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William Carpenter (abt. 1575 - aft. 1640)

William Carpenter
Born about in Wiltshire, Berkshire, or Hampshire, Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married before 1605 in Wiltshire, Berkshire, or Hampshire, Englandmap [uncertain]
Descendants descendants
Died after after about age 65 in Weymouth, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap [uncertain]
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The Puritan Great Migration.
William Carpenter migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Directory, by R. C. Anderson, p. 57)
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Disputed Spouse

Mary Batt was previously attached as an additional spouse, without source. That claim appears to confuse this William Carpenter with a different man of the same name. See Research Notes.

Biography

William Carpenter represents the earliest immigrant generation for this family.[1] He is typically referred to as William Carpenter of Shalbourne and, more recently, of Weymouth to distinguish him from his son, William Carpenter (abt.1605-1658) of Rehoboth, and from William1 Carpenter of Providence. Based on ages given in certain records (see Birth, below), he was born about 1575. He was from the parish of Shalbourne, on the Wiltshire/Berkshire border and very near that of Hampshire. The Bevis passenger list shows him and his son, William2, as being of "Horwell" (i.e., Wherwell, Hampshire, a center of religious dissent), presumably where the family had lingered only long enough for each man to obtain from sympathetic authorities the certificate of conformity necessary for the family to leave England. William1's baptismal record has not been found; he was likely born in Wiltshire, Berkshire, or Hampshire.

His parents and ancestry are not known. A couple of possibilities exist: a William Carpenter, son of Henry Carpenter, was baptized about thirty miles north of Shalbourne in the parish of Great Coxwell, Berkshire (now in Oxfordshire), on 5 May 1576. About the same distance south-southwest of Shalbourne in Salisbury, Wiltshire, a William Carpenter, probable son of Thomas Carpenter, was baptized in the parish church of St. Thomas the Martyr on 1 May 1571. (This William has been disconnected from Robert Carpenter of Marden, Wiltshire, among whose legatees was a son William, and his wife Eleanor Reade.) Evidence that either of these baptisms belong to the eventual William1 Carpenter of Shalbourne and Weymouth has not been found.

William1 became a copyholder on Westcourt Manor, Shalbourne, in 1608. The renewal of his copyhold, dated 22 June 1614, also named his son, the eventual William2 of Rehoboth. The latter man married Abigail Briant in Shalbourne and had five children baptized there. The names and vital-event dates in Shalbourne church records match known facts of the family in Massachusetts, thereby confirming that the Shalbourne family became the Carpenters of Weymouth and Rehoboth.

An Alice Carpenter was buried in Shalbourne on 25 January 1637[/8]. This was a little over three months before William Carpenter sailed on the Bevis with his son and the latter's family but with no wife of his own. While it is tempting to conclude that Alice had been his wife, there is nothing of substance to support this (see Research Notes, Disputed Spouse, below)..

Not until after William had departed Southampton on the Bevis were the ship's passengers formally recorded. Dated 2 May 1638, when they had been "some Days gone to sea," the passenger list named the Carpenter party as consisting of William Carpenter and William Carpenter Jun., both of "Horwell," carpenters, 62 and 33, respectively; Abigail Carpenter, 32; four children (unnamed) 10 and under; and Tho[mas] Banshott, servant, 14.[2]

Birth

Born about 1575 (see records below). In that Shalbourne then straddled the Wiltshire–Berkshire line and was/is only four miles from that of Hampshire, it is likely that William1 was born in one of these counties.
Aged 40 in Westcourt Manor record of copyhold renewal dated 22 June 1614.
Aged 62 on the Bevis passenger list, dated 2 May 1638.

