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Richard Carpenter (abt. 1575 - 1627)

Rev Dr [uncertain] Richard Carpenter
Born about in Somerset, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married 1 Sep 1606 in Nettlecomb, Somerset, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died in Loxhore, Devon, Englandmap
Profile last modified | Created 22 Dec 2009 | Last significant change: 3 Jul 2021
13:54: Gillian Thomas rejected a match of Carpenter-20 and Carpenter-9304. [Thank Gillian for this]
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Biography

Richard Carpenter was born to Robert Carpenter and Elinor Reade and husband of Susanna Trevelyan. He was an English clergyman and theological writer. [1]

1575 Name, Birth, Parentage

Richard Carpenter[2], Theologian. [1] was probably born in Cornwall in 1575; [1] his Exeter College Life Summary gives that date and place. [2] [3]

A Richard Carpenter was baptised at Phillack, Cornwall, on 16 February 1575[/6], son of Thomas Carpenter.[4][5] It is not certain, however, that he and this Richard Carpenter were the same person. [6][1]

Early Carpenter books have Richard Carpenter to be the son of William & Abigail Carpenter. However this is wrong. Parentage corrected by wills found in England. [7]

1592 Academic Career

He matriculated at Exeter College, Oxford, on 28 May 1592, and took his degrees of B.A. on 19 February 1596, B.D. 25 June 1611, and D.D. 10 February 1616–17. [6] The Exeter College records add to this that he matriculated at the age of 15.[2]

He was elected to a Cornish fellowship at his college on 30 June 1596, and retained it until 30 June 1606; under the advice of Thomas Holland, the Rector, he studied theology, and became noted as a preacher.[6]

1601 Cullompton

On 12 Feb 1601 he was appointed vicar of Cullompton.[2]

1605 Sherwill

Rector of Sherwill, 1605[2]

1606 Marriage to Susanna Trivilian at Nettlecombe, Somerset

He married Susanna, daughter of John Trevelyan of Nettlecombe, Somerset. [2]

While he was a tutor at Oxford, Christopher Trevelyan, a son of Sir John Trevelyan, 2nd Baronet of Nettlecombe, Somersetshire, who married Urith, daughter of Sir John Chichester (of the Chichester baronets) of Devon, was among his pupils, and through this introduction to these families Carpenter married Susanna, born about 1688, and [8] his pupil's youngest sister, and obtained his benefice from Sir Robert Chichester. [6][9] his pupil's youngest sister, and obtained his benefice from Sir Robert Chichester.[6] The marriage took place at Nettlecombe, Somerset, on 1 September 1606. [1]

Note, there are also multiple profiles for Sir John Trevelyan -- best link is to Sir John Trevelyan.

Is this the Richard Carpenter who married Susanna Trevilian 1 Sept. 1606 at Dwelly Wells Parish [10] is the Richard Carpenter who was born in 1575 in Cornwall, England and died in 1627 in Loxhore, Dorset, England. [7]

1606 Georgeham

Rector of Georgeham 1606, [2]

In 1606 he was appointed by Sir Robert Chichester to the rectories of Sherwell and Loxhore, near Barnstaple, and it has been suggested that he was the Richard Carpenter who from 1601 to 1626 held the vicarage of Cullompton. His will, dated in 1625, describes him as pastor of Sherwell (not Sheviock, as per will abstract), Devon.[11]

1611 Loxhore

Rector of Loxhore 1611, [2]

1625 Will

His will, dated in 1625, describes him as pastor of Sherwell (not Sheviock, as per will abstract), Devon. [12]

Richard Carpenter's will, made August 9, 1625, proved Feb 17, 1627/8 [13] shows him to be pastor of Sheviock Devenport (near Plymouth). (Sheviock is said to be an error in the abstract - read Sherwell) His widow/relict is Susan Carpenter, daughter of John Trevelian Esq. of Nettlecombe. The will mentions:

  • son John Carpenter, student at Exeter College, Oxon, [14] }}
  • eldest daughter Susan, [14]
  • dau. Mary, [14]
  • my son Richard, [14]
  • 3rd dau. Ann, [14]
  • 4th dau. Elizabeth, [14]
  • 3rd son Edward, [14]
  • 5th dau. Sarah, [14]
  • 4th son, and youngest child Thomas, [14]his brother John Carpenter of Salisbury, and three sisters, Jane, Ann, and Agness.

