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Edgar Thomas Carpenter (1837 - 1894)

Edgar Thomas Carpenter
Born in Feckenham, Worcestershire, Englandmap
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Husband of — married 7 Nov 1866 in St Mary, Moseley, Worcestershire, Englandmap
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Died at age 56 in Camberwell Surrey Englandmap
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Biography

Edgar Thomas Carpenter. [1][2][3][4] Source: Source: Source: Source: J Carpenter. Found multiple versions of name. Using Edgar Thomas Carpenter.

Born 30 Sep 1837. Feckenham, Worcestershire, England. [5][6] Source: Source: Source: 30 Sep 1837. Feckenham Worcestershire. [7] Found multiple copies of birth date. Using 30 Sep 1837

Died 17 Mar 1894. Camberwell Surrey England. [8] Mar 1894. Greater London, London, Surrey, United Kingdom. [9][10][11][12] Found multiple copies of death date. Using 17 Mar 1894

Residence 1881 Camberwell, London, England. [13][14][15] Relation to Head of House: Son. 1861 Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England. Source: Relation to Head of House: Son. 1851 Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England. Source: Relation to Head of House: Head. 1891 Camberwell, London, England. [16] Source: 1893 Dulwich, England. [17] Source: 1871 Aston, Warwickshire, England. [18] 1881 Camberwell, London, England. [19][20] 1851 Edgbaston, Warwickshire, England. [21][22] 1891 Camberwell, London, England. [23][24]

Occupation: Brewers Agent. Accountant. 1866[25][26]

Census: 1881 Living 24 Oakhurst Grove Camberwell, Surrey, England.

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Note: Some writers have stated that the Carpenter Family of England derives its surname from the. trade name of carpenter, which was the vocation of an ancestor in a remote age; but surnames. before the 14th century were not very numerous in England. We find many entries, like the. following, in the Somerset Assize records, as well as in other counties, as far back as. 1243 "John the Carpenter, Ralph the Carpenter, Richard the Carpenter, Stephen the Carpenter,. son of Luke in the Fields of Drayton, Hundred of Buleston," which clearly showed they were. by trade carpenters, and were very different from the following item: "S. R. S. Cartulary,. of Montacute, Co., Somerset. Adam Carpenter consented to his wife Isabel, lady of. Chiselbourneford Co., Dorset, giving lands in that place to the monastery of Montacute,. about the year 1200." Here we have a clear case of the surname Carpenter, and of his wife. "lady" Isabel, and they must have been persons of some standing to have had lands to give. to a monastery, which an ordinary mechanic, a carpenter, would not be apt to do. Many. entries like this could be given, but this is suficient to prove the point. 2 The more probable origin of the Carpenter family, which has been found seated in Hereford,. Cornwall, and Devon, by the year 1300, although not definitely proven, is that a branch of. the de Melun family of France settled in England, and a common ancestor, when surnames came. in vogue, assumed the name Carpenter from his distinguished ancestor, William Melun, one. of the leaders in the first Crusade, who, in 1098, at the siege of Antioch in Syria, so. distinguished himself by his dexterity in the use of his battle-axe that he was nicknamed. "William the Carpenter." An account of this is given in Gibbon's "Decline and Fall of the. Roman Empire," in his chapter on the Crusades, vol. 4, page 208. 2 These Counts de Melun, from Melun, a town in Dept. Seine et Oise, France, held many. possessions in England. One of them, Robert de Melun, was Bishop of Hereford 1164-1179;. another became Earl of Warwick; another was Dean of Wimborne. So the De Meluns were. prominent in Hereford before 1200. We find that a Hugh Carpenter was a chaplain at Hereford. Cathedral in 1292, as the records of Hereford Cathedral show. 2 In the British Museum, London, is a "Life of Lord George Carpenter," published in 1736,. five years before his death. It is therein stated of him that he was a son of Warncomb. Carpenter, the sixth son of Thomas Carpenter, esq., of the Holme in the. 2 THE CARPENTER FAMILY 61. 2 parish of Dilwyn, Herefordshire, where the family have been possessed of considerable. estate for over 400 years. So we have another proof of the family being there by 1300. The family bore arms, which in heraldic parlance reads as follows: "Paly of six, argent. and gules, on a chevron azure, 3 cross crosslets or." Motto "Per acuta belli" (through. the asperities of war). The 3 cross crosslets denote an ancestor in be Crusades or who. was a Crusader. What more distinguished one could they have than William de Melun? In a. letter dated 7 August, 1907, from Rev. William Boyd Carpenter, Bishop of Ripon, Yorkshire,. afterwards a Canon of Westminster and chaplain to the reigning sovereign of England, the. writer was informed that he, the Bishop, bore be Hereford Arms, and that Sir Noel Paton. explained to him that originally the crest