Death

Died after late 1640 or early 1640/1, perhaps in Weymouth.
Until March 2023, the latest known record of William was the aforementioned Bevis passenger list. His son, William, was admitted a Massachusetts Bay Colony freeman from Weymouth on 13 May 1640 without his father being mentioned, suggesting to some that the elder William may have died before then. However, "Willim" Carpenter—in a hand easily distinguished from that of his namesake son—signed as one of the appraisers of the estate inventory of Henry Butterworth of Weymouth, taken not long before 28 January 1640/1.[3]

Research Notes

Disputed Origins

The English origin of William Carpenter was published in The American Genealogist in 1995. Research by the same author, Eugene Cole Zubrinsky FASG, has continued up until the present time on behalf of the Carpenter Cousins Project, John R. Carpenter administrator. All work prior to 1995 should be considered out-of-date and suspect. In particular, the Carpenter Memorial, published in 1898 (see "See Also" section), should be used with great caution, as it contains numerous errors and incorrect guesses as to the origins of the Rehoboth Carpenters. The claim that William1 Carpenter was from London, for example, is certainly incorrect.

Disputed Spouse

Mary Batt was previously attached as an additional spouse, without source. Despite her proper dismissal, uncertainty continues to surround the matter of William1's wife. The following discussion of this issue—as with virtually the entirety of this page's content—is taken from Eugene Cole Zubrinsky, "William Carpenter of Newtown, Shalbourne, Wiltshire, and Weymouth, Massachusetts" (Ojai, Calif., 2008; rev. 28 March 2023), online at https://www.carpentercousins.com/Wm1_Shalbourne.pdf.
William1’s having emigrated only three months after the death of Alice Carpenter, who was buried in Shalbourne on 25 January 1637[/8], might be interpreted to suggest that she had been his wife (though not necessarily William2’s mother); it is possible, of course, that she was an unmarried sister or daughter (TAG 70:194–95).
A William Carpenter married Alice Swithen in St. Denys Church, parish of Warminster, Wiltshire, 14 January 160[4/]5 (WarPaR [image 111]). “Luis” [Louise?] (not Lillis, as indexed at familysearch.org) Carpenter, daughter of William Carpenter, was baptized at Warminster St. Denys 26 December 1607 and was buried there 11 August 1609 (WarPaR [images 59, 190]). By the latter date, William1 had been in Shalbourne for more than a year (see RESIDENCES section, below). It is possible that the child had been returned from Shalbourne for burial, but available records fail to support such a hypothesis.
Two other Warminster marriages in which the groom was named William Carpenter preceded the aforementioned one: on 2 December 1596 William Carpenter married Elinor Hunt, whose burial (as “Edeth” Carpenter, repeating the forename of the preceding entry) almost certainly occurred on 22 September 1597 (WarPaR [images 108, 180]); and on 11 July 1603 William Carpenter married Jane [Edwards] (WarPaR [image 110]). Elizabeth, daughter of William (and presumably Jane) Carpenter, was baptized in Warminster 26 October 1604 and probably married Richard Whittaker there 9 April 1632 (WarPaR [images 56, 118]). The only William Carpenter whose Warminster baptismal date raises the possibility that he married either or both Jane Edwards and Alice Swithen (but not Elinor Hunt) received the sacrament on 25 November 1582 as the son of Hugh Carpenter (WarPaR [image 31]). While the man of that name buried in Warminster 19 December 1616 might well have been the husband of Alice (Swithen), no ancillary records are found to verify it (see WarPaR [image 195]). (Baptized in Warminster 19 December 1562, William Carpenter “of the Laynes,” hamlet of Bugley, was buried in Warminster 27 March 1625; on 29 January 1581[/2] he had married there Dorothie Batt, who survived him [WarPaR (images 11, 103, 202); CCS Probate, admin. bond].) No Warminster baptismal record of a William Carpenter is any nearer to 1575 (William1’s calculated birth year) than that of 1582, above.
The foregoing facts neither confirm nor refute that Alice Swithen was the wife of William1 of Shalbourne, but they tend toward the latter. It should be remembered that his relationship to the Alice Carpenter buried there is uncertain. But even if we accept for argument’s sake that she was his wife, the only evidence pointing toward her having been the former Alice Swithen is matching, popular forenames; relative proximity of Shalbourne and Warminster (36–40 miles); and a marriage date compatible with the approximate birth year (1605) of William1 Carpenter’s only known child (see CHILDREN section, below). This falls far short of the Genealogical Proof Standard (see BCG).
A William Carpenter married at St. Thomas the Martyr, Salisbury, Wiltshire, 18 April 1605, Mary Bath (not Batt) (WiltPaR 5:22). Christopher Batt, a tanner of [New] Sarum (i.e., Salisbury), Wiltshire, was one of the Carpenters’ fellow passengers on the Bevis. Records of the Batt family of Salisbury indicate that he and a Mary Batt of appropriate age (baptized at St. Thomas 7 Aug. 1584, daughter of Richard and Agnes (Danyell) Batt) “would be no more than distant cousins” (NEHGR 14:336; Martin, citing NEHGR 51:181–88, 348–57, 52:44–51, 321–22). It seems likely that this William Carpenter had been the infant of that name baptized at St. Thomas on 1 May 1571 (see BIRTH section, above), and that he remained a Salisbury resident. Evidence that Mary Bath was the eventual wife of William1 Carpenter of Shalbourne has not been found.