1627 Death and Burial

He died between 9 August 1625 (will) & 17 February 1627[/8] (will proven) Sherwell, Devon, England [1]He died on 18 December 1627, and was buried in the chancel of Loxhore Church, where a monument was erected to his memory.[6] He was aged 52 at his death. [2] [6]

Are these the same or different Richards?

"Richard Carpenter was buryed the 21 daye of September 1625." [15]

Works: Theology

Carpenter's literary productions were confined to theology.[1]

He was the author of:

  • A Sermon Preached at the Funeral Solemnities of Sir Arthur Ackland, 9 January 1612.[1]
  • A Pastoral Charge at the Triennial Visitation of the Bishop of Exon. at Barnstaple, 1616.[1]
  • Christ's Larum Bell of Love resounded, 1616.[1]
  • The Conscionable Christian, three sermons preached before the judges of the circuit in 1620, London, 1623.[1]

His learning is praised by Charles Fitzgeoffry in his Affaniae, and two letters addressed to him by Degory Wheare in 1603 and 1621 are in the Epistolae Eucharistice with Wheare's Pietas erga Benefactores, 1628. Some verses by Carpenter are printed in the Funebre Officium in Memoriam Elizabethae Angliae reginae of the University of Oxford, 1603, and in the collection (Pietas erga Jacobum Angliae regem) with which that body in the same year welcomed the new king.[6]

Issue

The children of Richard and Susanna Carpenter were:[16]

  1. Susanna Carpenter baptized Nettlecombe, 28 Oct. 1607. [17] Named eldest daughter in August 9, 1625 will of father Richard Carpenter [16].
  2. John Carpenter, b. say 1608. Named in August 9, 1625 will of father Richard Carpenter [16] as student at Exeter College, Oxon.
  3. Mary Carpenter b. say 1610. Named in August 9, 1625 will of father Richard Carpenter [16]
  4. Richard Carpenter b. say 1612. Named in August 9, 1625 will of father Richard Carpenter [16]
  5. Ann Carpenter b. say1614. Named as third daughter in August 9, 1625 will of father Richard Carpenter [16]
  6. Elizabeth Carpenter, b. say 1616. Named as fourth daughter in August 9, 1625 will of father Richard Carpenter [16]
  7. Edward Carpenter b. say 1618. Named as third son in August 9, 1625 will of father Richard Carpenter [16]
  8. Sarah Carpenter b. say 1620. Named as 5th daughter in August 9, 1625 will of father Richard Carpenter [16]
  9. Thomas Carpenter b. say 1622. Named as 4th son and youngest child in August 9, 1625 will of father Richard Carpenter [16]

I don't know what evidence exists for a William Carpenter having a son Richard somewhere in Somerset in 1580. The lack of any specific date or place suggests that there isn't any. If there was any such Richard, there is nothing to link him with Dr Richard Carpenter the theologian, who married Susan Trevelyan.

It's unlikely that any Richard Carpenter died at Ilchester in August 1625, since a Richard Carpenter-5588 of Amesbury, Wilts also died at that time: confusion is sadly much more common than coincidence.)

Research Notes

There are several Richard Carpenters who are often confused but should not be!

Associated with Trevillian

Associated with Providence

  • Richard Carpenter [18] Amesbury, Wiltshire, father of William Carpenter[9] of Providence, Rhode Island.