was a round-handled sword, which in drawing. became shortened, until nothing but the cross and globe are left beneath it. These arms. were used by John Carpenter, town clerk of London, who died in 1442, and who left property. to pay for the education of boys of the City of London; today the school stands on the. Thames Embankment, near Blackfriars Bridge, and is known as me City of London School a. fitting monument to a great man, as he was. 2 A near kinsman of this John Carpenter was another John Carpenter, Bishop of Worcester, who. was also tutor of Prince Henry, afterwards King Henry V, of England. He died in 1476 and. was buried at Westbury on Trim, Gloucester, and his arms as used by the Hereford family. were emblazoned on a glass window of the college and church as early as 1443, as he rebuilt. the College and was a great benefactor to it. We find that in 1323 John Carpenter was. member of Parliament for Liskeard in Cornwall, and Stephen Carpenter for Crediton in Co. Devon, in 1425 as was also John Carpenter, town clerk, a M. P. for London a century later. Such positions in those days were not held by mechanics, as carpenters by trade would be,. with all due respect to an honorable vocation, but the holders came out of a prominent. family. So much in vindication of the surname Carpenter. Although the facts are not. completely proven, yet the evidence is in its favor, until a better can be produced. 2 The main line of the Cornish Carpenters, back to John Carpenter, M. P., for Liskeard,. 1323, is well kept to the present day, and their virile nature as defenders of England's. prestige on the sea is evidenced in Captain Francis Alfred Carpenter of H. M. S. Vindictive, who bottled up the German submarine Bed at Zeebrugge in the late great war. Those of the Holme or Homme, Hereford, at present have no reliable records forthcoming. before 1450, about when William Carpenter was born; he died in 1520. In the beginning of. the 15th century, while John Carpenter was town clerk of London, we find the. 2 62 THE CARPENTER FAMILY. 2 Carpenter family firmly established in Co. Surrey on the south, and in Herts on the north. of London. In Herts, John Carpenter, the town clerk, had landed estates at Chestnut,. together with his kinsman, John Carpenter, afterwards Bishop of Worcester, granted to. them in 1441 by the king. In the same county, at St. Albans, Hugh Carpenter was located. His will is dated 25 October, 1448; so he was contemporary with John the town clerk, and. was, no doubt, related, as their arms were the same. This family was not a very numerous. one. Finally at Redbourne, where they subsequently were residents, the family name became. extinct, by the death, on 10 November, 1782, of George Carpenter, whose wife was Mary. Elizabeth. Their only daughter Elizabeth Louise Carpenter, married 1 January, 1800,. Thomas Bowes-Lyon, eleventh, Earl of Strathmore and Glamis, and is the third great. grandmother of Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, who lately married the Duke of York, and who bears. the name Elizabeth from her ancestor, Elizabeth Carpenter. 2 The Hereford branch is a very prolific one. By the arms borne we find them scattered. through the south, west, and midland counties of England. The Parish Registers are silent. witnesses of their residence in great numbers in London, Kent, Sussex, Surrey, Wilts,. Hants, Somerset, Gloucester, Worcester. Warwick, and Shropshire. Farther north and in the. eastern counties they are rarely met. With few exceptions, among all this large aggregate. of Carpenter, all we know of them is that they were christened, married, and buried as. the church records bear evidence. The Cornish, Devon and Dorset parishes are replete with. the name of Carpenter, most probably from the Cornish ancestor. 2 In 1657 a George Carpenter was born, from the Hereford family of Carpenter. He was a. great general. He fought in Spain, and in 1715 defended the country from the invasion. of the Jacobite Pretender, and defeated his army at Preston Lancaster He " created Lord. Carpenter, and his grandson was Earl Tyrconnel. This family became extinct in 1853 at. the death of John Delavel Carpenter. It was a very meagre branch in point of numbers. 2 We will now turn to the United States of America, where a more prolific field seemed. to await this now widely extending family. Few people are aware of the great influx. of Carpenter blood injected into the American Republic in its incipiency. From the. Mayflower, in 1620, landed at Plymouth Rock, Mass., William Bradford and Dr. Samuel. Fuller. In July, 1623, landed George Morton, from the ship Anne. I will explain how. the Carpenters came into their lives. We all know the story of the Pilgrim Fathers,. and their flight to Leyden, Holland, to escape the persecutions of the reigning. Stewarts from James I down. Among those. 2 THE CARPENTER FAMILY 63. 