Sources

Footnotes and citations:
  1. Eugene Cole Zubrinsky, "The Family of William2 Carpenter of Rehoboth, Massachusetts: With the English Origin of the Rehoboth Carpenters," American Genealogist 70(1995):193-204.
  2. "Bevis Passenger List," New England Historical and Genealogical Register 14(1860):336–37.
  3. Eugene Cole Zubrinsky, "William Carpenter of Newtown, Shalbourne, Wiltshire, and Weymouth, Massachusetts," (2008; rev. 28 Mar 2023), 2-3, online at Carpenter's Encyclopedia of Carpenters, (https://carpentercousins.com/Wm1_Shalbourne.pdf : accessed 2 Apr 2023).
See also:
  • Amos B[ugbee] Carpenter, Carpenter Memorial, formal title A Genealogical History of the Rehoboth Branch [sic] of the Carpenter Family in America (Amherst, Mass., 1898), brings forward from claimed English ancestor John Carpenter, 1303, "with many biographical notes of descendants and allied families" English Ancestry beginning page 1. This volume should be used with extreme caution; it is rife with errors and unsupported assertions.
  • Eugene Cole Zubrinsky, "The Family of William2 Carpenter of Rehoboth, Massachusetts: With the English Origin of the Rehoboth Carpenters," American Genealogist 70(1995):193–204.
  • "Founders of New England: Bevis Passenger List," New England Historical and Genealogical Register 14(1860):336-37 AmericanAncestors.org link.
  • Ezra S. Stearns, Genealogical and Family History of the State of New Hampshire 4 vols. (New York, 1908), 2:584.
  • England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906: Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date:2008; Genealogical Society of Utah, British Isles Vital Records Index, 2ndEdition, Salt Lake City, Utah: Intellectual Reserve, copyright 2002
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  • Ancestry.com: Title: Public Member Trees: Publication: Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date:2006;
  • Heinsohn, Robert Jennings, PhD, SMDPA. The Carpenter Sisters of Leiden (Sail1620.org)) 22 Dec 2004 DOCL Cushman Surname: Dillen




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I have a question that is going to irritate you guys, but is this Carpenter line related to the one listed in the 1623 Visitation of Wiltshire? I see no reference to it here; however, I feel somebody must have at least scanned that information at some point. What's the story with that?
posted by BB Sahm
Strangely this article on William Carpenter (b. abt 1575 - d. aft Jan 1640/1641) does not even hint at the Y-DNA research done of the last two decades by descendants of his son William Carpenter (b. abt 1605).

As we all know Y-DNA is passed down from the biological father to all of his sons. This Y-DNA is virtually the same of the generations and it is excellent in surname studies.

The Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project has Y-DNA test results from 110 descendants of William Carpenter (b. 1605) and by default his father. This is called Group 3.

Most of the Y-DNA descendants have genetic and genealogical triangulations while others have genetic matching with partial genealogical linages.

See: https://carpentercousins.com/carpdna.htm - Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project.

https://carpentercousins.com/carpdna.htm#toc006 - Group 2 and Group 3 discussion including the three (3) genetic differences found in 111 Y-DNA markers called Y-STRs.

https://carpentercousins.com/carpdna.htm#table1 - Table 1 shoes the first 37 Y-DNA markers and other tables show markers up to 111. Scroll down to Group 3 - please notice colors of the various groups.

https://carpentercousins.com/generallineage.htm - General lineage page - Use the link to Group 3 - This drop down lineage starts with William Carpenter (b. 1605) and shows how those taking Y-DNA tests are related to others. The detached part of Group 3 is just below. By the way the blue text shows mutations to the group mean.