Other

  • 1578 Richard Carpenter-2093, b. 1578. No documentation. m. Susan P. Jeffrey May 10 1599 Plymouth, Devon. No children.
  • 1580 Richard Carpenter-5588 No documentation. b. Amesbury 1580. Spouse unknown. father of William Carpenter-5593, b. England Nov 23, 1600
  • Richard Carpenter (vicar of Poling). This Richard was at Kings College, Cambridge, in 1622, twice lived in Europe for a few years and was vicar of Poling from 1635 to about 1642. He married in middle age and finally settled not in Amesbury but Aylesbury, in Buckinghamshire, where he died about 1670. [19]

Several Richard Carpenters are easily confused. Richard Carpenter, Theologian, is:

  • Not Richard Carpenter of Amesbury, Wiltshire, father of William Carpenter of Providence, Rhode Island. [1]
  • Not Richard Carpenter (vicar of Poling). This Richard was at Kings College, Cambridge, in 1622, twice lived in Europe for a few years and was vicar of Poling from 1635 to about 1642. He married in middle age and finally settled not in Amesbury but Aylesbury, in Buckinghamshire, where he died about 1670.[20]
  • Not William Carpenter-19 born about 1605 nor is it William Carpenter born abt 1610. Nor is this Richard Carpenter a parent of either William Carpenter. Note that Richard Carpenter-20, Theologian b. 1575, and who married Susanna Trivilian-1 in 1606 had no documented son William.
  • Not the William Carpenter who married Alice Knight on 7 August 1603. [21]
  • Providence Connections: What connection?
    • Richard Carpenter [22] Amesbury, Wiltshire, father of William Carpenter[9] of Providence, Rhode Island.

Ann Kent did not marry the Richard Carpenter who was born 1575 in Cornwall. [7]