2 who were in Leyden at that time was one Alexander Carpenter, who was buried at Wrington,. Somerset. His parentage is so far a mystery, but we know from the Leyden record he came. from Bath, Somerset. Henry M. Dexter, in his exhaustive work, "The England and Holland of. the Pilgrims," published in 194 at Boston positively states that Alexander Carpenter was. from Wrington, and his daughter, Juliana Carpenter, who married George Morton, at Leyden,. 23 July, 1612, and whose residence is recorded in the Leyden Records as from "Baert," in. England, came from Bath, Somerset, his interpretation of "Baert." This Alexander fled to. Leyden for his religion, and took with him his daughters, of whom he had five, viz.: Mary,. Alice, Julia Ann, Agnes, and Priscilla. These were married as follows: Agnes married 24. April, 1613, Dr. Samuel Fuller. One was buried at Leyden, 3 July, 1615, with no surviving. issue, Alice, betrothed 17 May, 1613, to Edward Southworth, of London, who died 1620. She came to New England in 1623, and married in that year Governor William Bradford, and. died 5 April, 1670, aged about 80 years. Issue: Thomas and Constant Southworth, by her. first husband, who came from an old and titled family of Lancashire. By her second husband. she had William, Joseph, and Mercy Bradford. Jane G. Austin, in Harper's New Monthly. Magazine of 1869, wrote a very pleasing story, "William Bradford's Love Life." It makes. good reading as a romance of two lovers; but items therein depicted, came from the. author's own fancy, for they are not borne out by the historical facts in the case. Julia Ann or Juliana married 23 July, 1612, at Leyden, George Morton, who came from. Yorkshire, and arrived in New England in 1623, as above stated. She married for her. second husband Manassah Kempton. She died 19 February, 1665, aged 81 years. Priscilla. (Dille in Leyden record), born 1 1598, came to Plymouth soon after 1627 and married. William Wright, who died 1633. On 27 November, 1634, she married John Cooper of. Branstable, Mass. She died 1689, aged 91 years. No issue survived her Mary came to. Plymouth about 1644, after the death of her parents at Wrington, Somerset. "She was a. godly old maid, never married," so says the quaint record. She died in 1687, aged about. 90 years. Note the longevity of these four sisters, which is wonderful, after such. exposures as they had to endure as pioneers in the Plymouth Colony. 2 To sum up this evidence, we find the Carpenter blood disseminated through three of these. grand pioneer women, in the following families of New England: The Bradfords, Southworths,. Mortons, Kemptons, Wrights and Coopers. Although Agnes was the We of Dr. Samuel F.,. baptized 20 January, 1580, at Redenhall, Co., Norfolk, laid down her life in old Leyden,. some five days after the burial of her child, and her Carpenter. 2 64 THE CARPENTER FAMILY. 2 blood was not transmitted in the Fullers. Dr. Samuel Fuller married as his third wife 27. May, 1617, Bridget Lee. She survived her husband many years in New England, and their only. son, Samuel Fuller, carried on the family name. 2 There are many interesting items on record in Leyden in those early and eventful days,. giving evidence of the residence of these families, and their mingling with Alexander. Carpenter and his daughters, who were religious refugees in that historical old city in. Holland. Little did they dream of the part their future posterity would play as citizens. in the great Republic of the United States of America. 2 We will now turn to two other branches of the Carpenters, who migrated to New England,. for the same reason as Alexander Carpenter fled to Leyden. The first to arrive was one. William Carpenter, son and heir of Rev. Richard Carpenter of Amesbury, Wilts., England. He married Elizabeth Arnold. She was born at Cheselbourne, Dorset, 23 November, 1611,. and where Adam Carpenter lived in 1200. They married before leaving England, sailing from. Dartmouth, Devon, 1 May, 1635. They went first to Hingham, Mass., and then to Providence,. R. I., and made their home there with Roger Williams. This William Carpenter was the son. of a minister, Richard Carpenter, and a great preacher of his day. William Carpenter's. name appears with the founders of the "First Baptist Church in America," constituted at. Providence, R. I., at the close of the year 1638; and also in the "Initial Deed," 8. August, 1838, of the New Providence Plantation. His will, made 10 February, 1680, showed. the extent of his estate, which was a large one for those days, as he was one of the. largest landowners of the colony at his death, 7 September, 1685. 2 From this worthy progenitor some 4,000 descendants are traced, and their record is given. by Daniel H. Carpenter, now dead, of Maplewood, New Jersey, in his work entitled,. "The Carpenter Family in America," he being a descendant from this William Carpenter. from Amesbury. 