John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA USA https://carpentercousins.com

posted by John R Carpenter
John, The best way to have this yDNA test information displayed on this profile is to have all of those test takers create profiles for themselves on WikiTree, add their yDNA test information, and add profiles for at least their male Carpenter line to connect themselves back to this William Carpenter. For each one who does that, their yDNA test information will be displayed on the profile of all the related Carpenter men.

The profile for your ancestor, Chancey Carpenter-20789, was not connected to his father, Jedediah Carpenter-7487. I connected them, then discovered a duplicate profile for Chauncy Carpenter-7486, which needs to be merged with Carpenter-20789. Now that they're connected to Jedediah, within 24 hours, your yDNA test should be displayed on this profile for William Carpenter.

Please let me know if you don't understand, or if I can help.

posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Kay,

I am not going to enter 110 descendant and lineages of the Carpenter Rehoboth line. Nor of the about 390 other Y-DNA members who did Y-DNA testing onto Wiki Tree. Some of them are now deceased and getting permission from each one still living would be very time extensive.

Trying to recreate a long term project on Wiki Tree is not feasible. See: https://carpentercousins.com

Wiki-Tree has some oddities regarding Y-DNA tracking. I have fought and lost that game years ago. The best, IMHO, is to reference a professionally run citizen science project that has been around for over 20 years

I appreciate your linking my Chauncy Carpenter to the Chancey Carpenter duplicate. Please note the name difference. My name version is from the 1923 Commemorative Biographical Record, page 772 that records his name in the bio of Elnathan Carpenter. And also on the Chauncy Carpenter death record of 3/22/1878. Yes, other versions are used in various records.

I added my research notes to the record. Feel free to format as you wish.

I sent you a private message also on how to use the online descendant report that includes Chauncy. I also approved my portion of the merge.

FYI - That Group 3 descendant report online - aka the Rehoboth Carpenter line contains only about 84K of descendants.

I am now a bit older and not as young as I once was. I hope you understand.

John R. Carpenter

PS Are you aware of WeRelate.org? A few example links. https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:William_Carpenter_%285%29 https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Source:Zubrinsky%2C_Eugene._Carpenter_Sketches https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Repository:Carpenters%27_Encyclopedia_of_Carpenters

I am showing these links to simply show that Wiki Tree is not the only on line genealogy forum on line. My efforts years ago on these many forums provided some of the best information then known. Since, many, if not most have devolved over time. I simply no longer have the time or energy to fix or defend against gran mother's genealogy, older books with errors. Or how Y-DNA (and other DNA tests) that changed many of the speculated lines that often were without documentation and sometimes bizarre lines found on the various One World Trees.

posted by John R Carpenter
In March of 2023 - Gene Zubrinsky found evidence of William1 Shalbourne being alive about Jan 1640/1641 in Weymouth. This should now put an end to undocumented stories of him returning to England or dying enroute to America in 1638.

For details please see the updates to the Carpenter Sketches for him (William1) and his son William2 of Rehoboth. See: https://carpentercousins.com/carplink.htm

posted by John R Carpenter
Attached wife Alice died in 1637 at Shalbourne. THere is a death for an ALice Carpenter at Shalbourne in 1637, it could possibly be a daughter or it could be William's wife. Either way the second marriage to Mary listed in 1605 looks wrong.

Ann

posted by Ann Browning
Do you think the marriage to Mary is just a name conflation? It doesn't look like there is any record of this William being married to anyone other than Alice and Zubrinsky in the 1995 TAG article mentions no wife other than Alice with the same uncertainty that she died in 1637 just pre-emigration.
posted by Brad Stauf
This is addressed by Zubrinsky:

"A William Carpenter married at St. Thomas the Martyr, Salisbury, Wiltshire, 18 April 1605, Mary "Bath" (not Batt, as per various informal sources) (WiltPaR 5:22). Christopher Batt, a tanner of [New] Sarum (i.e., Salisbury), Wiltshire, was one of the Carpenters' fellow passengers on the _Bevis_. Records of the Batt family of Salisbury, however, indicate that he and a Mary Batt of appropriate age (baptized at St. Thomas 7 Aug. 1584, daughter of Richard and Agnes (Danyell) Batt) "would be no more than distant cousins" (NEHGR 14:336; Martin, citing NEHGR 51:181-88, 348-57, 52:44-51, 321-22). It has not been established that William1 Carpenter was the man of that name who married Mary Bath."

posted by Joe Cochoit
Joe - where is this quote from Zubrinsky coming from? I was going to detach Mary and add a Research Note to this and her profile explaining the error, but I can't find this quote in the 1995 TAG article. Am I just missing it or is coming from somewhere else?
posted by Scott McClain
It comes from the Carpenter Cousins website which keeps his most recent research and updates.

Zubrinsky, Eugene Cole, FASG. "William1 Carpenter of Newtown, Shalbourne, Wiltshire (Bevis, 1638)", available at Carpenter Cousins website. (Last revised 4 April 2018 ). See also page Group 3 - Descendants of William Carpenter: Notes.

posted by Joe Cochoit
edited by Joe Cochoit
The entire 12 Carpenter Sketches done by Eugene Cole Zubrinsky can be accessed by the link on the top left side of the following page. https://carpentercousins.com

This is in addition to what Joe Cochoit wrote in July 2022.

posted by John R Carpenter
Yes I think so and think she needs detaching. I couldn’t find anything on a Mary.

Ann

posted by Ann Browning
Could be his marriage

First name(s) William Last name Carpenter Birth year - Marriage year 1605 Marriage date 14 Jan 1605 Place Warminster, St Denis County Wiltshire Country England Spouse's first name(s) Alice Spouse's last name Swithen Record set Wiltshire Marriages Index 1538-1933 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain

posted by Ann Browning
Ann,

FYI - The names you cite tell me you have seen the data I published back in 2001. (aka Carpenters' Encyclopedia of Carpenters - a two CD set) .

Since then we have started a Y-DNA Project, Carpenter Cousins Genealogical research and English Will research. And in the 2009 version of the same name (a 2 DVD set), I took pains to describe the why the claimed English line was cut in the 1500s. Simply an English Will that was translated incorrectly back in 1976.

I am amazed one of the old links still work. See: https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/c/a/r/John-R-Carpenter/FILE/0043page.html The following one is better. Please note the term "Pruning" in the CE 2009 DVD section. https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Repository:Carpenters%27_Encyclopedia_of_Carpenters

And no, I am not on Wiki Tree very often.

John R. Carpenter https://carpentercousins.com

posted by John R Carpenter
I have Robert and Eleanore as his parents William and Elizabeth as Roberts but Williams father as Robert Carpenter 1490 and from there going up the Carpenter line Richard 1470 William Carpentier( changes to French spelling) 1440 Homme, England his father Jean Carpentier 1410 his father Richard Le Carpentier son of Maurice Le Carpentier immigrated from Leper Belgium to Glouchestershire GB if this is not the correct line for u how do I disconnect it from this line so I can enter the correct line for me ty Elizabeth Carpentier Peck is my gggggg? grandma
posted by Renee Denn
Renee, you have probably been misled by the 1898 "Carpenter Memorial" https://archive.org/details/genealogicalhist00carp/page/n19/mode/2up which asserts a variety of untrue and unsupported things including William's parentage and a London origin. As you can see on this profile, WikiTree tries to rely on actual primary sources or at least well supported and peer-reviewed secondary sources when necessary.