Sources

  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 Wikipedia. Richard Carpenter (theologian). This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: "Carpenter, Richard (1575–1627)". Dictionary of National Biography. London: Smith, Elder & Co. 1885–1900. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Carpenter_(theologian). Accessed October 10, 2016
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 2.7 2.8 Exeter College Life Summary: Register of Exeter College,? Clark i. 213 Nat. Biog; citing Travelyan Papers (Camden Soc.) iii.p. XXV. (battels at that time); Drake 246; Reg. 16 July 1602 'dimidia pars pecuniarum mutuo concessa est M. Carpenter quas expensurus esset in novis extruendis musaeis supra cameram suam, quae inferiori parti sacelli ex adverso oppononitur; eadem prorsus conditione et lege qua antea 13o die Martii pecuniae mutuo datae sunt maistris Baskerville et Chambers aedificaturis"; and cited by Bruce E. Carpenter, 12 Oct 1999, Genforum http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/carpenter/5068/
  3. Additional data from Bruce E. Carpenter, Re:Trivilian vs. Knight - Will. Carpenter of Prov. By genealogy.com user John R Carpenter October 10, 2001 at 09:32:12, 10/02/01. Contributed by W. P. C. [William Prideaux Courtney, published 1866 based on these sources: (1) Wood's Athen Oxon. (Bliss), ii. 418; (2) Boase's Reg. of Exeter Coll. pp. 52-3, 210; (3) Boase and Courtney's Bibl. Cornub. pp. 63, 1115; (4) Trevelyan Papers, pt. iii. (Camden Soc. 1872), pp. xxvi, 77, 84, 110-12, 138-40; (5) Arber's Stationers' Registers, iii. 496, 596, iv. 81.
  4. Phillack Parish Registers (transcr.), baptisms 1560–1579, online at Ancestry.com. Cited by Wikipedia. Richard Carpenter (theologian). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Carpenter_(theologian). Accessed October 10, 2016
  5. freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com"
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 6.5 6.6 6.7 "Carpenter, Richard (1575–1627)". Dictionary of National Biography. London: Smith, Elder & Co. 1885–1900. Cited by Wikipedia. Richard Carpenter (theologian). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Carpenter_(theologian). Accessed October 10, 2016
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 John R. Carpenter, La Mesa, CA, cited at http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/carpenter/5068/
  8. PCC Wills (see note 1); Abstracts of Somersetshire Wills, 2:110. Cited by Wikipedia.
  9. PCC Wills (see note 1); Abstracts of Somersetshire Wills, 2:110.
  10. "Carpenter Chronicles", Page 13, Vol. 4, 1990, by Bette Butcher Topp.
  11. Prerogative Court of Canterbury (PCC) Wills, __ (quire no. between 1 and 63) Barrington; PROB 11/153, at British National Archives (digital images available for online purchase and immediate download at Documents Online, National Archives website). See also Abstracts of Somersetshire Wills, etc., Copied from the Manuscript Collections of the Late Rev. Frederick Brown, transcr. Frederick Arthur Crisp, vol. 2 (London, 1888), 109. Cited by Wikipedia. Richard Carpenter (theologian). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Carpenter_(theologian). Accessed October 10, 2016
  12. Prerogative Court of Canterbury (PCC) Wills, __ (quire no. between 1 and 63) Barrington; PROB 11/153, at British National Archives (digital images available for online purchase and immediate download at Documents Online, National Archives website). See also Abstracts of Somersetshire Wills, etc., Copied from the Manuscript Collections of the Late Rev. Frederick Brown, transcr. Frederick Arthur Crisp, vol. 2 (London, 1888), 109. Cited by Wikipedia.
  13. Somerset Wills" 11.109 cited by "The Arnold Memorial, William Arnold of Providence and Pawtuxet, 1587-1675, and a Genealogy of His Descendants", compiled by Elisha Stephen Arnold, 1935. The Tuttle Publishing Company, Rutland, VT. cited by John R. Carpenter, 15 March, 2000, at http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/carpenter/5068/
  14. 14.0 14.1 14.2 14.3 14.4 14.5 14.6 14.7 14.8 {{Red|Once assigned to Richard Carpenter (b. abt 1575) of Amesbury who married Alice Knight and who many erroneously believed to have married Susanna Trivilian.
  15. Amesbury Parish Index and Transcript - Burials 1579-1636 cited by John R. Carpenter
  16. 16.0 16.1 16.2 16.3 16.4 16.5 16.6 16.7 16.8 16.9 PCC Wills (see (see note 1); Abstracts of Somersetshire Wills, 2:109. The will of Richard Carpenter, dated 9 August 1625 and proved 17 February 1627[/8], names wife Susan, daughter of John Trevelian Esq. of Nettlecombe; son John, student at Exeter College, Oxford; eldest daughter Susan; daughter Mary; son Richard; third daughter Ann; fourth daughter Elizabeth; third son Edward; fifth daughter Sarah; fourth son and youngest child Thomas; brother John Carpenter of Salisbury; and sisters Jane, Ann, and Agnes. Cited by Wikipedia. Richard Carpenter (theologian). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Carpenter_(theologian). Accessed October 10, 2016
  17. Susanna Carpenter baptism listing, International Genealogical Index, citing computer printout [Family History Library, Salt Lake City, film #820,766, item 14] extracted from Edward Dwelly, ed., Dwelly's Parish Records: Bishop's Transcripts at Wells, vol. 2 (1914). Cited by Wikipedia. Richard Carpenter (theologian). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Carpenter_(theologian). Accessed October 10, 2016
  18. Phillack Parish Registers (transcr.), baptisms 1560–1579, online at Ancestry.com, cited by Wikipedia, Richard Carpenter, Theologian.
  19. Zubrinsky, Eugene Cole, FASG, Richard Carpenter of Amesbury, Wiltshire, Prepared for the Carpenter Sketches, 2008, accessed 9 June 2010, cited in Wikipedia, Richard Carpenter, Theologian.
  20. Zubrinsky, Eugene Cole, FASG, "Richard Carpenter of Amesbury, Wiltshire", Prepared for the Carpenter Sketches, 2008, accessed 9 June 2010. Cited by Wikipedia. Richard Carpenter (theologian). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Carpenter_(theologian). Accessed October 10, 2016
  21. Per Mr. W.A. Lyons of the Post Office in Newton Tony, Wiltshire, England, per letter 18 Mar. 1997 citing The Marriage Register for Newton Tony cited by John R. Carpenter.
  22. Phillack Parish Registers (transcr.), baptisms 1560–1579, online at Ancestry.com, cited by Wikipedia, Richard Carpenter, Theologian.
  • "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," Database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J9SN-VQ3 : accessed 15 June 2015), Baptism entry for Susanna Carpenter, 28 Oct 1607; citing NETTLECOMBE,SOMERSET,ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 95,273.