2 Another branch known as the Rehoboth, Mass., Carpenter Family, had as its progenitor,. another William Carpenter, who was also a first cousin to William Carpenter, of Providence,. R. I., above mentioned. One of his descendants, Amos B. Carpenter, of West Waterford,. Vermont, spent fifty years of his life in gathering and compiling the genealogy of his. famous progenitor, and amassed over 13,000 names of his descendants, which are in his. voluminous work, "The Carpenter Memorial." This William Carpenter sailed from Southampton. on the ship Bevis, May 16, 1638, aged 33 years. His wife, Abigail, 32, and four children. His father, William Carpenter, aged 62, accompanied them, and one servant, Thomas. Bransholt, age 14 years. The father subsequently returned to England. The clearance. records in. 2 CARPENTER FAMILY 65. 2 Southampton stated that the father William was of Wherwell. On reference to the Parish. Register there, no trace of Carpenters living there, can be found. The evidence goes to. show that the name was given to blind the authorities, for they had to come away almost. incognito to escape their persecutors who were after them because of their religious. belief. It is most likely, however, that they came from that vicinity, as Wherwell, near. Andover, Hants., is perhaps only 25 miles: east of Amesbury, Wilts, where his cousin. William emigrated from some three previously. That they were cousins is evidenced by the. will of the Rehoboth William, made 21 April, 1659, in the grant of land at Pawtuxet,. bequeathed to his daughter Hannah, who married Joseph Carpenter, son of William Carpenter,. of Providence, R.I., 21 April, 1659. These two were therefore second cousins. Again a more. conclusive evidence of the relationship of these two William Carpenters is shown in the. record of a purchase of real estate by William Carpenter, of Rehoboth, from William. Carpenter, of Providence, in a deed recorded at Warwick, R.I., in which deed William of. Providence is called "cousin." That this William of Rehoboth was a preacher and well. educated, is attested by his will, wherein he bequeaths his books, Latin. Greek, and. Hebrew, and other theological works, to various members of his family. 2 Governor William Bradford was a great friend to these two William Carpenters, and extended,. especially, to William of Rehoboth, many favors, as undoubtedly, Alice Carpenter, his. second wife, was related to them. But it is to be regretted that no documents are in. existence to show how closely. In Amos B. Carpenter's great work, "The Carpenter Memorial,". is to be regretted also that there are many facts given which subsequent research have. proven to be entirely erroneous; and it might be well to point these out, so as in future. to avoid unnecessary trouble. Notably the pedigree or chart give on page 32, of the descent. of William Carpenter of Rehoboth and Alexander of Wrington, Somerset, as direct. descendants of William Carpenter, who died 1520, at the Homme, Dilwyn, Hereford; and then. traced farther back to John Carpenter, brother of John Carpenter, the town clerk of London,. who died 1442, and their father, Richard Carpenter, of St. Mary Outwich, London, which has. every appearance of being a fabrication, as a pedigree, for the proofs are not forthcoming. Again, on page 31, it states that William Carpenter of Cobham, Surrey was, "without doubt,". a son of Alexander Carpenter, of Somerset, and thus brother to Alice Carpenter Bradford. These are the facts: This William of Cobham was a son of Gregory Carpenter of West Barnes,. and Merton Surrey. He was a member of the Privy Council of King Charles II., who knighted. him. He was granted a coat. 2 66 CARPENTER FAMILY. 2 of arms in March, 1663, the same time as the Trefusis or Somerset Carpenters of Bradford-. on-Tone. His arms were known as the "greyhound arms," while the Somerset Carpenter family. had an escallop shell, with a snail for their crest, and the motto "per orbem." Sir William. Carpenter of Cobham died without issue, and strange to say, the Philadelphia Carpenters. have adopted these "Greyhound Arms" for their branch. By Herald Visitations of Surrey, and. also by wills copied from those in the Somerset House, London, the writer has authentic. evidence of the parentage of Sir William Carpenter, and can trace that to his progenitors. in Surrey, who settled at Merton in the middle of the 15th. century. 2 In 1921, by a copy from the records of the Parish of Dilwyn, Hereford, of all Carpenter. entries back to 1559, it is conclusively proven that no William Carpenter, was born there. in 1576, and by trade a carpenter in London, as stated on page 832; for all the male heirs. mentioned in the parish records as living at the "Homme." Dilwyn were styled "generosus". or gentlemen, as the records are in Latin, and a son of a "Gentleman," so titled in those. days is not very apt to be a carpenter by trade. So much in vindication of Alexander. Carpenter, William of Providence, and William of Rehoboth, Mass., who contributed so much. to the early peopling of the New England States, and who were nearly related, but whose. parentage and lineage is at present buried in the silent records of the dim past. That. they came of a choice seed, culled from old England, their lives and a lasting name and. posterity will bear testimony of. 2 We will now turn to a third branch of the Carpenter Family, which has played a. distinguished part in the State of Pennsylvania, and