no image
Privacy Level: Open (White)

Rosa Catharina Johanna Carstensen (1853 - 1911)

Rosa Catharina Johanna Carstensen aka Werner
Born in Hamburg, Hamburg, Germanymap
Wife of — married 28 Jan 1872 in Hoboken, Hudson, New Jersey, USAmap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 57 in San Francisco, San Francisco, California, United Statesmap
Problems/Questions Profile manager: Susan Marx private message [send private message]
Profile last modified | Created 21 Feb 2017
This page has been accessed 96 times.

Biography

Rosa Catharina Johanna Carstensen. [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9] Carson, Rose Werner. aka[10] Found multiple versions of name. Using Rosa Catharina Johanna Carstensen.

Born 06 JUN 1853. Hamburg, German Confederation (1814 - 1866), North German Confederation (1866–71), German Empire (1871–1918), self-ruling during Weimar Republic (1919–33), Nazi Germany and the Third Reich (Drittes Reich 1933 - 1945), British-occupied 1945 - 1949, officia. Note: #N59. [11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24]

Residence 1460.5 Ave, Sunset District No. 5. 1876 San Francisco, San Francisco, California, USA. Note: #N61. [25] Age: 46; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Wife. 09 APR 1900. San Francisco, San Francisco, California, USA. [26] the Great Earthquake. 18 APR 1906. San Francisco, San Francisco, California, USA. Note: #N65. age 17. 28 AUG 1870. Hoboken, Hudson, New Jersey, USA. [27] Marital Status: ledig. Altona, Holstein. [28] 1460.5 Ave, Sunset District No. 5. 30 APR 1910. San Francisco, San Francisco, California, USA. [29]

Event: S.S. Allemania; three masted steamship, via Havre, France. Arrival 10 DEC 1869. New York, USA. Note: #N62. [30][31][32][33] S.S. Allemania; three masted steamship; res Altona, Holstein, single. Departure 24 NOV 1869. Hamburg, Germany. Note: #N63. [34][35] Age: 16. Arrival 1869[36]

Buried Olivet Memorial Cemetery. 11 FEB 1911. Colma, San Mateo, California, USA. Note: #N64. [37][38]

Occupation: 518 Union; fancy goods; Ahlborn House-business; chambermaid. BET 1889 AND 1890. San Francisco, San Francisco, California, USA. [39][40]

Note: #N66.

Marriage Husband Anton Moritz Werner. Wife Rosa Catharina Johanna Carstensen. Child: William Louis Werner. Child: Charles Leslie Werner. Child: Amanda C. Werner. Child: Dora Marie Werner. Child: Adolph G. Werner. Child: Anton Werner. Marriage Anton age 26 and Rosa age 19 years. 28 JAN 1872. Hoboken, Hudson, New Jersey, USA. Note: #N372. [41][42][43]

Notes

Note N59Birth in the town of Hamburg is obtained from the 1930 census for daughter, Amanda Werner Brant.

Note N611876 ~ Rosa; 1460.5 Avenue, Sunset District #5, San Francisco; lived there one year and six months.

Reside in California 35 years at time of death in 1911.

Note N62View Source OnlineRosa appears to have traveled alone or with friends. I don't see any family members accompanying her to America.

Note N63There are two locations of Altona, Holstein in Germany. One is located near Lübeck, NE of Hamburg and close to the Baltic Sea. The other is located North of Hamburg near Flensburg, near the border of Denmark. At this point I do not know the exact location where the Carstensen family are from.

Note N64Mt. Olivet Memorial Park, Colma, San Mateo, California. see Werners in Sycamore Plot. 1

Find-a-grave memorial: 82821138.

Rosa-unmarked grave, No. 42, Myrtle Garden section. 1

Rosa Carstensen Werner.

Birth: Jul. 6, 1853.

Death: Feb. 8, 1911.

San Francisco. Francisco County.

California, USA. 1

Spouse: Antone Werner (1845 - 1915). 1

Children:

Amanda C Werner Brant (1874 - 1937)*.

Adolph Werner (1874 - 1908)*.

Anthony Werner (1879 - 1912)*.

Charles Werner. 1

Note: Grave no. 42 in Myrtle Garden Section, no subsection, unmarked grave. 1

Burial: Olivet Memorial Park Colma.

San Mateo County.

California, USA. 1

Created by: Susan Powell Rose.

Record added: Jan 01, 2012.