Richard Carpenter of Amesbury, Wiltshire. http://www.carpentercousins.com/RichardA_Amesbury.pdf

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WARNING! - No relation!

This Richard Carpenter was not the Richard Carpenter[8] of Amesbury, Wiltshire, father of William Carpenter[9] of Providence, Rhode Island.

Nor should he be confused with Richard Carpenter (vicar of Poling). This Richard was at Kings College, Cambridge, in 1622, twice lived in Europe for a few years and was vicar of Poling from 1635 to about 1642. He married in middle age and finally settled not in Amesbury but Aylesbury, in Buckinghamshire, where he died about 1670.[10] SEE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Carpenter_(theologian)#Family

Find A Grave entry for Rev. Richard Carpenter See: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/206490609/richard-carpenter

For information of the Rehoboth, MA and Providence, RI William Carpenters (yes 2 different Williams who can be told apart by Y-DNA testing) - READ: https://carpentercousins.com/carplink.htm This is part of the Carpenter Cousins web page at: https://carpentercousins.com

posted by John R Carpenter
Carpenter-18120 and Carpenter-20 appear to represent the same person because: Carpenter-18120 appears to be an incomplete duplicate version of the original Carpenter-20. Spouse and child entry also need merged with their respective matches.
posted by Kinsey (Oleman) Grace
Did Post-merge edits and changes based on notes. RH, I don't understand some of the brackets you put in, but I left them.

Any references to Amesbury or Wiltshire should be under Disambiguation and refer to the other Carpenter groups. That portion including "Caution" still needs work. That's where possible future merges or non-merges need to be identified.

posted by Jack Day
I rewrote the Wikipedia article in Oct 2008. Please use that as a guide for clean up, adding spouse and children.

The children of Richard and Susanna Carpenter were:[6] 1) Susanna Carpenter, bp. Nettlecombe, 28 Oct 1607.[7] 2) John Carpenter, b. ca. 1608. 3) Mary Carpenter, b. say 1610. 4) Richard Carpenter, b. say 1612. 5) Ann Carpenter, b. say 1614. 6) Elizabeth Carpenter, b. say 1616. 7) Edward Carpenter, b. say 1618. 8) Sarah Carpenter, b. say 1620. 9) Thomas Carpenter, b. say 1622.

This Richard Carpenter was not the Richard Carpenter[8] of Amesbury, Wiltshire, father of William Carpenter[9] of Providence, Rhode Island.

posted by John R Carpenter
Carpenter-19 and Carpenter-7698 do not represent the same person because: 2 different people - This has been discussed before. Briefly, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Carpenter_(theologian) and compare http://carpentercousins.com/carplink.htm (William b. abt 1605)
posted by John R Carpenter
This entry 7698 has so many problems it needs to be deleted. Do not merge junk.

Any merge will cause erroneous data to creep back in better genealogy.

posted by John R Carpenter
They are obviously the same person; the unsourced errors should be fixed. Same for Abigail -- the one with errors has no sources. Merges would allow corrections to both.
posted by Nan (Lambert) Starjak
Carpenter-5881 and Carpenter-20 are not ready to be merged because: unmatching info
There are several Richard Carpenters which are mixed up. Until the mess is resolved, recommend no merges.
posted by Jack Day
Carpenter-5881 and Carpenter-20 appear to represent the same person because: Hello, these appear to be duplicate profiles of the same individual and should be merged based on the vital statistic data. Thank you.
Oops, this profile is horribly scrambled. Richard Carpenter, the theologian and husband of Susanna Trivilian, is a completely different person from this Richard Carpenter. Maybe it was a bad merge, but now it's a mess :-(
posted by [Living Schmeeckle]
Carpenter-20 and Carpenter-149 appear to represent the same person because: same person
posted by M (McQueen) M