, England

First NameLast NameRelationshipMarital StatusGenderAgeOccupationBirth Place
Robert BremnerHeadMarriedMale36 Iron FounderCullen, Banffshire
AliceBremnerWifeMarriedFemale29 -Greenwich, London [sic]
Elizabeth Bremner Daughter-Female10 -Greenwich, London [sic]
Margaret Bremner Daughter-Female7 -Edinburgh
JohnBremner Son-Male5 -Edinburgh
RobertBremner Son-Male2 -Edinburgh
CharlesBremner Son-Male7 months -Greenwich, London
Alice is recorded as having been married 12 years, 6 children born from the marriage: 5 living, 1 deceased.[13]

1921 Census of England & Wales: 19th June 1921
29 Arthur Street, Erith, Kent, England

First NameLast NameRelationshipMarital StatusGenderAgeOccupationBirth Place
Robert BremnerHeadMarriedMale46 years 4 months Founder LabourerCullen, Banffshire
AliceBremnerWifeMarriedFemale39 years 10 months home dutiesGreenwich, London [sic]
Margaret Bremner DaughterSingleFemale17 years 4 months Fabric Printers Tierer & home dutiesEdinburgh, Midlothian
JohnBremner SonSingleMale15 years 4 months NoneEdinburgh, Midlothian
RobertBremner Son-Male12 years 6 months -Edinburgh, Midlothian
CharlesBremner Son-Male10 years 10 months -Greenwich, London
AliceBremner Daughter-Female8 years 8 months -New Cross, London
KateBremner Daughter-Female6 years 4 months -Erith, Kent
AlfredBremner Son-Male3 years 6 months -Erith, Kent
GeorgeBremner Son-Male10 months -Erith, Kent
[1]

DNA Research

Paternal and/or Maternal relationship is confirmed with an AncestryDNA test match between S.P. and their 2nd cousin once removed (C.L.) (a descendant of Robert Nielance Brown Bremner's sister May Bremner). Their most recent common ancestors are John McBean Bremner and isabella Turner. Predicted relationship reported by AncestryDNA: 3rd-4th Cousin based on sharing 175 centimorgans shared across 12 segments.

Paternal and/or Maternal relationship is confirmed with an AncestryDNA test match between S.P. and their 2nd cousin once removed (J.B.) (a descendant of Robert Nielance Brown Bremner's sister Margaret Bremner). Their most recent common ancestors are John McBean Bremner and isabella Turner. Predicted relationship reported by AncestryDNA: 3rd-4th Cousin based on sharing 97 centimorgans shared across 5 segments.

Paternal and/or Maternal relationship is supported with an AncestryDNA test match between S.P. and their 2nd cousin twice removed (E.S.) (a descendant of Robert Nielance Brown Bremner's sister Margaret Bremner). Their most recent common ancestors are John McBean Bremner and isabella Turner. Predicted relationship reported by AncestryDNA: 4th-6th Cousin based on sharing 38 centimorgans shared across 3 segments.

Maternal relationship is supported with an AncestryDNA test match between S.P. (a descendant of Robert Neilance Brown Bremner) and their 4th Cousin A.G. (a descendant of Robert's maternal great uncle John McDonald). Their most recent common ancestors are Thomas McDonald and Margaret Grant. Predicted relationship reported by AncestryDNA: 5th-8th Cousins based on sharing 15 centimorgans shared across 2 segments.