that is the family of which Samuel. Carpenter, the Quaker, was the progenitor. A splendid volume, entitled "Samuel Carpenter. of Philadelphia and His Descendants," published in 1912, and edited by one of his. descendants,, General Louis H. Carpenter, U.S.A., bears evidence of the greatness of the. character of this worthy man. Samuel Carpenter was born 4 November, 1649, at Horsham,. Sussex, England. As a young man he identified himself with the sect known as Quakers,. and was in Barbadoes, West Indies, in 1673, at that time a place of refuge for persecuted. religionists, and where he was fined at that time for failing to furnish men in arms,. which was contrary to the religious belief of the Quakers or Friends. That his family were. people of means, is shown by the property and social position they held in Sussex. From. investigations made, there is some evidence to show they were related to the Carpenter. Family living at that time at Godalming, Surrey, whose head came from Hereford and settled. at Godalming in the middle of the 16th century and married Margaret Champion. (See. 2 CARPENTER FAMILY 67. 2 visitations of London 1634-1636 of Joshua Carpenter of London, grandson of this William of. Godalming.) 2 In the records of St. Marys; Horsham, is the entry made on November, 1559, of the. christening of William Davyson, son of William Davyson, and among the god- fathers, etc.,. were a Thomas Carpenter, and "Mary Champion, wife of John." The same family name "Champion". is the name of the wife of William Carpenter of Godalming. In a pedigree of a branch of. the Carpenter family located at Rye, Sussex, England, going back to about 1500 A. D.,. and whose arms were accepted in 1634 by the Herald in his visitation, and on record in. the College of Arms, London, showing the No. 3 cross crosslets, of Hereford, we can find,. perchance, another link to prove that the Horsham branch originally came from the Hereford. Carpenter main line. In As Rye pedigree we find that one John Carpenter, born about 1540,. married Anne Davison, sister to Sir William Davison, Secretary of State to Queen Elizabeth. Here the Davison or Davyson, name appears as at the christening at Horsham in November,. 1559, showing that a William Davison was related to both the Horsham and Rye Carpenters. These are points, worthy of consideration, to show that the Horsham Carpenters came. originally from Hereford. I will yet give another while at this stage. Thomas Milbourne. Clark, born 28 February, 1796, and a grandson of Thomas Carpenter of Kingston, Jamaica,. W. I., who was of fourth generation in descent from Samuel Carpenter, the Quaker, the. Carpenter name having become extinct in that Jamaica branch, was quite intimate with. John Delaval Carpenter, the last Earl of Tyrconnel, as before mentioned, and visited. and corresponded, with him and his aunts, who regard him as a close relation. This. Thomas, in consideration of this intimacy named one of his sons Charles Carpenter Clark,. after Charles, the father of John Delaval Carpenter, and one of his daughters he named. Emma Caroline Almeria Clark, after the two aunts of John Delaval Carpenter, who were lady. Almeria, and Lady Caroline Carpenter. On the death, in 1853, of the last Earl Tyrconnel,. John Delaval Carpenter, this Thomas Milbourne Clark was advised by some to compete for. the title of Earl Tyrconnel, as he was then considered the nearest to him; but his health. failing in 1854, he gave up the idea and died 28 December, 1855, a much respected merchant. and citizen of Kingston. 2 Those acquainted with Philadelphia, must know of Samuel Carpenter, and what he did for the. Colony. He arrived in Philadelphia 10 July, 1683, the year after it was first founded by. William Penn. He became a close friend of the colonizer, and was the first treasurer of. the colony of Pennsylvania and one of the executors of the will of its founder, William. Penn, also. 2 68 CARPENTER FAMILY. 2 one of the three Commissioners of State representing the Proprietor of the Province,. William Penn, in his absence. 2 Joshua and Abraham, two of Samuel Carpenter's brothers, subsequently joined him. They. belonged to the Church of England, and today, the ground on which Christ Church,. Philadelphia, stands was donated by Joshua Carpenter, who was a brewer and a prominent. man in the new Colony. His descendants are not so numerous as those of his brother Samuel. Their other brother Abraham Carpenter left no issue. 2 These two Carpenter families extended into New Jersey, and intermarried with the best. families of that State and also of Pennsylvania. Another branch from Samuel going to. Jamaica, W. I., as above stated, resided there until the death of Thomas Carpenter, in. 1800, who was the last to bear the family name, the family being perpetuated in the female. line. The records show the distinguished services to the nation, that this branch of the. Carpenters have given. To those desiring more detailed information of these three Carpenter. families, a perusal of the three published volumes, above mentioned will bring much. satisfaction. 