Find A Grave Memorial# 82821138. 1

Note N65Granddaughter, Helen Maass Wolff later said " Rosa was never the same after the San Francisco fire of 1906 when she lost her sons." I have not been able to find out any more about the statement. Aunt Helen also said they brought some sons with them from Germany. That is still a mystery since they were married in Hoboken, New Jersey. In 1900 census Rosa states she had 11 children, 6 living at that time. By 1910 census she states to have had 11 children with 5 living in 1910. Adolph died 15 Nov 1908. More mysteries to unravel. 1

In 1900 the family lived at 1018 Pacific Street in San Francisco. As told by Grandma Thomas (AKA Dora Werner, Mrs. August Henry Maass), she said, " Mother (Helena) never fully recovered after she lost three sons in the fire and earthquake of 1906. She was never the same after that. The family lived in the heart of San Francisco. In fact their grocery store was at 2200 Powell Street.". 1

The quake was between 7.7 and 7.9 on the Richter Scale. The next great earthquake expected in San Francisco in 2032.

Note N66. 1

Sources

  1. Source: #S522 Year: 1900; Census Place: San Francisco, San Francisco, California; Roll: 106; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 0253; FHL microfilm: 1240106 Record for Anton Werner Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&h=6469526&indiv=try
  2. Source: #S442
  3. Source: #S21 Database online. Year: 1910; Census Place: San Francisco Assembly District 39, San Francisco, California; Roll T624_100: ; Page: ; Enumeration District: 0233; Image 22: . Record for Anton Werner; Rosie, Charles, Dora: family no. 274. Note: John S. Brant family were neighbors (Rosalind, Ruth and John S. Jr.).
  4. Source: #S670 Staatsarchiv Hamburg; Hamburg, Deutschland; Hamburger Passagierlisten; Microfilm No.: K_1715 Record for Rosa Carstensen Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=HamburgPL_full&h=5264992&indiv=try
  5. Source: #S90 Batch M02510-6; system origin: New Jersey-EASy; source film no.: 494150; reference no. Pg 335 N41. Marriage record for Anton Moritz Werner and Rosa Carstensen.
  6. Source: #S496 Year: 1870; Census Place: Hoboken Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey; Roll: M593_864; Page: 55B; Image: 115; Family History Library Film: 552363 Record for Rosa Carstensen Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&h=25577611&indiv=try
  7. Source: #S231 Record for Rose Werner Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=cadeathrecs&h=1912166&indiv=try
  8. Source: #S10 Database online. Year: 1870; Census Place: Hoboken Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey; Roll: M593_; Page: ; Image: . Record for Rosa Carstensen 17, Mary Cartense 50 and Albert Carstensen 20.
  9. Source: #S517 Database online. Year: 1869; Arrival: New York, United States; Microfilm serial: M237; Microfilm roll: M237_322; Line: 36; List number: 1372. Record for Rosa Carstensen
  10. Source: #S231 Record for Rose Werner Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=cadeathrecs&h=1912166&indiv=try
  11. Source: #S232
  12. Source: #S13
  13. Source: #S522 Year: 1900; Census Place: San Francisco, San Francisco, California; Roll: 106; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 0253; FHL microfilm: 1240106 Record for Antoni Weaver Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&h=6469526&indiv=try
  14. Source: #S442
  15. Source: #S268 Tall file cabinet; Rose drawer; Antone Werner file.
  16. Source: #S21 Database online. Year: 1910; Census Place: San Francisco Assembly District 39, San Francisco, California; Roll T624_100: ; Page: ; Enumeration District: 0233; Image 22: . Record for Anton Werner; Rosie, Charles, Dora: family no. 274. Note: John S. Brant family were neighbors (Rosalind, Ruth and John S. Jr.).
  17. Source: #S670 Staatsarchiv Hamburg; Hamburg, Deutschland; Hamburger Passagierlisten; Microfilm No.: K_1715 Record for Rosa Carstensen Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=HamburgPL_full&h=5264992&indiv=try
  18. Source: #S74 Tall file cabinet; Rose drawer; Antone Werner file.
  19. Source: #S496 Year: 1870; Census Place: Hoboken Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey; Roll: M593_864; Page: 55B; Image: 115; Family History Library Film: 552363 Record for Rosa Carstensen Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1870usfedcen&h=25577611&indiv=try
  20. Source: #S231 Record for Rose Werner Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=cadeathrecs&h=1912166&indiv=try
  21. Source: #S245 Record book: Vol. 11, p. 1-398, 1910-1911 FHL Folder 4184290, Image No.: 00231 Record for Rose Werner NOTEFuneral Home: J. S. Godeau Funeral Records, San Francisco, San Francisco , California. Obituary is included. Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FS1CASFAreaFuneralHomeRecs&h=91575&indiv=try
