Mary (Carey) Painter (abt. 1767 - 1842)

Born about 1767 in Paulerspury, Northamptonshire, England

Ancestors

Wife of Joseph Painter — married 29 Sep 1818 in North Cerney, Gloucester, England

Descendants

Died 19 Jan 1842 at about age 75 in Paulerspury, Northamptonshire, England, United Kingdom

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Biography

Mary (Carey) Painter was born in Northamptonshire, England.

Mary was born about 1767. She is the daughter of Edmund Carey and Elizabeth Wells. She was baptised in St James the Great Church in Paulerspury, Northamptonshire, on 11 Jan 1767:^[1]

County: Northamptonshire

Place: Paulerspury

Church name: St James the Great

Register type: Unspecified

Baptism date: 11 Jan 1767

Person forename: Mary

Person sex: ?

Father forename: Edmund

Mother forename: Elizabeth

Father surname: CAREY

In 1818 Mary married Joseph Painter at North Cerney. ^[2] The couple baptised a daughter, Edith Carey in Ashton Keynes. Joseph was a Cooper. ^[3]

Mary passed away on 19 January 1842 in Boxmoor, Hemel Hempstead, Herefordshire.^[4]

Research Notes

Mary/Edith apparently was an orphan. From the census records I must correct the birth date of Joseph from 1785 to 1795, and his wife's name from Edith to Mary! The children of Edmond and Elizabeth Carey were: William, b. 1761,Ann, b. ?and, Tom, b. 1768.Source = Pearl Fisher Joseph Painter died at 94 years Born in 1786 –married Edith Carey in 1815 – died 1880 Edith Carey, a sister to William Carey, the first missionary to India and through her influence the change was made in the spelling from “I” to “Y” to Paynter.

This information came to me from a letter from grandfather JE Paynter to my sister in 1954. He indicates that Joseph was born earlier than I had him down for. Also Pearl Fisher thought she was an orphan but grampa say she was a brother to William Carey???? more questions to be resolved. Another note to dispel the notion that William Carey is a brother to Edith; Dear Rodger Moore Thank you for your enquiry about a possible connection with William Carey. However, your ancestor Edith Carey was not a sister to William. Mary, the sister of William Carey was born in 1767 and at the age of 25 became paralysed apart from her right arm and was unable to speak. She died in1842. There is an Edith Mary Carey in our family tree but she was a daughter of Eustace Carey whose great grandfather was a brother of William. Edith Mary was born in 1868, married William Harrison, and was mother of Rex Harrison. I am sorry I could not help you further and wish you luck in future research. Mike Comber

Some have her as Edith and some as Mary. Grampa JE Paynter has said that her name was Edith. She may have had both names. Paul

Joseph Paynter and Mary Cary had a daughter they named Dianna Painter who was born March 13, 1840. Her birth was registered March 25, 1840. (See attached copy of her birth certificate.) Joseph and Mary's oldest daughter, Elizabeth, age 20, had an illegitimate daughter born June 2, 1841. Her birth was registered June 4, 1841, by her mother, Elizabeth Painter. (See attached copy of her birth certificate.) Elizabeth's daughter's birth was also recorded in the Holy Cross, Ashton Keynes Parish Church. In entry #70, dated July 11, 1841: "Dianna (Bastard daughter of) Elizabeth Painter, Ashton Keynes, Spinster, by E. H. Neale, Curate. "The family plan was that since Mary's baby daughter died, before Elizabeth's daughter was born, Mary would raise Elizabeth's daughter as her own daughter. I also attached a picture of Dianna taken in Bradford Vermont, probably after Mary Jane was born December 15, 1866 at Orange, Topsham, Vermont. (I don't know why Dianna or the family was in Vermont at that time.)Carol Ann Smith [Grose]

Family Group Sheet for: Page 4 of 9 Joseph Painter and Mary Painter [Cary]Exactly one year and two months prior to the birth of Elizabeth's daughter, Mary had bourn a baby daughter of her own on 14 March 1840. Joseph and Mary named their little daughter "Dianna." The baby was christened 19 Apr 1940 then died 29 Apr 1840. Mary was probably heart-broken to loose her little daughter. Elizabeth's lovely little daughter would be easy to love and would fill the emptiness left in her heart after her baby died. Joseph and Mary still had seven other children at home so the new baby would just appear to be one of their little brood. If Elizabeth's baby were given the same name as Mary's baby ,the child would appear to be Mary's birth-daughter. Two days after her baby was born, on 4 June 1841, to conform to the birth registration requirement, Elizabeth went to the Cricklade District office and registered her baby's birth in the Civil Registration process, stating she was the baby's mother and not listing the father's name. According to the plan, Elizabeth named her baby "Dianna.