2 It might be well here, while dwelling on the West Indies, and use of arms among the. different branches of the Carpenters, to mention another coincidence, which may serve as. a connecting link between the Somerset Carpenters of Bradford on Tone, to whom was granted. arms in 1663, as before mentioned, and the Carpenters of Godalming Surrey. In 1685, while. writing to London to the Commissioners of the Colonies, Henry Carpenter, who subsequently. became Secretary General of the Leeward Island, and died at Nevis, in 1703, used the. Somerset Carpenters arms and crest, as it appears on his correspondence to them, viz.,. Vert, an escallop shell ar. between 2 palets or. Crest a snail ppr. with shell on top ar. (See Oliver's History of Antigua.) In his will, made in 1703, among other items mentioned,. he Henry Carpenter, bequeaths 500 pounds to a cousin of his, John Carpenter, residing at. Farncombe, near Godalming, Surrey. From time to time other branches from the main Hereford. line of the Carpenters have strayed over into the United States and have left their name. and descendants, to help build up this great Republic. At the beginning of 1700 came to. Chester Co., Penn. one William Carpenter from Alderton, Gloucestershire, England. This. family bore the Hereford Carpenter arms (of) 3 cross crosslets. A pedigree back to 1500. is in the hands of the writer. This branch is found mostly in Chester Co., Penn. About. the same time, in the early part of 1700, came another Carpenter by the name of John from. England, and probably from the same county, Gloucester. He settled at Deptford, Gloucester. Co., New Jersey, and on 3 February, 1743, he married Sarah Driver at Christ. 2 CARPENTER FAMILY 69. 2 Church Philadelphia. She was a Quaker at the time of her husband's death, in May, 1760. This branch migrated to West Virginia, with the tide of migration of that period, and. one of the family drifted into the Dakotas, and finally landed in Denver, where he lived. and followed his profession as a mining engineer of great prominence. He took great. interest in his forefathers, and spent a great deal of time and money to determine where. his American ancestor, John Carpenter of Deptford, emigrated from in England, but was. unsuccessful. His name was Dr. Franklin R. Carpenter. We corresponded considerably. together before his death, some years ago. Among one of the items we discussed was one. which he felt sure belonged to his family, as his great-grandfather Benjamin Carpenter. traveled around somewhat, and his belongings were disposed of, which accounts for the. papers being found in an old secretary sold at an auction upon which the following item. may throw considerable light. 2 This item is referred to by Daniel H. Carpenter in his book, "The Carpenter Family in. America" pages 347, and 348, the following is a copy of the item in question. 2 "Carpenter Deeds. In the Brooklyn Eagle of February 2, 1895, there appeared an article. describing "An old Curiosity Shop" at Flushing, L. I., kept by John H. Halleran. Among. the curios described was a parcel of old wills, deeds, etc., dating back to 1666, giving. therein a tracing of the Carpenter family for over 500 years. This article I did not see. until after the death of Mr. Halleran in 1898. 1 wrote to his executors, but received no. answer. A sale of Mr. Halleran's gatherings was held by order of his executors in New York. on February 6, 7, 8. and 9, 1900. Number 639 was by the catalogue described as "History. and Genealogical Account of the Carpenter Family, with original wills and deeds on. parchment." I had been quite ill for a few days at the date of the sale, which was held. in the evening. 2 Nevertheless I went to the city early, and received permission to look at the papers,. which I found were three or four parchment deeds, with a will of William Carpenter of. Colford, Gloucester County, England, dated 1650, showing a son John and a daughter. Phillipi, and other papers gave names of a William, Robert, and John, of Colford, Madley,. Hidesfield, etc., in Gloucester of dates 1650-1670. 1 was only allowed a few minutes to. handle the papers, but saw that they were of much genealogical value. I was too ill to. stay to the evening sale, but left a bid for the documents, but some one made a better. bid and got the package. 2 Since then by advertisements and correspondence I have tried to find the purchaser, who. the auctioneer says, gave the name of CARPENTER, but all my efforts have so far been. unsuccessful. 2 70 CARPENTER FAMILY. 2 I have learned from one who saw the papers several years ago at Mr. Halleran's place,. that Mr. Halleran found the package in an old secretary or other furniture which he had. bought at auction.". In connection with the above, I will state that if ever these papers come to light that. the Carpenter family will be traced back to the 12th century into Hereford, Co., England;. and all interested members of the Carpenter family now living in the Eastern States,. especially in New Jersey, around Trenton and vicinity where John Carpenter of Deptford. lived and died in 1760, who may read these lines, ought to make a special effort to. locate these papers and make them known, for they are of vital importance to trace our. ancestry thereby. May they soon be found. 2 Another branch of the Hereford Carpenters, bearing their arms, came to New York City in. the middle of the 18th. century, in the person of George Carpender (a variant of Carpenter). (The Carpenters of St. Briaval's, Gloucester Co., England, spell their name this way),. and his wife Elizabeth, who were both buried in Trinity Church Yard, New York. Their son. John lived in Brooklyn, and was the one who perpetuated the family name in New York. His. three sisters Catherine, Elizabeth and Sarah Carpente. 2