  22. Source: #S17 Database online. Year: 1870; Census Place: Windsor, Kennebec, Maine; Roll: M593_; Page: ; Image: . Record for Charles Doe 83: Otis 59; Mary 60.
  23. Source: #S10 Database online. Year: 1870; Census Place: Hoboken Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey; Roll: M593_; Page: ; Image: . Record for Rosa Carstensen 17, Mary Cartense 50 and Albert Carstensen 20.
  24. Source: #S517 Database online. Year: 1869; Arrival: New York, United States; Microfilm serial: M237; Microfilm roll: M237_322; Line: 36; List number: 1372. Record for Rosa Carstensen
  25. Source: #S670 Staatsarchiv Hamburg; Hamburg, Deutschland; Hamburger Passagierlisten; Microfilm No.: K_1715 Record for Rosa Carstensen Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=HamburgPL_full&h=5264992&indiv=try
  26. Source: #S522 Year: 1900; Census Place: San Francisco, San Francisco, California; Roll: 106; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 0253; FHL microfilm: 1240106 Record for Antoni Weaver Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&h=6469526&indiv=try
  27. Source: #S10 Database online. Year: 1870; Census Place: Hoboken Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey; Roll: M593_; Page: ; Image: . Record for Rosa Carstensen 17, Mary Cartense 50 and Albert Carstensen 20.
  28. Source: #S670 Staatsarchiv Hamburg; Hamburg, Deutschland; Hamburger Passagierlisten; Microfilm No.: K_1715 Record for Rosa Carstensen Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=HamburgPL_full&h=5264992&indiv=try
  29. Source: #S21 Database online. Year: 1910; Census Place: San Francisco Assembly District 39, San Francisco, California; Roll T624_100: ; Page: ; Enumeration District: 0233; Image 22: . Record for Anton Werner; Rosie, Charles, Dora: family no. 274. Note: John S. Brant family were neighbors (Rosalind, Ruth and John S. Jr.).
  30. Source: #S21 Database online. Year: 1910; Census Place: San Francisco Assembly District 39, San Francisco, California; Roll T624_100: ; Page: ; Enumeration District: 0233; Image 22: . Record for Anton Werner; Rosie, Charles, Dora: family no. 274. Note: John S. Brant family were neighbors (Rosalind, Ruth and John S. Jr.).
  31. Source: #S670 Staatsarchiv Hamburg; Hamburg, Deutschland; Hamburger Passagierlisten; Microfilm No.: K_1715 Record for Rosa Carstensen Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=HamburgPL_full&h=5264992&indiv=try
  32. Source: #S17 Database online. Year: 1870; Census Place: Windsor, Kennebec, Maine; Roll: M593_; Page: ; Image: . Record for Charles Doe 83: Otis 59; Mary 60.
  33. Source: #S517 Database online. Year: 1869; Arrival: New York, United States; Microfilm serial: M237; Microfilm roll: M237_322; Line: 36; List number: 1372. Record for Rosa Carstensen
  34. Source: #S670 Staatsarchiv Hamburg; Hamburg, Deutschland; Hamburger Passagierlisten; Microfilm No.: K_1715 Record for Rosa Carstensen Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=HamburgPL_full&h=5264992&indiv=try
  35. Source: #S517 Database online. Year: 1869; Arrival: New York, United States; Microfilm serial: M237; Microfilm roll: M237_322; Line: 36; List number: 1372. Record for Rosa Carstensen
  36. Source: #S522 Year: 1900; Census Place: San Francisco, San Francisco, California; Roll: 106; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 0253; FHL microfilm: 1240106 Record for Antoni Weaver Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&h=6469526&indiv=try
  37. Source: #S442
  38. Source: #S245 Record book: Vol. 11, p. 1-398, 1910-1911 FHL Folder 4184290, Image No.: 00231 Record for Rose Werner NOTEFuneral Home: J. S. Godeau Funeral Records, San Francisco, San Francisco , California. Obituary is included. Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FS1CASFAreaFuneralHomeRecs&h=91575&indiv=try
  39. Source: #S72 San Francisco Directories, 1889-91 (database online) Reccord for Anton Werner, Rose Werner, Charles Werner, William Werner
  40. Source: #S72 San Francisco Directories, 1889-91 (database online) Reccord for Anton Werner, Rose Werner, Charles Werner, William Werner
  41. Source: #S522 Year: 1900; Census Place: San Francisco, San Francisco, California; Roll: 106; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 0253; FHL microfilm: 1240106 Record for Antoni Weaver Link: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1900usfedcen&h=6469526&indiv=try
  42. Source: #S21 Database online. Year: 1910; Census Place: San Francisco Assembly District 39, San Francisco, California; Roll T624_100: ; Page: ; Enumeration District: 0233; Image 22: . Record for Anton Werner; Rosie, Charles, Dora: family no. 274. Note: John S. Brant family were neighbors (Rosalind, Ruth and John S. Jr.).