Best of luck with your research!

posted by Brad Stauf
Looking at the updates to the Zubrinsky article, I'm not sure that the current parents are proven, and probably should be mentioned in the bio, but not attached. see https://www.carpentercousins.com/Wm1_Shalbourne.pdf
The will of Robert Carpenter of Marden, Wiltshire, dated 12 January 1606[/7?] and proved 21 May 1607, names (among others) adult sons William and Richard. It has been claimed that these brothers were William1 Carpenter (father of William2 of Rehoboth) and Richard Carpenter of Amesbury, Wiltshire (father of William1 of Providence, R.I.). While it is not impossible that William1 of Shalbourne was the son of Robert of Marden, evidence of it has not been found; it is unlikely that Richard of Amesbury was Robert’s son. Genetic testing of agnate descendants of William of Shalbourne and Richard of Amesbury has established with a high degree of probability that the two were in fact related but far more remotely than generally believed. For more-detailed discussions of these matters, see NEHGR 159 (2005):64–66, 67n63; William2 of Rehoboth sketch...
posted by M Cole
This is correct. The current parents represent old research which is no longer accepted. Disconnecting.
posted by Joe Cochoit
This profile is in need of significant (post-merge?) cleanup. There are two duplicate bios that appear to be copy/pasted from another source (not allowed on wikitree). Would one of the profile managers or Trusted List members like to take this on?
posted by Jillaine Smith
Looking at the GM Directory, it says nothing about this William Carpenter (who arrived on the ‘’Brevis’’) dying in England. What is the source for his death place?
posted by Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
edited by Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
He does not appear in Moore's "Abandoning America", and the Bio indicates that he died at Weymouth, Massachusetts Bay... although the reference source offered is just an online tree.
posted by Christopher Childs
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Hi i think i am related to William but i am new to this so does anybody know anyone that could help me find out for sure?
posted by [deleted]
Hi David,

Thank you for posting on David Carpenter's profile. If you are interested in working with the PGM Project, please visit your Tags and Comments page to add some information.

After you have made your changes, click the Save Tag(s) and Volunteer, then we can get you confirmed. Don't worry, you would only be volunteering to abide by our community guidelines and add profiles for your family.

Debi

P.S. If the links in the email do not work, use the ones in the comment section of your profile

posted by Debi (McGee) Hoag
David, if you put what you know for certain on wikitree we could try and connect you to your immigrant ancestor.
posted by Joe Cochoit
This William, Carpenter-201 has father listed as Robert, not John?
posted by Chris Hoyt
Sent to PGM via private msg:

I have been researching my ancestry using: A genealogical history of the Rehoboth branch of the Carpenter family in America, etc. by Amos B. Carpenter. Published 1898 by Carpenter & Morehouse in Amherst, Mass .

It matches WikiTree exactly with the exception of William's father. The book shows four William's in succession: William 1510-1587 (son of John 1495-1540), William 1520- , William 1576-1638 (Bevis) and William 1605-1659.

WikiTree shows the father of William (Carpenter-201) as John. Can you help me resolve this discrepancy please? Do you have a birth record or other evidence you could send me to show that John is indeed his father?

I would appreciate any help you can give me. Thanks!

posted by Anne B
Kenneth, that William Carpenter is not certain to be the William Carpenter of this profile, and is considered possible but unlikely. Mary Bath needs to be disconnected as his wife.
posted by Joe Cochoit
Here is a source for the marriage of William Carpenter and Mary Bath:

"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVDL-JZF : 10 February 2018), William Carpenter and Mary Bath, 18 Apr 1605; citing Saint Thomas, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England, reference , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 1,279,310.

posted by Kenneth Kinman
There was no wife Mary Batt and Alice is uncertain. One known child of William Sr. Was William Jr. Please see current, excellent research — Eugene Cole Zubrinsky, "William1 Carpenter of Newtown, Shalbourne, Wiltshire (Bevis, 1638)" (2008; last revised 2 June 2017), online at http://www.carpentercousins.com/Wm1_Shalbourne.pdf
posted by Sara Mosher
This doesn't make sense. If Alice died in 1637, why would William have married again in 1611? Second wife was supposedly John's mother, but he was born in 1601.
posted by [Living Wolf]
Carpenter-3411 and Carpenter-201 appear to represent the same person because: same person
posted by Summer (Binkley) Orman
Carpenter-4218 and Carpenter-201 appear to represent the same person because: same person
posted by [Living McQueen]
They are and can be merged.
I cleaned up and reorganized the BIO section for this gentleman. Still needs a little work, and also, if you all get the opportunity, check out the spouses. I don't know if the two Alice's are the same without delving into research, but perhaps some of you do.  :)
posted by [Living Lockhart]

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