Marriage Husband Edgar Thomas Carpenter. Wife Georgiana Sarah Jennens. Child: Ada M Carpenter. Child: George Edgar Carpenter. Child: Myra Isabel Storey Nee Carpenter. Child: Alice M Carpenter. Child: Edgar Jennens Carpenter. Child: Guy Oliver Carpenter. Child: Victor Reuben Carpenter. Child: Violet R Carpenter. Marriage 07 Nov 1866. St Mary ,Moseley by Birmingham,Worcestershire. [27][28] Marriage 07 Nov 1866. St Mary, Moseley By Birmingham Worcester. [29] Marriage 07 Nov 1866. Moseley, St Mary, Worcestershire, England. [30]

Sources

  1. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for George Edgar Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  2. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  3. Source: #S1007030928 Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=BirminghamParishMarriage&h=2612652&indiv=try Note:
  4. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Georgianna Sarah Jennens http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=6108427246&indiv=try Note:
  5. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for George Edgar Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  6. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  7. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Georgianna Sarah Jennens http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=6108427246&indiv=try Note:
  8. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Georgianna Sarah Jennens http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=6108427246&indiv=try Note:
  9. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for George Edgar Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  10. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  11. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for George Edgar Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  12. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  13. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for George Edgar Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  14. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Georgianna Sarah Jennens http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=6108427246&indiv=try Note:
  15. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for George Edgar Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  16. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Georgianna Sarah Jennens http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=6108427246&indiv=try Note:
  17. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  18. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Georgianna Sarah Jennens http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=6108427246&indiv=try Note:
  19. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for George Edgar Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  20. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for George Edgar Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  21. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  22. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  23. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  24. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  25. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  26. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=0&pid=119 Note:
  27. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=76052240&pid=1309 Note:
  28. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=76052240&pid=1309 Note:
  29. Source: #S1007030925 Database online. Record for Georgianna Sarah Jennens http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=76052240&pid=1309 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=pubmembertrees&h=6108427246&indiv=try Note:
  30. Source: #S1007030928 Record for Edgar Thomas Carpenter Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=BirminghamParishMarriage&h=2612652&indiv=try Note:
  • Source: S1007030925 Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Repository: #R-1246157713
  • Repository: R-1246157713 Ancestry.com
  • Source: S1007030928 Ancestry.com Birmingham, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937 Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc. Repository: #R-1246157713 Note: Anglican Parish Records. Birmingham, England: Library of Birmingham.




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