  43. Source: #S90 Batch M02510-6; system origin: New Jersey-EASy; source film no.: 494150; reference no. Pg 335 N41. Marriage record for Anton Moritz Werner and Rosa Carstensen.
  • Source: S10 Ancestry.com 1870 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2009; Repository: #R4
  • Repository: R4 www.ancestry.com
  • Source: S13 Lauren Thursby email Publication: Location: lissel3@yahoo.com; Date: 16 Jun 2010;
  • Source: S17 Ancestry.com 1900 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004; Repository: #R4 NOTEUnited States of America, Bureau of the Census, Twelfth Census of the United States, 1900, Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1900
  • Source: S21 Ancestry.com 1910 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006; Repository: #R4
  • Source: S231 Ancestry.com California, Death Index, 1905-1939 Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2013; Repository: #R13 NOTECalifornia Department of Health and Welfare. California Vital Records-Vitalsearch (<a href='http://www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com'>www.vitalsearch-worldwide.com</a>). The Vitalsearch Company Worldwide, Inc., Pleasanton, California.
  • Repository: R13 Ancestry.com
  • Source: S232 Ancestry.com California, Death Index, 1905-1939 Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2013; Repository: #R13
  • Source: S245 Ancestry.com San Francisco Area, California, Funeral Home Records, 1850-1931 Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2014; Repository: #R13 NOTE<i>California, San Francisco Area Funeral Home Records, 1835-1931</i>. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.
  • Source: S268 Maass, Bernice A, compiler von Werner Family Repository: #R27 NOTEPrivately held by Susan Rose, Port Angeles, Washiington, USA.
  • Repository: R27 Rose Family File
  • Source: S442 Ancestry.com U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2012; Repository: #R13
  • Source: S496 Ancestry.com 1870 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2009; Repository: #R13 NOTE<ul><li>1870 U.S. census, population schedules. NARA microfilm publication M593, 1,761 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.</li><li>Minnesota census schedules for 1870. NARA microfilm publication T132, 13 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.</li></ul>
  • Source: S517 Ancestry.com New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010; Repository: #R13
  • Source: S522 Ancestry.com 1900 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004; Repository: #R13 NOTEUnited States of America, Bureau of the Census. <i>Twelfth Census of the United States, 1900</i>. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1900. T623, 1854 rolls.
  • Source: S670 Staatsarchiv Hamburg Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934 Publication: Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2008; Repository: #R36 NOTEStaatsarchiv Hamburg, Bestand: 373-7 I, VIII (Auswanderungsamt I). Mikrofilmrollen K 1701 - K 2008, S 17363 - S 17383, 13116 - 13183.
  • Repository: R36 Ancestry.com
  • Source: S72 San Francisco, CA 1889-91
  • Source: S74 von Werner Family, ? ?, Compiler, Port Angeles, Washiington, USA NOTEvon Werner Family.  ? ?, compiler. abstract, ?. Privately held by Susan Rose, Port Angeles, Washiington, USA.
  • Source: S90 New Jersey Marriages, 1678-1985 Publication: Name: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; Location: Salt Lake City, Utah, USA; Date: 2011 IRI; Repository: #R11 Call Number: http://www.familsearch.org/search/records/index NOTEFrom NJ State Archives, PO Box 307, 225 W State St, Trenton NJ 08625 Vol Bk, p. 335, 28 January 1872 Return of Marriages in Hoboken, Hudson, NJ, 1 May, 1871-1872.
  • Repository: R11 Family Search




Is Rosa Catharina Johanna your ancestor? Please don't go away!
 star icon Login to collaborate or comment, or
 star icon contact private message the profile manager, or
 star icon ask our community of genealogists a question.
Sponsored Search by Ancestry.com

DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Rosa Catharina Johanna by comparing test results with other carriers of her mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known mtDNA test-takers in her direct maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Rosa Catharina Johanna:

Have you taken a DNA test? If so, login to add it. If not, see our friends at Ancestry DNA.



Comments

Leave a message for others who see this profile.
There are no comments yet.
Login to post a comment.

C  >  Carstensen  >  Rosa Catharina Johanna Carstensen