On the second day after the birth registration, June 4th, a census enumerator knocked on the Joseph Painter family's door to gather information for the 1841 Census of England. Joseph and Mary's children were listed on the form, beginning with Elizabeth, age 20, and continuing to show each of Elizabeth's siblings by name and age. Dianna's name was omitted and thus, neither Elizabeth nor Mary claimed her as a daughter. It was though Dianna did not exist. There was a small notation at the bottom of the list of family names that said, "unknown female child, age 3." If the "3" referred to 3 days instead of 3 years, that might have been close to reality, but Dianna's name was not written on the form. In 1844, when Dianna was three years old, with her grandmother's encouragement, Joseph and their married son, Charles, his wife, Esther Reynolds, and their son, William Daniel boarded a ship that would take them to Owen Sound, Canada to establish a new business and a family home. Dianna was age six and a half on 14 December 1847, when her mother began her new married life with William Pugh. They were married in the parish in Upper Slaughter, Gloucester.

Dianna was not adopted by William Pugh nor invited to become part of the new family. Years passed and Dianna was nine years old on 30/31 March 1851. Dianna was in William and Elizabeth Pugh's home at the time the 1851 Census enumerator knocked on their door. Once again Elizabeth had an opportunity to acknowledge that Elizabeth was her daughter. The information provided on the census form stated that William and Elizabeth Pugh had a four year-old daughter, named Mary, and a 1 year-old son, named Charles, both of whom had been born in Upper Slaughter. And Dianna,---- well, her name was listed as "Dianah Painter, Visitor, age 9, Born Wilshire, Ashton Keynes." Dianna's surname was "Painter" not "Pugh. By 1856, all of Joseph and Mary Painter's children were married except 22 year-old Mary Painter and Dianna. Joseph Painter had been given a contract to make barrels to ship ore to be processed in at Bruce Mines, on Lake Ontario, Canada. Mary had decided to bring both her daughter, Mary and Dianna to join him at Bruce Mines. When their boat docked at New York Harbor, the passenger list showed Mary Painter, age 55; Mary Painter, age 22; and Dianna Painter, age 11. (Dianna's actual age was 12 years and 3 months on that date). The last time Dianna's surname was listed as Painter was on her marriage license when she became the child bride of John Rosevear. Dianna's age was listed as 17 but in reality her actual age was 15 years and 5 months. Grandmother Mary wanted both Elizabeth and Dianna to be happy. She tried very hard to make a good home for Dianna, as she raised her with her other children. The truth of Dianna's birth situation was not kept from her. Dianna knew that Elizabeth was her mother and that her birth had been illegitimate. Secretly she wished for a different birth-family situation as evidenced by her use of "additional surnames" later in her life when she tried to justify within herself a more acceptable family heritage to be remembered by her posterity---but that's a topic for another time. Mary Painter had an idea. Mary was probably still hurting from the loss of her baby daughter, who had died the year before. Mary loved her oldest daughter, Elizabeth, very much and wanted her to have an opportunity to have a more normal life, without the stigma of an illegitimate child. So the decision was made to give Dianna the same name as Elizabeth's baby sister and Mary would raise Elizabeth's illegitimate daughter as her own child, a quiet form of adoption.

Sources

1. ↑ England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2JQM-JYN : 31 December 2014), Mary Carey, 1842; from "England & Wales Deaths, 1837-2006," database, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : 2012); citing Death, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England, General Register Office, Southport, England
2. ↑ Marriage

   Name: Joseph Painter

   Gender: Male

   Event Type: Marriage

   Marriage Date: 29 Sep 1818

   Marriage Place: North Cerney, Gloucestershire, England

   Parish as it Appears: North Cerney

   Spouse: Mary Cary

   Source Citation

   Gloucestershire Archives; Gloucester, Gloucestershire; Gloucestershire Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Numbers: P70 in 1/7

   Source Information

   Ancestry.com. Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938

   Ancestry uk Record 5156 #449301

3. ↑ Edith's baptism

   Name: Edith Carry Painter

   Gender: Female

   Baptism Date: 5 Jul 1835

   Baptism Place: Ashton Keynes, Wiltshire, England

   Parish as it Appears: Ashton Keynes

   Father: Joseph Painter

   Mother: Mary Painter

   Source Citation

   Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre; Chippenham, Wiltshire, England; Reference Number: 1430/5

   Source Information

   Ancestry.com. Wiltshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1916

   Ancestry uk Record 61188 #2800787

4. ↑ Added by Des Lynch on 30 May 2020

Acknowledgments

Thank you to Paul Cockrill for creating WikiTree profile Carey-963 through the import of Cockrill gedcom.GED on Mar 12, 2013.