N.B. A.G. and S.P. are shared matches with other descendants of Marjory McDonald.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 "1921 England and Wales Census" Erith, Kent, England; Registration district number 43; Sub-district Bexley; Sub-district number 1; Enumeration district number 22; RG 15 Piece number 03890; Schedule number 158. Image available at FindMyPast (£) Accessed 12th October 2020
  2. Scotland Statutory Birth register 1875 Burgh of Cullen County of Banff, Page 3 Entry No. 7 Scotlands People
  3. "General Register Office Marriage Certificate" 1899 St. Andrew, Plaistow, Essex, England Entry No. 257 ["General Register Office Marriage Index" 1899 June quarter West Ham Registration District, Volume 4a Page 223]
  4. "St. Peter, Upton Cross, Essex, England Baptism Register entry of Elizabeth Catherine BREMNER" D/P 593/1/2 1900 Pg. 64 Entry No. 505 Image 35 available at Essex ArchivesOnline (£) Accessed 19th October 2020
  5. "St. Paul, Deptford, London, England Baptism Register entry of Alice May BREMNER" 1913 Pg. 21 Entry No. 186. London Metropolitan Archives; London, England; London Parish Registers; Reference Number: P75/PAU. Image available at Ancestry.co.uk Accessed 25th February 2019
  6. "General Register Office Death Certificate" 1929 Dartford Registration District (Sub:District: Dartford), Kent, England Entry No. 115 ["General Register Death Index" 1929 June quarter, Dartford Registration District, Volume 2a Page 823 GRO Online Death Indexes]
  7. "St. Paulinus, Crayford, Kent, England Burial Register" Page 189 Entry No. 1509 Bexley Local Studies and Archive Centre; Bexleyheath, London, England; Bexley Parish Registers; Reference Number: PA105/1/E/6 Source Information Ancestry.com. Bexley, Kent, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015. Original data: Church of England Parish Registers 1813-1985. Bexley Local Studies & Archive Centre, Bexleyheath, Kent, England.
  8. "General Register Office Birth Index of Elizabeth Catherine BREMNER" 1900 September quarter, St. Saviour Sothwark Registration District Volume 1d Page 139 Mother’s Maiden Name: MOLLOY GRO Online Birth Indexes
  9. 9.0 9.1 "1901 England and Wales Census" Class: RG13; Piece: 1587; Folio: 92; Page: 29 Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1901. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives, 1901. Image available at Ancestry.co.uk and FindMyPast (£) Accessed 23rd April 2020
  10. "General Register Office Birth Index of Louisa Isabella BREMNER" 1901 December quarter, West Ham Registration District Volume 4a Page 232 Mother’s Maiden Name: MOLLOY GRO Online Birth Indexes
  11. "Scotland Death Register Entry of Louisa Isabella BREMNER" 1906 District of Newington in the Burgh of Edinburgh. Pg. 77 Entry No. 229. Image available at ScotlandsPeople
  12. "Scotland Birth Register Entry of Margaret Cecilia BREMNER" 1904 District of Canongate in the Burgh of Edinburgh. Pg. 116 Entry No. 347. Image available at ScotlandsPeople
  13. 13.0 13.1 13.2 13.3 "1911 England and Wales Census" Class: RG14; Piece: 2672 Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA), 1911. Image available at Ancestry.co.uk and FindMyPast (£) Accessed 23rd April 2020
  14. "Scotland Birth Register Entry of John Charles BREMNER" 1906 District of Canongate in the Burgh of Edinburgh. Pg. 119 Entry No. 355. Image available at ScotlandsPeople
  15. "Scotland Birth Register Entry of Robert George BREMNER" 1908 District of Canongate in the Burgh of Edinburgh. Pg. 4 Entry No. 12. Image available at ScotlandsPeople
  16. "General Register Office Birth Index of Charles William BREMNER" 1910 September quarter, Greenwich Registration District Volume 1d Page 1025 Mother’s Maiden Name: MOLLOY GRO Online Birth Indexes
  17. "General Register Office Birth Index of Alice May BREMNER" 1912 December quarter, Greenwich Registration District Volume 1d Page 1840 Mother’s Maiden Name: MOLLOY GRO Online Birth Indexes
  18. "General Register Office Birth Certificate" 1915 Dartford Registration District (Bexley Sub District), Kent, England. Entry No. 424 ["General Register Office Birth Index of Catherine Louisa BREMNER" 1915 June quarter, Dartford Registration District. Volume 2a Page 1097. Mother's maiden name: MOLLOY GRO Online Birth Index]
  19. "General Register Office Birth Index of Alfred G.J. BREMNER" 1918 March quarter, Dartford Registration District Volume 2a Page 852 Mother’s Maiden Name: MOLLOY GRO Online Birth Indexes
  20. "General Register Office Birth Index of George A. BREMNER" 1920 September quarter, Dartford Registration District Volume 2a Page 1291 Mother’s Maiden Name: MOLLOY GRO Online Birth Indexes
  21. "General Register Office Birth Index of Alexander BREMNER" 1922 December quarter, Dartford Registration District Volume 2a Page 970 Mother’s Maiden Name: MOLLOY GRO Online Birth Indexes
  22. "1881 Scotland Census" Parish: Cullen; ED: 4; Page: 1; Line: 7. Original data: Scotland. 1881 Scotland Census. Reels 1-338. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland. Scotlands People
  23. "1891 Scotland Census" Parish: Cullen; ED: 3; Page: 1; Line: 9 Original data: Scotland. 1891 Scotland Census. Reels 1-409. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland. Scotlands People




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Robert was a stern man who would peer over his glasses whilst reading his newspaper - as remembered by his daughter Cath
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