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Nicholas Carr (bef. 1582 - bef. 1659)

Nicholas Carr
Born before in Maidstone, Kent, Englandmap
Son of and [mother unknown]
Husband of — married 8 Sep 1608 in Stepney, Middlesex, Englandmap
Husband of — married 8 Dec 1639 in Maidstone, Kent, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Father of and
Died before at about age 77 in Maidstone, Kent, Englandmap
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Biography

Robert Carr, age 21 (b. c. 1614), and Caleb Carr, age 11 (b.c. 1624), sailed together to New England in 1635[1] Their relationship is established in Robert's will (1681). Robert names his brother Caleb as executor. Caleb's will (1689/90) refers to land owned by his brother Robert.[2]

Their father was Nicholas Carr of Maidstone, Kent, who among other children had sons Robert, baptized 18 July 1613, and Caleb, baptized 23 Nov 1623. Caleb Carr, the immigrant, had a wife Mercy. Robert and Caleb's stepsister Mercy Roby was married to Caleb Carr, in England, 21 Mar 1652/3. Mercy and Caleb named their first son Nicholas. They also had a granddaughter named Robey Carr.[3]

All previous attempts, unproven and unsourced, to name the parents of immigrants Robert and Caleb should now be set aside. They were not the sons of Benjamin, son of Sir William Kerr as stated in The Carr Family Records[4]


Nicholas Carr, son of Robert Carr, was baptized 2 August 1582 at Maidstone, Kent.[3]

He married twice. (1) 8 Sep 1608 at St. Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, Middlesex, to Margaret (Carr) Nelman, widow of James Nelman and daughter of Cuthbert Carr. There is no known biological relationship between Nicholas and Margaret. Margaret was buried in Maidstone. 18 June 1631. Nicholas married (2) 8 Dec 1639, Maidstone, Margery (Parish) Roby, widow of Edward Roby. She died about 8 Feb 1665/6. An inventory of he estate was valued at £25 2s 5d.[3]

Nicholas was buried at Maidstone, 31 August 1659.[3]

Children baptized in Maidstone, Kent:[3]
By first wife Margaret Carr
  1. Jane Carr bpt 29 Nov. 1610; buried Maidstone 14 Nov 1628
  2. Robert Carr bpt 18 July 1613; immigrant to New England
  3. William Carr bpt 28 July 1615
  4. John Carr bpt 17 Mar 1617/8
  5. Nicholas Carr bpt 18 Feb 1619/20
  6. Caleb Carr bpt 23 Nov 1623; immigrant to New England
  7. Francis Carr bpt 14 Sep 1625
  8. Elizabeth Carr bpt 7 Feb 1629/30; bur. Maidstone 13 Sept 1638

    By second wife Margery Parish
  9. Ann Carr bpt July 1640.

Sources

  1. Hotten, John Camden (editor). The Original Lists of Persons of Quality: Emigrants, Religious Exiles, Political Rebels, Serving Men Sold for a Term of Years, Apprentices, Children Stolen, Maidens Pressed, and Others, who Went from Great Britain to the American Plantations, 1600-1700. London: John Camden Hotten, 1874. (p. 77)
  2. Fiske, Jane Fletcher. Gleanings from Newport Court Files 1659-1783. (Boxford, Massachusetts: 1998) Item #9
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 Robert Battle, "The English Origin of Robert Carr and Caleb Carr of Rhode Island" Rhode Island Roots, 48 (2022): 58-75.
  4. Carr, Edson I. The Carr Family Records Embacing [sic] the record of the first families who settled in America and their descendants, with many branches who came to this country at a later date (Rockton, Ill., Herald printing house, 1894) link to book at Archive p. 13
  • Robert Battle, "The English Origin of Robert Carr and Caleb Carr of Rhode Island" Rhode Island Roots, 48 (2022): 58-75.

See also: Remember, just because it's in print doesn't make it correct.

  • Ancestral File Number :: 9J6D-BD
  • England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name Benjamin Carr. Spouse Martha. Child Benjamin Carr
  • UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
  • New England Families, Genealogical and Memorial, A Record of the Achievements of Her People in the Making of Commonwealths and the Founding of a Nation Page 488
  • Adams, Arthur. Memoirs of the Deceased Members of the NEHGS, The New England Historical & Genealogical Register (New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, Mass., 1954) Vol. 108, Page 66






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Edited what I could, but I couldn't add or change anything WRT his relationships due to his protected status. His first wife (and mother of his two immigrant sons) was Margaret (Carr) Nelman (Carr-16485); his second wife was Margery (Parish) Roby (Parish-3067); and his father was Rev. Robert Carr (Carr-16487). He had other children as well, by both wives, but I didn't start new profiles for them.
posted by Robert Battle
Hi Robert, I take it you're the author of the RI Roots article. I don't have a subscription, and it won't be on American Ancestors for years. I'm going to send you a private message.
posted by Anne B
The Scottish hasn't been disproven either. The boys had to have had some means to travel to the new world without being indentured servants. There's still a question mark at the end? From what I understand, Benjamin made enemies with powerful people. His sons could have been sent to the new world, and the records could have purposely been made vague to protect them.
posted by Sacsap (Carr) P
edited by Sacsap (Carr) P
I think the point being made is that their origins are unknown, and no reliable, peer-reviewed source shows their relationship to Benjamin Carr. On WikiTree, we value sources which prove relationships, and at this point, there are none that have been uncovered by well-known genealogists, who - no doubt - have spent considerable time searching for reliable evidence.
posted by S (Hill) Willson
Dang, more late medieval ancestors I will now take out of my Family Tree Maker file! I'm new to WikiTree, but am already much appreciating the rigorous devotion to solid sources.

Maybe not "highborn" ancestors, but that's no great loss. Most nobility started out by being the medieval equivalents of the Godfather. But my Scottish DNA still feels "Carr" as a piece of that, Carr being a sept of Clan Kerr.

posted by David Finster
Carr-38 and Carr-10120 do not represent the same person because: Benjamin was believed to be father of Robert and Caleb, but this cannot be proved their father is Unknown
posted by Anne B

Rejected matches › Benjamin Carr (1592-1672)

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